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Posted By: indiecat
Subject: Culturally Ignorant Kobe Bryant
Date Posted: Mar 27 2014 at 5:59pm

Is this a repost?




Kobe Bryant Shares Thoughts On Miami Heat Trayvon Martin Hoodie Photo

Via ColorLines

In the March 31 edition of the New Yorker there’s a great profile of Kobe Bryant by Ben McGrath. In it, Bryant talks about aging out of his Hall of Fame career with the Los Angeles Lakers, and how he thinks his fame is “pretty cool” for a kid who grew up in Italy and moved to suburban Philly as a teenager.

Throughout his career, Bryant’s been talking about as an outsider, specifically when it comes to being the most famous in the world in a sport that’s overwhelmingly black. It’s given him a politically moderate stance on things, which was on display when McGrath brought up the subject of LeBron James posting a photo online of the Heat players dressed in hoodies in solidarity with Trayvon Martin.

I won’t react to something just because I’m supposed to, because I’m an African-American,” he said. “That argument doesn’t make any sense to me. So we want to advance as a society and a culture, but, say, if something happens to an African-American we immediately come to his defense? Yet you want to talk about how far we’ve progressed as a society? Well, we’ve progressed as a society, then don’t jump to somebody’s defense just because they’re African-American. You sit and you listen to the facts just like you would in any other situation, right? So I won’t assert myself.”

The profile goes on to quote former NFL running back Jim Brown, who at one point said, “[Kobe] is somewhat confused about culture, because he was brought up in another country.” Bryant then defended himself on Twitter, writing, “A ‘Global’ African American is an inferior shade to ‘American’ African American?? #hmmm. that doesn’t sound very #Mandela or #DrKing sir.”

Setting aside a minute the fact that Bryant doesn’t seem know much about the Trayvon Martin case, what strikes me about this exchange is his insistence on questioning what it means to be black in America, particularly from the perspective of someone who grew up elsewhere. In this vein I think of Zade Smith and Chimimanda Ngozi Adichie’s recent discussion at the Schomburg, where Adichie talked at length about coming to the United States from Nigeria and learning how deeply embedded race is in American culture. What sets Bryant apart is his stingy insistence on clinging to a “post-racial” identity, this very old, conservative notion that black people should not be treated differently in this country — despite all of the evidence, like Martin’s death, that they are. People didn’t stand up for Trayvon Martin just because he was a black boy, they did it because his death so sharply illustrated the dangers of being a black boy in America.




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Posted By: mizzsandra00
Date Posted: Mar 27 2014 at 5:59pm
Nevermind....I didn't read


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Mar 27 2014 at 6:00pm
He said Trayvon was wrongED so I'm confused.



Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Mar 27 2014 at 6:02pm
i get the issue with the text below, but in the tweets isn't he saying trayvon martin was the victim and the system failed him?  he didn't mean wronged and just can't spell?


Posted By: Marcelo22
Date Posted: Mar 27 2014 at 6:05pm
OP fuccin up. Kobe had some real coon statements in a magazine issue thats coming out. Kobe been under fire today. 


Posted By: Random Thoughts
Date Posted: Mar 27 2014 at 6:08pm
For those confused...ignore the tweets and read the bold.

Originally posted by indiecat indiecat wrote:


Is this a repost?

Kobe Bryant Shares Thoughts On Miami Heat Trayvon Martin Hoodie Photo

Via ColorLines

In the March 31 edition of the New Yorker there’s a great profile of Kobe Bryant by Ben McGrath. In it, Bryant talks about aging out of his Hall of Fame career with the Los Angeles Lakers, and how he thinks his fame is “pretty cool” for a kid who grew up in Italy and moved to suburban Philly as a teenager.

Throughout his career, Bryant’s been talking about as an outsider, specifically when it comes to being the most famous in the world in a sport that’s overwhelmingly black. It’s given him a politically moderate stance on things, which was on display when McGrath brought up the subject of LeBron James posting a photo online of the Heat players dressed in hoodies in solidarity with Trayvon Martin.

I won’t react to something just because I’m supposed to, because I’m an African-American,” he said. “That argument doesn’t make any sense to me. So we want to advance as a society and a culture, but, say, if something happens to an African-American we immediately come to his defense? Yet you want to talk about how far we’ve progressed as a society? Well, we’ve progressed as a society, then don’t jump to somebody’s defense just because they’re African-American. You sit and you listen to the facts just like you would in any other situation, right? So I won’t assert myself.”





Posted By: indiecat
Date Posted: Mar 27 2014 at 6:09pm
The tweets are from a different page

Yesterday, Kobe Bryant took a dip in scalding water when an excerpt from an interview he did with The New Yorker was released online where he made some very offensive comments in regards to the Trayvon Martin case and the “advancement” of African-Americans in his perceived “post-race” America.
Today, the heat was turned up another notch as social media pundits and peons have been hard at work firing off scathing 140-character criticisms of the injured Lakers’ baller.
The shots did not fall on deaf ears, Kobe replied to his amped-up assailants with this tweet:







http://bossip.com/938137/twitter-files-kobe-bryant-responds-to-self-hating-trayvon-martin-comments-and-suffers-slanderous-backlash-43081/


Posted By: indiecat
Date Posted: Mar 27 2014 at 6:13pm
Lol, fixed it, sorry


Posted By: aNgElIc*SoUl
Date Posted: Mar 27 2014 at 6:14pm
Originally posted by Marcelo22 Marcelo22 wrote:

OP fuccin up. Kobe had some real coon statements in a magazine issue thats coming out. Kobe been under fire today. 


Yup, I don't feel like looking for it atm. He said something along the lines of he' doesn't have to speak on tbe Trayvon situation just because he(Kobe) is black.


Posted By: tatee
Date Posted: Mar 27 2014 at 6:17pm
im still not getting this.  maybe yah trying too hard to make this something.


Posted By: Marcelo22
Date Posted: Mar 27 2014 at 6:18pm
i was actually surprised yall aint have a thread bout it on here, but yall dont follow sports like that lol


Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Mar 27 2014 at 6:27pm
no, we're just lazy.


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Mar 27 2014 at 6:28pm
I want us to advance as a culture and as a people together.
That includes not marrying ugly non-black bitches and not raping ugly white bitches.



Posted By: noneyons
Date Posted: Mar 27 2014 at 7:22pm
he's so progressive. 

sarcasm. 

and lmao @sang


Posted By: LilMissSunshine
Date Posted: Mar 27 2014 at 8:24pm
Sang has been thanked. Kobe *wrinkles nose in disgust* I can't believe him. LeBron is a better baller anyway.


Posted By: miana79
Date Posted: Mar 27 2014 at 11:15pm
He is a straight up cooon, even his own family called him out on that. He mentioned facts? Well facts show trey was the victim.


Posted By: femmemichelle
Date Posted: Mar 27 2014 at 11:28pm
Kobe is a coon. 

Goodbye sir.

And RIP Trayvon.


Posted By: creole booty
Date Posted: Mar 28 2014 at 1:53am
Someone needs to read african american lit and sh*t the hell up. Read some Langston Hughes and some Claude McKay. I have never liked him. He's so confused and ignorant. Ooh I don't like him. Wack ass.


Posted By: DiorShowGirl
Date Posted: Mar 28 2014 at 5:17am
Sang u have been thanked..


Posted By: kfoxx1998
Date Posted: Mar 28 2014 at 8:32am
He didn't learn a damn thing when America showed his ass he's regular old black. 


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Mar 28 2014 at 9:15am
I see the coon's cooning


Posted By: ThABxBoRoUgH
Date Posted: Mar 28 2014 at 10:00am
My problem is that he thinks that black people are the ones who are holding ourselves back from so-called "progress". Since when are the oppressed and marginalized responsible for their position in society? 

Also I feel like this needs to be explained: there is a REASON that black people so "commonly" come to the defense of other black people. We live in a society where everyone is innocent until proven guilty EXCEPT our people. Who the else is supposed to give our brother and sisters the benefit of the doubt when society won't? Everyone acts like the support we give one another is arbitrary. Once society starts to treat blacks and POC like we are actual people, then trust me when I say that people will start to "just listen to the facts just like you would in any other situation." 



Posted By: OoDles O
Date Posted: Mar 30 2014 at 2:34pm
Stephen A Explains Kobe's comment.



Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Mar 30 2014 at 2:44pm
Kobe black ass so out of touch it's disgusting.


Stephen A Smith tap dances on the sly didn't watch the vid though


Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Mar 30 2014 at 2:45pm
but they're wrong...ppl didn't come to TM's defense just because he was black.  we heard the facts from GZ immediately following the event and we didn't believe him.  this case did not take a year to form an opinion based on newly found facts.  every fact presented in the beginning was present at trial bc we had the story from the horse's mouth within 24-48 hrs of the crime.


Posted By: iliveforbhm
Date Posted: Mar 30 2014 at 2:48pm
Kobe wife is fine, I been looking at some cute Mexican chicks lately.


Posted By: indiecat
Date Posted: Mar 30 2014 at 2:51pm
^^^ not sure if you will find them here...


Posted By: iliveforbhm
Date Posted: Mar 30 2014 at 3:03pm
You mean the USA?


Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Mar 30 2014 at 3:09pm
Stephen A...no. Stephen's argument is that we always take the side of Black folk because they are Black and we all cry racism. Bish, you need to slow down that tap dancing for your wannabe boo dear friend Kobe. We know you stan for Kobe but damn.


Did anyone read Dr. Boyce Watkins take down of Kobe? Cotdamn the burn.LOL


Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Mar 30 2014 at 3:17pm
Originally posted by iliveforbhm iliveforbhm wrote:

You mean the USA?


By Mexican do you mean indigenous or the ones poisoned by generations of oppressive Spanish DNA? Indigenous Mexican girls always get the short end of the stick. Kobe's wife is ugly.


Posted By: Majesty02
Date Posted: Mar 30 2014 at 3:26pm
His Black Card has been revoked for the past 15 yrs. I'm not surprised at all my his coon comments. I actually expected this from him.


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Mar 30 2014 at 3:27pm
i think its more socially ignorant than culturally


Posted By: iliveforbhm
Date Posted: Mar 30 2014 at 3:30pm
Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

Originally posted by iliveforbhm iliveforbhm wrote:

You mean the USA?


By Mexican do you mean indigenous or the ones poisoned by generations of oppressive Spanish DNA? Indigenous Mexican girls always get the short end of the stick. Kobe's wife is ugly.


The ones who look fcking hot *shrugs*

She looks good to me



Posted By: indiecat
Date Posted: Mar 30 2014 at 3:33pm
I meant on bhm, try mhm


Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Mar 30 2014 at 3:35pm

Dr Boyce Watkins: 5 Disturbing Observations about Kobe Bryant

Like the rest of the world http://www.brothersonsports.com/kobe-on-trayvon-martin-i-wont-react-just-because-im-an-african-american/#prettyPhoto" rel="nofollow - , I was stunned to hear Los Angeles Lakers star Kobe Bryant argue that it was somehow an unecessary burden for a black man to stand in support of the late Trayvon Martin.  If anything, the Trayvon Martin case brought black people together in ways that we haven’t seen since the death of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.  The case was clear cut:  Trayvon had no weapon.  He wasn’t bothering anybody.  He was stalked out and murdered for appearing to look like a “thug.”  George Zimmerman is a free man and later showed that he is every bit as violent as the world believed him to be. Case closed.

Even NBA athletes, many of whom have been intimidated to sleep by a world that has become obsessed with empty materialism, stood in unity with Trayvon.   The biggest stars in the league, including LeBron James and Dwyane Wade, gave touching tributes to the young teen who didn’t deserve to die.  Their leadership helped to inspire a nation, and I applaud them for it.

But Kobe is a bit different.  He wants to be a replica of Michael Jordan, the man he could never quite match up to on the court.  He inherited nearly all of Jordan’s personality traits, both good and bad, as if he’d been studying him since he was a child.  Unlike LeBron James, who’s been able to win championships without becoming a clone of someone else, Kobe has become every bit as aloof, as disrespectful, as robotic, as simple-minded, as disconnected as the original Air Jordan himself.

This makes me sad, since Kobe could have been so much more than the empty, unhappy man he is today.

Here are five disturbing realizations about Kobe Bryant that we should keep in mind.  It might help put his sloppy words about Trayvon Martin into their proper context:

1) He, quite frankly, appears to be a selfish a**hole:  I won’t even go into the oddities of Kobe’s sexual assault case many years ago, where he was revealed http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/12/magazine/12CRIMINALIZING.html?pagewanted=print&position=&_r=0" rel="nofollow - to be the married man having unprotected sex with a woman he’d met an hour earlier just a few years after Magic Johnson announced that he had HIV.   If sleeping with random women unprotected and risking your wife’s health isn’t the root of selfishness, I don’t know what is.

We can also talk about the way Kobe’s spent his career jacking up ill-advised shots and attacking his teammates in public.  I’ve always loved Kobe’s game when he’s playing well, but I’ve never wanted to meet him.  Kobe is like the 14th century astronomers who thought that the sun revolved around the earth.  But instead, Kobe believes that the universe revolves about himself and won’t hear anything different.

2) He’s one-dimensional:  For LeBron James, life appears to be a mixture of possibilities, with as much meaning to be found off the court as on it. Dwyane Wade is every bit as committed to fatherhood as he is to dribbling and shooting.  For Kobe, there is nothing but basketball, basketball, basketball and more basketball.  He drives his teammates insane with his “win or die” mentality, and it probably makes him very difficult to play with.  While this might be what it takes for him to win NBA titles, it can also make you into a horrible person.  Once again, I ask you to take a look at Michael http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r6SQbTpJYI" rel="nofollow - Jordan’s hurtful, nasty Hall of Fame speech as a great case-in-point.

3) He’s arrogant:  Kobe’s confidence has served him well throughout the years, helping him rise to some of the most significant achievements in his sport.  But arrogance can also rob you of your ability to empathize with others.   Kobe’s decision to engage in ad hoc social commentary on an issue so important to so many people is reflective of a man who simply doesn’t give a damn.  I was hurt by Kobe’s remarks, since it’s sad to see one of our most prominent black men have more commitment to making McDonald’s commercials than he has to saving the lives of young black men like himself.  Kobe could have just said, “no comment.”

4) He’s materialistic:  If a corporation were to pay Kobe to say something, he’d say it without hesitation.  Men like Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan would buckdance for chicken if there is enough money involved. But the mere idea that standing up for your community is the right thing to do seems to escape them, like trying to teach a ballerina to shoot an AK-47.  Maybe black people just aren’t as profitable as the white ones.

5) He’s disconnected:   Jim Brown http://blacklikemoi.com/2014/03/jim-brown-calls-kobe-bryant-disconnected/" rel="nofollow - made compelling points about Kobe’s lack of connection to the black community during a recent interview on the Arsenio Hall Show.  Brown, like Muhammad Ali, is one of the greatest athletes of all time (as good or better than Kobe himself), and it wasn’t just because he dominated men on the field.  Brown is one of the greatest because he understood the importance of using his power to elevate the circumstances of the community that had given him so much.  Kobe’s inability to commit himself to something greater than himself makes him an extraordinary athlete, but a pathetic human being.

I hope that Kobe retracts his statements and keeps his social commentary to himself.  It’s ironic that a man who begged for sympathy after cheating on his wife with no protection can’t provide a lick of understanding for an unarmed teenager who had his future stolen by a deranged, racist, vigilante.   People didn’t support Trayvon just because he was black.  They supported him because it was the right thing to do. 

I also find it ironic that a man like Bryant will remain completely silent when it comes to speaking up for black America, but becomes bold and vocal when given an incentive to trash us.  Sitting on the bench in the fight for racial justice is bad enough, but it’s even worse when you work with our enemies to deliberately sabotage progress that is being made.  This turns us into Django and turns Kobe into Samuel L. Jackson’s character, who got shot in his a** at the end of the movie.   It’s a myth to believe that a racist has to be white…there are black racists all around us.

Kobe, grow up brother, it’s not always about you.  This one is about the black community.

Dr Boyce Watkins is a Finance Profesor at Syracuse University and author of the lecture series, http://www.store.yourblackworld.net/products/the-8-principles-of-black-male-empowerment-audio-lecture-electronic-download" rel="nofollow - “The 8 Principles of Black Male Empowerment.”  To have Dr Boyce Watkins commentary delivered to your email, https://greatblackspeakers.wufoo.com/forms/dr-boyce-watkins-on-aol-black-voices/" rel="nofollow - please click here.  



Posted By: iliveforbhm
Date Posted: Mar 30 2014 at 3:53pm
Dr Boyce mad he/she ain't got kobe money


Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Mar 30 2014 at 3:59pm
I live....She looks natural there.  Lately she's looking like a vampire cat.  

Eta on second thought, the knife already got to her in that 1st pic.


Posted By: iliveforbhm
Date Posted: Mar 30 2014 at 4:05pm
Everyone gets old and a lil less attractive



Posted By: Printer_Ink
Date Posted: Mar 30 2014 at 4:16pm
Originally posted by OoDles O OoDles O wrote:

Stephen A Explains Kobe's comment.





He's telling truth.

But my point is that... farrr more Black kids are being shot down every day .. but the Black community does not get irate and upset about it because ... these crimes are being committed by OTHER Black men.

It has to be that a White person shoots down a Black person for everyone to get upset.

Nobody 'gets' that though.

This is why it become nonsensical to hear a knee jerk reaction to the outrage of the Black community when a 'racial' icident occurs because when all those Black gang bangers, drug dealer etc are shooting up the Black kids in Detroit, Chicago etc ....... The Black community is basically okay with it.

Can't be upset that a White guy shot down sn innocent Black kid and NOT be upset when a Black guy shoots down a White kid or when a Black guy shoots down another Black kid. DUH!

Can't have it both ways .. an this is why the AA community loses credibilty in terms of these 'incidents'.

You can't pick and choose which crime to be outraged about ...


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Mar 30 2014 at 4:37pm
Originally posted by OoDles O OoDles O wrote:

Stephen A Explains Kobe's comment.



I'm sorry... Cow sh*t


Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Mar 30 2014 at 4:37pm
I'm still waiting on that damn lion...


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Mar 30 2014 at 4:48pm
I was just thinking bout this from an earlier conversation I had with someone today

Why is the onus of parity and morality placed on black people?

Why is it that black people have to behave in a particular way to garner respect from people who have Historically mistreated them?

American history is not based on blacks' misdeeds against whites where black have to demonstrate acts of good will and faith to be treated fairly ..

Kobe and that steepen a coon can get the fucck out here

And the coons who applauded him too


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Mar 30 2014 at 4:49pm
Originally posted by Printer_Ink Printer_Ink wrote:

Originally posted by OoDles O OoDles O wrote:

Stephen A Explains Kobe's comment.





He's telling truth.

But my point is that... farrr more Black kids are being shot down every day .. but the Black community does not get irate and upset about it because ... these crimes are being committed by OTHER Black men.

It has to be that a White person shoots down a Black person for everyone to get upset.

Nobody 'gets' that though.

This is why it become nonsensical to hear a knee jerk reaction to the outrage of the Black community when a 'racial' icident occurs because when all those Black gang bangers, drug dealer etc are shooting up the Black kids in Detroit, Chicago etc ....... The Black community is basically okay with it.

Can't be upset that a White guy shot down sn innocent Black kid and NOT be upset when a Black guy shoots down a White kid or when a Black guy shoots down another Black kid. DUH!

Can't have it both ways .. an this is why the AA community loses credibilty in terms of these 'incidents'.

You can't pick and choose which crime to be outraged about ...
walk into a lamp post sweetie


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Mar 30 2014 at 5:31pm
Always hated Kobe. I remember an appearance of his and some teammates on Kimmel a few years back. He was being so obnoxious and ignorant with Didier Mbenga? (I think that's his name, don't follow basketball really). He's just an ignorant individual all around.
(tried to find a video but they seem to have blocked everything!)



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