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Topic: 60 days. All he got was 60 days.
Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Subject: 60 days. All he got was 60 days.
Date Posted: May 21 2014 at 11:34pm
That muthafucca kills his 13 year old daughter because she didn't mop the floor to his liking and he gets 60 days. At times like these, I really really hate it here and envy the american judicial system

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MONTREAL
– From the opening sentence of his decision, Quebec Court Judge Richard
Marleau acknowledged he had a difficult task in sentencing an elderly
man for killing his teenage daughter with a slap.

"What sentence
should be imposed on the father of a family, with no criminal record,
who slaps his 13-year-old daughter and who, against all expectation,
causes her death?"

When Marleau reached the end of his 17-page
decision Wednesday morning at the Longueuil courthouse, Moussa Sidime,
74, a retired architect originally from Guinea, was left with a 60-day
prison term for killing his 13-year-old daughter, Noutène. During a
sentence hearing in February, the prosecution suggested a prison term of
two years less a day would be appropriate, while defence lawyer Marie
Josée Duhaime sought a suspended sentence. Marleau allowed for Sidime to
serve his sentence in a discontinuous fashion. Beginning next week, he
is expected to report to a detention centre and serve the sentence every
Monday and Tuesday. The prison term will be followed by two years of
probation.

On Oct. 6, 2010, Sidime slapped his daughter after she
mumbled something under her breath when he told her he wasn't satisfied
with how she had cleaned up the kitchen. According to evidence filed
into the court record when Sidime pleaded guilty to manslaughter last
year, the father noticed his daughter was crying but returned to the
living room in the family's apartment to sit down. He then heard Noutène
fall to the kitchen floor and returned to find her unconscious and
barely breathing.

Noutène was taken to a hospital where she died
two days later. The cause of her death was later attributed to a
ruptured artery in her head caused by a sudden turn of her head, either
by the slap itself or from turning her head away in a reaction to it.

When
sentencing arguments were made earlier this year, Duhaime characterized
what her client did as "a simple slap" that didn't leave a visible mark
on Noutène's face. But Marleau, referring to a recent Supreme Court of
Canada decision about child abuse, disagreed: "In reality it is an
assault."

As Marleau read from his sentence, Sidime was seated,
his hands clasped together resting on his lap. Two dozen of Sidime's
relatives and friends sat behind him. One of his adult daughters later
said her father prayed while Marleau read.

The judge noted that a
2010 decision by the Supreme Court of Canada gives judges "vast
discretionary power" in determining a sentence in a manslaughter case.
That discretion is allowed because manslaughter convictions can involve
different circumstances. He also referred to a recent study of sentences
involving homicides where parents killed their children in which the
authors recognized the possibility "of sentences ranging from a
suspended sentence to four years of imprisonment" in cases that involve
many mitigating factors.

He also said that past cases cited as
jurisprudence when sentence arguments were made involved child abuse but
not manslaughter. In those cases, the offenders received prison
sentences, between 17 and 21 months for physically abusing their young
children and there were many aggravating circumstances behind each,
including sexual abuse.


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Replies:
Posted By: Alias_Avi
Date Posted: May 21 2014 at 11:36pm
...but according to the Solange attacks JayZ thread... there are times when a man ought to hit a woman Stern Smile


Posted By: liesnalibis
Date Posted: May 21 2014 at 11:39pm
He had no business slapping her in the face in the first place.


Posted By: miana79
Date Posted: May 21 2014 at 11:44pm
They are looking at intent..he is dead wrong for slappy that poor child and thats abuse but he didnt expect her to die from a slap in the face.


Posted By: Benni
Date Posted: May 21 2014 at 11:46pm
Well, it is something he will have to live with for the rest of his life, whether in prison or out.

That slap to the face must have been so hard, I just cannot imagine.

That's a lot of anger.

I do believe in a swat on the bum for kids, all other body parts are off limits...Always.



Posted By: Gkisses
Date Posted: May 21 2014 at 11:49pm
Originally posted by Alias_Avi Alias_Avi wrote:

...but according to the Solange attacks JayZ thread... there are times when a man ought to hit a woman Stern Smile


You're comparing apples and socket wrenches.


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: May 21 2014 at 11:51pm
Originally posted by miana79 miana79 wrote:

They are looking at intent..he is dead wrong for slappy that poor child and thats abuse but he didnt expect her to die from a slap in the face.


The verdict is sickening. HOW HARD DID HE STRIKE THAT GIRL THAT SHE ENDED UP DEAD? And him claiming it was the first time he hit her? Utter bullshyt. She was 13 years old. These kinds of bullshyt sentences are doled out every day in Montreal. I'm so sick of this bullshyt system.


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: May 21 2014 at 11:52pm
Originally posted by Alias_Avi Alias_Avi wrote:

...but according to the Solange attacks JayZ thread... there are times when a man ought to hit a woman Stern Smile


Gurl...


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: May 21 2014 at 11:55pm
Nouténé Sidimé, 13 ans, est morte quelques jours après avoir été giflée par son père.


Posted By: Alias_Avi
Date Posted: May 21 2014 at 11:55pm
No, I'm not.

Death is always a possibility when a man lays his hands on a woman, even if the reason is "justified" or completely unjust

The strength of men can kill, even with a "simple slap"... it will always be a possibility.

Originally posted by Gkisses Gkisses wrote:

Originally posted by Alias_Avi Alias_Avi wrote:

...but according to the Solange attacks JayZ thread... there are times when a man ought to hit a woman Stern Smile

You're comparing apples and socket wrenches.


Posted By: Alias_Avi
Date Posted: May 21 2014 at 11:57pm
Look, I'm just playing devil's advocate here

Obviously, what this father did was awful and his sentence was ridiculous. But this article instantly reminded me of the argument that yall had regarding men laying hands on women (vicious or innocent).

Didn't a man kill a woman with one punch because she took his parking spot or am I making this up?

Anyhow, this is yet another pointless tragedy


Posted By: Immie89
Date Posted: May 21 2014 at 11:58pm
There's guys in jail for weed longer than that.


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: May 22 2014 at 12:00am
Originally posted by Alias_Avi Alias_Avi wrote:

No, I'm not.

Death is always a possibility when a man lays his hands on a woman, even if the reason is "justified" or completely unjust

The strength of men can kill, even with a "simple slap"... it will always be a possibility.

Originally posted by Gkisses Gkisses wrote:

Originally posted by Alias_Avi Alias_Avi wrote:

...but according to the Solange attacks JayZ thread... there are times when a man ought to hit a woman Stern Smile

You're comparing apples and socket wrenches.


Indeed (in response to Alias). And in this case, we're talking about a 71 year old man!
I hated the way the entire extended family rallied around him on the news, calling him the "building block" of the family, the patriarch, etc... He even had another grown daughter who flew in from the States to say it was just a "freak accident".


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: May 22 2014 at 12:01am
Originally posted by Immie89 Immie89 wrote:

There's guys in jail for weed longer than that.


Oh, and I forgot this gem: He gets to serve his 60 days in jail on weekends only! It's not concurrent!


Posted By: Benni
Date Posted: May 22 2014 at 12:01am
Originally posted by Immie89 Immie89 wrote:

There's guys in jail for weed longer than that.



True.

Makes you wonder what 'Justice' really means


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: May 22 2014 at 12:03am
Originally posted by Benni Benni wrote:

Originally posted by Immie89 Immie89 wrote:

There's guys in jail for weed longer than that.



True.

Makes you wonder what 'Justice' really means


It doesn't mean a damn thing in Quebec. Not a damn thing. Especially if you have the slightest bit of status (he's a retired university professor). Fuccin idiots.

But considering that cardiologist who stabbed his 2 kids 22 times because his wife was having and affair and he got away with it, I don't know why I'm not numb to these things at this point...


Posted By: Wynter
Date Posted: May 22 2014 at 12:09am
Sometimes people can only see black or white, never grey. This man had no intention of killing his daughter. Yes, its sad her young life was taken. What sentence would you be happy with?

Btw, if he were my brother or other close relative, I would rally behind him also. **shrug**


Posted By: newdiva1
Date Posted: May 22 2014 at 12:14am
Welp.  I hope his conscious eats him alive.


Posted By: Benni
Date Posted: May 22 2014 at 12:33am
What's to stop him from doing it again


Posted By: f8dagrate
Date Posted: May 22 2014 at 2:40am
Originally posted by Wynter Wynter wrote:

Sometimes people can only see black or white, never grey. This man had no intention of killing his daughter. Yes, its sad her young life was taken. What sentence would you be happy with?

Btw, if he were my brother or other close relative, I would rally behind him also. **shrug**



Posted By: rickysrose
Date Posted: May 22 2014 at 3:05am
what kind of slap can rupture an artery? That was more than a slap and baby girl is dead ... over a floor?  

This can't be fixed with an apology, some sort of retribution, penance or penalty has to paid and 60 days in the weekend doesn't balance out a child's life






Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: May 22 2014 at 3:09am
Originally posted by Alias_Avi Alias_Avi wrote:

No, I'm not.

Death is always a possibility when a man lays his hands on a woman, even if the reason is "justified" or completely unjust

The strength of men can kill, even with a "simple slap"... it will always be a possibility.

Originally posted by Gkisses Gkisses wrote:

Originally posted by Alias_Avi Alias_Avi wrote:

...but according to the Solange attacks JayZ thread... there are times when a man ought to hit a woman Stern Smile

You're comparing apples and socket wrenches.

death is a possibility when you put your hands in anyone full stop

Stop trying to justify one form of violence over another

People like you don't realise how much you perpetuate violence .. Even if y our intentions are well meaning

Keeping your hands to yourself should not be that hard ..

Unless you're just daft


Posted By: f8dagrate
Date Posted: May 22 2014 at 3:10am
I knew it. I seen that this man was black new he had to be highly educated/well off. He got some kind of connections.


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: May 22 2014 at 3:15am
Did I read right?
He'll report to a detention center on Mondays and Tuesdays?
That's......um.....


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: May 22 2014 at 5:48am
Originally posted by newdiva1 newdiva1 wrote:

Welp.  I hope his conscious eats him alive.
and she haunts him


Posted By: Az~Maverick
Date Posted: May 22 2014 at 5:59am
He deserves more......a WHOLE lot more than just 60 days! Geezus......Sleepy


Posted By: iliveforbhm
Date Posted: May 22 2014 at 6:50am
The Bible came and crush buildings saying honor thy mother and father and may your days be long but the opposite holds true.


There was a dude who would paid someone to punch him as a joke and a girl did and he died due to the hemorrhaging. Guess women can kill in one blow.


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: May 22 2014 at 1:17pm
lol



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