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Topic: Why are there happy drunks and mean drunks?
Posted By: tatee
Subject: Why are there happy drunks and mean drunks?
Date Posted: Jun 13 2014 at 2:14pm
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Why do people respond so differently to the same drugs?

Maureen Dowd, a 62-year-old Pulitzer Prize–winning columnist for the New York Times, had a http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/04/opinion/dowd-dont-harsh-our-mellow-dude.html?_r=1" rel="nofollow - bad marijuana trip earlier this year. As part of her research into the legalization of recreational cannabis in Colorado, she ate a few too many bites of a pot-infused candy bar, entered a “hallucinatory state,” and spent eight paranoid hours curled up on her hotel room bed. Dowd used the experience as a jumping-off point to discuss the risks of overdosing on edible marijuana, which has become a http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/altered_state/2014/06/marijuana_edibles_how_did_weed_brownies_become_the_marijuana_industry_s.html" rel="nofollow - major issue in pot-friendly states . It’s also possible, however, that Dowd just doesn’t handle cannabis very well. While pot mellows most people out, everyone has heard of someone who barricaded himself or herself in a dorm room after a few bongs hits in college. (Or maybe that someone is you.) Why do people react so differently to the same drug?

The question itself may be something of a fallacy. Cannabis is not a single drug—it contains dozens of compounds, and they appear to have varying, and sometimes opposing, effects on the brain. Tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, and cannabidiol, or CBD, have been the subject of some intriguing research. In 2010, researchers showed that http://www.nature.com/npp/journal/v35/n3/abs/npp2009184a.html" rel="nofollow - pretreating people with a dose of CBD can protect against the http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1079888/" rel="nofollow - less pleasant effects of THC , such as paranoia. In a similar http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22213786" rel="nofollow - 2012 study , participants took pills that contained only one of the two chemicals, rather than the combination that you receive in cannabis. The subjects who took THC pills were more likely to suffer paranoia and delusion than those who took CBD.

The researchers went one step further to investigate which specific cognitive effects of THC are likely to lead to paranoia and other symptoms of psychosis. After taking either THC or CBD, participants watched a series of arrows appear on a screen and responded by indicating which direction the arrows were pointing. Most of the arrows pointed directly left or right, but occasionally a tilted arrow appeared. (Researchers called the tilted arrows “oddballs.”) Subjects who took the CBD had a heightened brain activity response to the oddballs. That’s the way a nondrugged person typically reacts—repetitions of the same stimulus don’t interest us, but a sudden change grabs our attention. The THC-takers had an abnormal response: They found the left and right arrows, which constituted the overwhelming majority of the images, more noteworthy than the oddballs. The researchers’ interpretation is that THC may undermine our ability to ignore routine, unimportant stimuli. Ignoring the ordinary is an important skill—we can’t function if every chirping bird or billboard grabs our attention and refuses to let go. Focusing obsessively on every meaningless detail in the environment may contribute to the paranoia that some pot users experience.

The differing effects of THC and CBD partially explain why some marijuana strains—which differ in the ratios and amounts of THC and CBD—are believed to provide giddy, excited highs, while others are thought to mellow the user, regardless of one’s personal neurological peculiarities.

Although both THC and CBD are present in marijuana, your brain may be more receptive to one of the chemicals than the other. Maureen Dowd’s brain may have a strong affinity for THC, while the mellower smokers may take up CBD more efficiently.

There is probably also a psychological element in addition to the neurochemical explanation. Consider the effects of alcohol. There are mean drunks, loud drunks, amorous drunks, withdrawn drunks, teary drunks, and many more kinds. There are no differences in the drug itself—unlike cannabis, alcohol has only one psychoactive substance—so there has to be another explanation.

There are scads of studies exploring the diverse effects of alcohol, much of it focusing on variations in alcohol-related aggression, but none of the studies are entirely satisfying. Psychological research rarely is. (That’s not a knock on psychologists or psychiatrists—it’s just a very tricky field.)

One theory is that some people don’t care very much about the consequences of their actions, even when they’re sober. When these people drink, they get aggressive, and their lack of foresight means they don’t bother to check their mean-drunk impulses. In a 2012 study, researchers at Ohio State showed that people who ignored consequences when sober got really excited about http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3357898/" rel="nofollow - shocking their opponents in a drunken reflex competition. The study was widely publicized, but shocking a person in a laboratory setting is vastly different from punching someone in a bar. The legacy of the infamous http://www.cnr.berkeley.edu/ucce50/ag-labor/7article/article35.htm" rel="nofollow - Milgram experiment is also relevant—anyone participating in a psych experiment allegedly involving shocking other participants may well know it’s just pretend. Several other personality characteristics, such as http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22452787" rel="nofollow - anxiety levels , have been suggested as explanations for how people behave when intoxicated. Most of these studies are based on laboratory scenarios that don’t mimic well the drinking experiences you get in the wild.

There may a genetic basis for differing responses to alcohol. In a http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20688132" rel="nofollow - 2010 twin study , researchers attributed one-third of the variation in alcohol-induced aggression levels to genetic factors. The research was based on self-reporting, though, and the ability to estimate our own anger and aggression levels isn’t necessarily consistent from person to person.

Although the research hasn’t settled on simple explanations, it’s clear that some combination of personality traits, genetics, and experience affects how people respond to intoxicants. You can’t blame it all on the drug. Maureen Dowd’s rough night in Denver had something to do with the amount and kind of dope she consumed, as well as her own reaction to certain psychoactive chemicals. But her psychological makeup also likely played a role. I can think of a http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/28/opinion/sunday/dowd-time-to-hard-delete-carlos-danger.html?ref=maureendowd&_r=0" rel="nofollow - few people who might accuse her of an inability to http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/04/08/ny-times-dowd-tries-to-whitewash-her-awful-hill/193528" rel="nofollow - consider the consequences of her actions.


http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2014/06/maureen_dowd_gets_paranoid_on_pot_why_do_alcohol_and_marijuana_make_some.html




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Posted By: tatee
Date Posted: Jun 13 2014 at 2:19pm
im actually pissed i read that entire article just to find out its because people are differentLOL


Posted By: Gkisses
Date Posted: Jun 13 2014 at 2:25pm
Lol^^^^


it's funny that my sister mom and myself are all happy drunk but my dad and my brothers are all mellow when drunk.


Ive also held conversations in Spanish when drunk...lol dunno


Posted By: mizzsandra00
Date Posted: Jun 13 2014 at 2:26pm



Posted By: tatee
Date Posted: Jun 13 2014 at 2:28pm
i had an ex who was an angry drunk.  it was so weird.  she never believed me when i told her she had issues and probably should never drink.


Posted By: iliveforbhm
Date Posted: Jun 13 2014 at 2:36pm
It's because inhibitors are gone and people allow things they think but don't act on much more. Me I'm the same.


Posted By: rickysrose
Date Posted: Jun 13 2014 at 2:47pm
yeah I was going to say when filters are turned off

You get realness, some are real mean, some are real happy




Posted By: rickysrose
Date Posted: Jun 13 2014 at 2:49pm
i just fall asleep, don't know what that says about me lol

But that's why I dont bother with much of anything plus I like to know what's happening 


Posted By: Katrenia
Date Posted: Jun 13 2014 at 2:53pm
Alcohol lowers those inhibitions and let your true personality (you know, the one we hide) shine through.
That's why I had to stop drinking. Evil Smile


Posted By: eanaj5
Date Posted: Jun 13 2014 at 2:53pm
i guess im a giggly good time till i fall asleep 5 mins later Cool


Posted By: Bored w/Out Me?
Date Posted: Jun 13 2014 at 3:10pm
Happy drunks are the beginners


Posted By: petiteone29
Date Posted: Jun 13 2014 at 3:23pm
Yeah I can't stand evil drunks, emotional drunks, touchy feely drunks or drunks who all of a sudden grow some balls and want to buck on everyone. I'm a happy somewhat mellow drinker. I don't get pissy drunk. But even times when I did I was just happy and funny. 


Posted By: thewonderfulwa
Date Posted: Jun 13 2014 at 4:00pm
OMG this is a pet peeve of mine is a angry miserable drunk they need to drink alone in the comfort of their home.


Posted By: tatee
Date Posted: Jun 13 2014 at 4:00pm
Originally posted by thewonderfulwa thewonderfulwa wrote:

OMG this is a pet peeve of mine is a angry miserable drunk they need to drink alone in the comfort of their home.


you just made me think of something.  are angry drunks angry when they drink alone or is it just when they are around people?


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Jun 13 2014 at 4:06pm
I oscillate between happy/boisterous and mellow drunk. I guess it depends on my needs at the time.


Posted By: thewonderfulwa
Date Posted: Jun 13 2014 at 4:08pm
Originally posted by tatee tatee wrote:

Originally posted by thewonderfulwa thewonderfulwa wrote:

OMG this is a pet peeve of mine is a angry miserable drunk they need to drink alone in the comfort of their home.


you just made me think of something.  are angry drunks angry when they drink alone or is it just when they are around people?
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I think they're angry even when they're alone probably argue with the TV.
My old landlord was like that he use to look out the window and open his door looking for someone to flip on.


Posted By: tatee
Date Posted: Jun 13 2014 at 4:08pm
Originally posted by thewonderfulwa thewonderfulwa wrote:

Originally posted by tatee tatee wrote:

Originally posted by thewonderfulwa thewonderfulwa wrote:

OMG this is a pet peeve of mine is a angry miserable drunk they need to drink alone in the comfort of their home.


you just made me think of something.  are angry drunks angry when they drink alone or is it just when they are around people?
'

I think they're angry even when they're alone probably argue with the TV.
My old landlord was like that he use to look out the window and open his door looking for someone to flip on.

LOL


Posted By: SoutherNtellect
Date Posted: Jun 13 2014 at 4:25pm
depends on whats going on in your cns?


Posted By: petiteone29
Date Posted: Jun 13 2014 at 4:36pm
I remember I went out with this girl and she got drunk and went through 20 different emotions before the night was over. We almost got into a fight at the club because of her crazy behavior. 


Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Jun 13 2014 at 5:51pm
Originally posted by petiteone29 petiteone29 wrote:

Yeah I can't stand evil drunks, emotional drunks, touchy feely drunks or drunks who all of a sudden grow some balls and want to buck on everyone. I'm a happy somewhat mellow drinker. I don't get pissy drunk. But even times when I did I was just happy and funny. 
They & the angry drunk are my party entertainment. I ain't proud of it but it is what it is.Disapprove


Posted By: Benni
Date Posted: Jun 13 2014 at 7:11pm
Liquid courage brings out suppressed emotions


Posted By: hauteshellbi
Date Posted: Jun 13 2014 at 7:44pm
I'm a sleepy drunk so I never ever ever drink at the club...actually I only drink in restaurants and that's with a big meal, I usually have 2 drinks and bring my ass straight to sleep


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Jun 13 2014 at 7:54pm
I'm a touchy feely drunk and very happy.

I can't drink with sad/mad drunks.
Bish don't blow my high


Posted By: Mamacita
Date Posted: Jun 13 2014 at 8:29pm
I'm the drunk who wants to get on the table and dance or take over the dancefloor. Everything seems funny too and i turn into this huge flirt.


Posted By: Benni
Date Posted: Jun 13 2014 at 8:47pm
This Thread reminds me of Raj on Big Bang Theory.

He can only speak to women after a drink, then he also becomes obnoxious as heck.

Otherwise he is very subdued and mild mannered


Posted By: noneyons
Date Posted: Jun 13 2014 at 9:10pm
i drink to relax. aint no way i'd waste my buzz on being angry. 


Posted By: iliveforbhm
Date Posted: Jun 13 2014 at 9:23pm


Posted By: sweet_n_stuff04
Date Posted: Jun 14 2014 at 4:43am
When I'm drunk, my emotions depend on the atmosphere and who is around. If we're at the club and I'm around friends, I'm crazy (in a fun way). If it's a house party, I get sleepy. If I'm around a guy I like, I get in my feelings -_- (emotional).


Posted By: newin2009
Date Posted: Jun 14 2014 at 5:33am
I'm happy and mellow, then I get sleepy


Posted By: BBpants
Date Posted: Jun 14 2014 at 11:42am
I hate bitter ass drunks. Go sit in the corner with that bullsh*t.



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