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Topic: Man Gets Life In Prison For Loaning His Car
Posted By: tatee
Subject: Man Gets Life In Prison For Loaning His Car
Date Posted: Apr 18 2014 at 6:22am

Why Is a Florida Man Facing Life in Prison For Lending a Friend His Car and Going to Sleep?

Ryan Holle, who has no prior record, is currently serving his eleventh year of a life sentence. 

http://www.thenation.com/authors/charles-grodin" rel="nofollow - Charles Grodin
March 24, 2014 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-PLKwJX9-8" rel="nofollow - commentary



Several years ago I read a piece in The New York Times by Adam Liptak about Ryan Holle. Ryan, who had no prior record, is serving a life sentence with no chance of parole in Florida. He was convicted of pre-meditated murder, even though no one, including the prosecutor, disputes that Ryan was asleep in his bed at home at the time of the crime. This could only happen in America, because we are the only country that retains the Felony Murder Rule. What the Felony Murder Rule essentially says is if anyone has anything to do with a felony in which a murder takes place, such as a robbery, that person is as guilty as the person who has committed the murder. Every other country including England, India and Canada has gotten rid of it because of its unintended consequences. In America, Michigan, Kentucky and Hawaii no longer have the law. The Canadian Supreme Court ruled, when they discarded the Felony Murder Rule, that a person should be held responsible for his own actions not the actions of others.

Exactly what did Ryan Holle do? At a party in his apartment over ten years ago, he lent his car to his roommate and went to sleep. He had lent his car to his roommate many times before with no negative consequences. This time the roommate and others went to a house where they knew a woman was selling marijuana from a safe. They planned to get the marijuana, but in the course of their break-in a teenage girl was killed. Those at the scene all received appropriately harsh sentences, but so did Ryan Holle. I got involved with the case shortly after I read Adam Liptak’s piece. I have been advocating on behalf of clemency for Ryan, who was first offered a plea deal of ten years but chose to go to trial. I’m sure it was difficult for a young man, who had never been arrested, and who believed he had done nothing to accept that he should go to prison for ten years, so he went to trial, was convicted and sentenced to life in prison with no chance of parole. He is now in his eleventh year of incarceration. Again, this is a young man who was home asleep in bed at the time of the crime. I personally know of no other felony murder conviction where the person was not even present, and the pre-meditated part of the conviction suggests that Ryan knew his car was going to be used in the course of a murder, which to me, isn’t credible. To the best of my knowledge, in the entire history of the criminal justice system in America, no one has ever been convicted and sentenced to life in prison for loaning a car and going to sleep.

A few years ago I was on a television show with the father of the girl who was murdered in the robbery attempt. The father felt that it was entirely justified that Ryan Holle spend his life in prison. At the time, I couldn’t bring myself to say what I was feeling. I felt the father and mother were a lot more responsible for their daughter’s death than Ryan Holle. The mother did actually serve three years in prison for selling drugs, but both parents in no way should have been involved in selling drugs from their house. It would only be a question of time before the wrong person knocked on the door. In my judgment, parents who would do that with two teenage daughters at home have a lot more responsibility for this tragedy than Ryan Holle.

Ryan writes me from prison telling me that when he gets out, he plans to speak out against the Felony Murder Rule. Unless people of good will and common sense publicize his case, Ryan Holle will die in prison. 

Note: Since writing the above, I have been told that Ryan was just denied clemency.

http://www.thenation.com/article/178984/why-florida-man-facing-life-prison-lending-out-his-car-and-going-sleep#

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Holle






Replies:
Posted By: f8dagrate
Date Posted: Apr 18 2014 at 6:34am


Posted By: bunzaveli
Date Posted: Apr 18 2014 at 6:43am
jesus fcking christ florida, the hell ?


Posted By: newdiva1
Date Posted: Apr 18 2014 at 6:43am
I saw this on TYT.  The man has been in prison 11 years already. 


Posted By: bunzaveli
Date Posted: Apr 18 2014 at 6:44am
Originally posted by newdiva1 newdiva1 wrote:

I saw this on TYT.  The man has been in prison 11 years already. 


makes you wonder how many other people are rotting in jail over b.s like this, or bullsh*t plea deals, but nobody ever reported them and you never heard of


Posted By: Lady ICE
Date Posted: Apr 18 2014 at 6:48am
seriously wtf is wrong with florida??
i may never step foot in that place again


Posted By: Ming
Date Posted: Apr 18 2014 at 6:49am
its like the guy in NYC who was in jail for 25 yrs for murder when he said he was out of state. It took 25 years to find the hotel receipt that was in his pocket when he was arrested


Posted By: MsBMW
Date Posted: Apr 18 2014 at 7:17am
Originally posted by newdiva1 newdiva1 wrote:

I saw this on TYT.  The man has been in prison 11 years already. 

Are you freaking seriousConfused


Posted By: liesnalibis
Date Posted: Apr 18 2014 at 10:36am
I read but I didn't watch because they kind of annoy me. I don't disagree with the felony murder rule but I don't understand how or why they applied it in this case, unless they think he knew what his car was going to be used for and he's just trying to play it off. On Wikipedia he said they told him but he was drunk and thought it was a joke.


Posted By: Ladycoils
Date Posted: Apr 18 2014 at 10:38am
I can't even imagine. This is what are state representative should be working on instead of wasting time being in denial about having a black President.


Posted By: ModelessDiva
Date Posted: Apr 18 2014 at 10:46am


Posted By: hauteshellbi
Date Posted: Apr 18 2014 at 10:58am
this is so sad! wow
 
but they let casey anthony and zimmerbutt off


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Apr 18 2014 at 11:00am
Mother of God. I have no words.


Posted By: Tbaby
Date Posted: Apr 18 2014 at 11:19am
When you google this it turns out that he knew his roomie was going to burglarize the dealer's home for a safe...so the prosecution had grounds--flimsy grounds--to try him as an accomplice.  It's unfair that he got life for being loosely connected by his car.Ouch


Posted By: kfoxx1998
Date Posted: Apr 18 2014 at 12:00pm
Originally posted by Ming Ming wrote:

its like the guy in NYC who was in jail for 25 yrs for murder when he said he was out of state. It took 25 years to find the hotel receipt that was in his pocket when he was arrested


This is when you know these muthaphukkas get paid to lock people up.   They should have paid big money to the victim for this sh*t right here. 


Posted By: Benni
Date Posted: Apr 18 2014 at 1:02pm
Is our Justice System so archaic

A lot of Laws just need to be revised !!


Posted By: iliveforbhm
Date Posted: Apr 18 2014 at 1:15pm
Talk to your representatives then that's what we need to all do and flood them with letters and emails. Or get in their face.


Posted By: rell85
Date Posted: Apr 18 2014 at 2:27pm
When being nice goes wrong.


Posted By: ModelessDiva
Date Posted: Apr 18 2014 at 6:59pm
Originally posted by Tbaby Tbaby wrote:

When you google this it turns out that he knew his roomie was going to burglarize the dealer's home for a safe...so the prosecution had grounds--flimsy grounds--to try him as an accomplice.  It's unfair that he got life for being loosely connected by his car.Ouch

so he did know...

still...he shouldnt get life...maybe a couple of months and a fine but not life...

i know his family is all the way pssed



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