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Topic: Kiev is Burning
Posted By: tatee
Subject: Kiev is Burning
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 3:04pm
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Posted By: tatee
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 3:10pm
The months-long standoff between http://gawker.com/tag/ukraine" rel="nofollow - Ukraine's strongarm pro-Russian president and opposition protesters in the streets of Kiev, the capital, has turned grisly in recent hours, with nine deaths reported in clashes between police and the demonstrators.

Update, 2:17 p.m. EST: The most recent round of intense violence apparently began when government authorities tried and failed spectacularly to regain control of Kiev's main square from the demonstrators http://gawker.com/what-the-hells-going-on-in-ukraine-explained-1475024929" rel="nofollow - who have camped there since late last year . Via http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/19/world/europe/ukraine.html?hpw" rel="nofollow - the http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/19/world/europe/ukraine.html?hpw" rel="nofollow - New York Times :

Mayhem gripped the center of the Ukrainian capital on Tuesday evening as riot police officers tried to drive two armored personnel carriers through stone-reinforced barriers in Independence Square, the focal point of more than two months of protests against President Viktor F. Yanukovych.

Pelted by rocks and fireworks, the vehicles became stuck in the massive barricades outside the Khreschatyk Hotel and burst into flames, apparently trapping the security officers inside, prompting desperate rescue efforts from their colleagues.

All hell subsequently broke loose. This Reuters video captures some of the crazy:













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Posted By: OrriannaRose
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 4:51pm

Damn!


Posted By: kfoxx1998
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 5:00pm
That looks terrible.  Let's see how they respond to this in the next few days.   People could disappear.


Posted By: melikey
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 6:47pm
Wow That fire torch thing is scary as hell


Posted By: NJHairLuv
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 7:22pm
i was watching it this morning, but when i just clickedon the live stream that you posted, i was so horrified that i almost fell out of my chair!!!


Posted By: newdiva1
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 8:39pm
OMG that old man!!  CryBroken Heart 


Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 8:40pm
They are saying that protestors are setting up walls of fire to keep police out. Those protestors bout that life.Cry


Posted By: newdiva1
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 8:40pm
that's how you protest.


Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 8:51pm
^Guuurl!


Posted By: tatee
Date Posted: Feb 20 2014 at 11:56am

http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/02/20/3310881/need-know-growing-crisis-ukraine/" rel="nofollow - Everything You Need To Know About The Growing Crisis In Ukraine

By http://thinkprogress.org/person/hbrown/" rel="nofollow - Hayes Brown https://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=HayesBrown" rel="nofollow"> , http://thinkprogress.org/person/kkroh/" rel="nofollow - Kiley Kroh https://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=kileykroh" rel="nofollow"> , and http://thinkprogress.org/person/igor/" rel="nofollow - Igor Volsky https://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=@igorvolsky" rel="nofollow"> on February 20, 2014 at 11:50 am

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"Everything You Need To Know About The Growing Crisis In Ukraine"


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How it all began

The protests began on November 22, after President Viktor Yanukovych reversed course and refused to sign political and trade agreements with the European Union that had been in the works for years after heavy pressure from Moscow to abandon the agreements. Despite a violent police crackdown, protesters vowed to continue blockading streets and occupying public buildings until their central demand is met: the current government, including Yanukovych, must go.

The treaties would have opened the European Union market to Ukrainian companies and could have boosted the Ukrainian GDP by http://www.rferl.org/content/ukraine-association-agreement-explained/25181835.html" rel="nofollow - more than six percent over ten years . The country is suffering through an economic depression and lower tariffs and expanded competition could have also lowered prices, “fueling an increase of household consumption of some 12 percent.” Ukraine would have also adopted 350 EU laws, codifying what many Ukrainians saw as a “commitment to European standards of governance and social justice.” To them, the treaty was a way of diminishing Russia’s long-time influence and reversing the trend of persistent economic corruption and sluggishness.

“We don’t need the EU’s money. We need the EU’s values,” one protester http://world.time.com/2013/12/04/ukraines-protesters-are-inspired-by-european-ideals-however-illusory/" rel="nofollow - told TIME . Ukrainians have long viewed the West through rose-colored glasses and now see Russia as a “corrupt, inefficient, oligarch-driven regime” that can garner influence by flouting its “oil, gas and natural resources,” Fyodor Lukyanov, editor of the journal Russia in Global Affairs said.

Yanukovych explained his last-minute change of heart by claiming that “EU’s aid offers were insufficient and that Ukraine cannot afford to lose close trade ties with Russia.” Russia — which is trying to construct a Eurasian Union of former Soviet republics — began derailing the deal in August, when it imposed http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/11/29/ukraine-eu-deal-ditchedunderpressurefromrussia.html" rel="nofollow - painful trade sanctions against Ukraine and threatened the country with “gas bills.” “I have been one-on-one with Russia for three and a half years under very unequal conditions,” Yanukovych complained to German Chancellor Angela Merkel.


The crackdown

Protesters clash with police at Presidential office in Kiev, on Sunday.

Protesters clash with police at Presidential office in Kiev, on Sunday.

CREDIT: ASSOCIATED PRESS

Only days into the protests, Ukrainian police brutally cleared Kyiv’s Maidan Nezalezhnosti, where protesters had been peacefully assembled. Videos of police http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/12/02/video-of-police-brutality-in-kiev-fuels-rage/?_r=0" rel="nofollow - beating protesters went viral and heightened the outrage. The next day, protesters defied a court order and returned in even greater numbers — with an estimated 350,000 people taking to the streets of Kyiv and more assembling in cities across the country, even in the http://www.rferl.org/content/yanukovych-east/25188519.html" rel="nofollow - historically pro-Russian east .

Hundreds of people were injured in the violent clashes, including http://www.euronews.com/2013/12/01/euronews-cameraman-beaten-by-police-in-kiev-clashes/" rel="nofollow - dozens of journalists .

Protesters vowed to step up their efforts after a failed vote of no confidence in the Ukrainian parliament, http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/05/world/europe/ukraine-protests.html?hp" rel="nofollow - continuing to take over public buildings in the nation’s capital, blockading the central bank and the Cabinet Ministry and seizing City Hall. Protesters http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/04/world/europe/in-kiev-city-hall-energized-protesters-settle-in-for-a-long-winters-uprising.html?src=un&feedurl=http%3A%2F%2Fjson8.nytimes.com%2Fpages%2Fworld%2Feurope%2Findex.jsonp" rel="nofollow - vowed to occupy Kyiv’s streets and public buildings until their demands are met, despite the onset of deep winter.


Russia steps in

APTOPIX Ukraine Protest

CREDIT: AP Photo/Sergei Grits

Given the debate between whether Ukraine would turn towards the west or east in its future, it only seemed fitting that Moscow would soon step in. Russian president Vladimir Putin announced in December that it was willing to slash the amount Ukraine paid for Russian natural gas, a huge political win for the embattled Yanukovych. In addition, Russia would finance a http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/12/17/3074901/ukraine-russia-gas-deal/" rel="nofollow - $15 billion no-strings attached loan to help stave off a looming financial crisis. As of February, half of that loan has been dispersed to Kyiv.

Several weeks later, it seemed like the protests had themselves run out of gas, though Ukrainians still grumbled that the effects of the loan were unlikely to trickle down enough to effect their daily lives. That ennui changed with the hasty passage in mid-January of a slew of laws designed to further quiet dissent and curtail the freedom of assembly. It appears that legislation was the spark needed to http://www.buzzfeed.com/maxseddon/how-ukraines-protest-movement-turned-into-a-bitter-standoff" rel="nofollow - reignite the Maidan , with protesters returning en mass calling for Yanukovych to hold early elections. “These laws were a police club to hold over protesters and neutralize them. All they did was pour oil on the flames, make the situation sharper and radicalize the protests. These laws were the biggest mistake of Yanukovich this year,” Volodymyr Fesenko of the Penta think-tank http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBREA0K0YO20140121?feedType=RSS&irpc=932" rel="nofollow - told Reuters .

It was then that the previously entirely peaceful protests http://thinkprogress.org/security/2014/01/23/3195861/photos-protests-ukraine-signs-slowing/" rel="nofollow - began their descent into violence. Makeshift slingshots launched Molotov cocktails against policemen’s shields and government orders overturned previous bans preventing the use of water cannons in Kyiv’s freezing temperatures as tires burned on the streets. Groups of protesters began assaulting and arresting those who they believed to be members of “titushki,” unofficial gangs of pro-government civilians, placing them before civilian trials. At least one protester http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25858875" rel="nofollow - accused the police of torturing him after his arrest.


Kyiv explodes

ukraine music

CREDIT: YouTube

For a brief time, though, it appeared as though the government and opposition would actually be able to strike a deal. The anti-protest laws http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/29/world/europe/ukraine-prime-minister-resign.html" rel="nofollow - were repealed in late January; Prime Minister Mykola Azarov stepped down; Kyiv’s mayor was fired for allegedly ordering the initial crackdown. Demonstrators had earlier this week http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/16/world/europe/ukraine-protests/" rel="nofollow - abandoned their posts in Kyiv’s City Hall — which they had occupied for nearly three months — as part of the deal struck with the government to provide amnesty to those who had taken part in the protests and the revocation of the anti-protest laws.

Days later, however, the scene stands as it is http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/02/18/3303131/watch-protesters-riot-police-clash-ukraine-leaving-9-dead/" rel="nofollow - currently unfolding , with hundreds of riot police still circling the square with water cannons periodically returning to blast at the barricades. The most awe-inspiring images of the crisis appeared in the midst of this fighting, as demonstrators launched Molotov cocktails at the police formations and shone bright lasers at the guardsmen’s faces in an attempt to blind them as the fire designed to separate them from the police burned high. The Ukrainian government early Tuesday evening confirmed that at least seven protesters and two police officers died in the first wave of fighting. That number continued to grow until the first day’s casualty count had reached http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/19/us-ukraine-idUSBREA1G0OU20140219" rel="nofollow - at least 25 dead and hundreds injured.

A truce announced on Wednesday night had http://www.buzzfeed.com/maxseddon/death-toll-rises-in-ukraine-crisis-as-clashes-shatter-truce" rel="nofollow - already been shattered on Thursday morning, as the death toll sharply rose to http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/20/us-ukraine-idUSBREA1G0OU20140220" rel="nofollow - at least 50 over the course of the crisis, with opposition medics saying that number was actually at least 100. A new disturbing development came in the form of video that the demonstrators claimed shows http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DxkDiAcSF8&feature=youtu.be" rel="nofollow - snipers firing into their midst , resulting in reports of civilians with gunshot wounds to the neck, brain, and heart. A hotel near the square has become a http://www.theglobeandmail.com//news/world/scenes-of-blood-and-death-in-kiev-overtake-globe-reporters-hotel-lobby/article16994110/?cmpid=rss1&click=dlvr.it" rel="nofollow - makeshift trauma hospital , as opposition medics race to save the lives of people injured in the clashes. In response to the escalation, Kyiv mayor Volodymyr Makeyenko http://www.rferl.org/contentlive/clashes-in-ukraine-live-blog-kyiv/25267783.html#liveblog20574" rel="nofollow - resigned from Yanukoyvch’s ruling Party of Regions in protest.

Furthering the chance of greater bloodshed, the Ukrainian Ministry of the Interior said that http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26269221" rel="nofollow - 67 of its police officers had been taken captive by protesters, and have authorized the issuance of service firearms to the riot police and orders to http://en.ria.ru/world/20140220/187726857/Ukrainian-Police-Authorized-to-Use-Live-Ammo-as-Battle-Rages.html" rel="nofollow - fire live ammunition in their own defense. “We are outraged by the images of Ukrainian security forces firing automatic weapons on their own people,” White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said in a statement on Thursday about the reports.

Opposition leader and world heavyweight boxing champion Vitaliy Klitschko meanwhile on Thursday reiterated the opposition’s primary demand in a http://www.rferl.org/contentlive/clashes-in-ukraine-live-blog-kyiv/25267783.html#liveblog20600" rel="nofollow - video statement , namely that Yanukovych must call early elections, while urging his fellow countrymen to not allow excessive violence in the street.

Making matters all the more tense, Yanukovych now appears to be losing his grip on the west of his country, which is historically far less pro-Russia than the east. “Raising the prospect of Ukraine splitting along a historic cultural and linguistic faultline, the regional assembly in Lviv, a bastion of Ukrainian nationalism near the Polish border, issued a statement condemning President Viktor Yanukovich’s government for its ‘open warfare’ on demonstrators in Kiev and saying it took executive power locally for itself,” Reuters http://www.trust.org/item/20140219145730-hq9lv/?source=shtw" rel="nofollow - report on Wednesday . And in the eastern province of Crimea, http://www.rferl.org/content/ukraine-crimea-rising-separatism/25268303.html" rel="nofollow - pro-Russian separatism is on the rise, Radio Free Europe report on Thursday, fanning fears of a possible civil war situation.


The world responds

An anti-government protester holds a firearm as he mans a barricade in Kyiv

An anti-government protester holds a firearm as he mans a barricade in Kyiv

CREDIT: AP Photo/ Marko Drobnjakovic

“The United States condemns in the strongest terms the violence that’s taking place,” President Obama said on Wednesday, soon after landing for a summit in Mexico. “And we have been deeply engaged with our European partners as well as the Ukrainian government and the opposition to try to ensure that that violence ends. But we hold the Ukrainian government primarily responsible for making sure that it is dealing with peaceful protestors in an appropriate way, that the Ukrainian people are able to assemble and speak freely about their interests without fear of repression.”

Obama also emphasized that the U.S. expects the “Ukrainian government to show restraint, to not resort to violence in dealing with peaceful protestors.” He also urged the protesters to remain peaceful as well, warning “that with our European partners and the international community there will be consequences if people step over the line.”

The European Union on Thursday http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/20/us-ukraine-eu-idUSBREA1J16F20140220" rel="nofollow - approved targeted sanctions on Ukrainian government officials, as well as an arms embargo on the country. The U.S. also announced on Wednesday evening that it was http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/20/world/europe/ukraine-reaction.html" rel="nofollow - imposing a visa ban on 20 Ukrainian officials as part of their initial response to recent escalations. Experts, however, say that the announced embargos are http://www.heraldonline.com/2014/02/19/5695419/experts-us-travel-restrictions.html" rel="nofollow - unlikely to do much to change Yanukovych’s calculations. This is particularly true of the arms ban, since as Ukraine was a primary hub for manufacturing weapons during the Soviet Era they are http://zakon1.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/386-2009-%D1%80/page" rel="nofollow - awash in weapons .

Russia has for its part called the West’s threats of sanctions “blackmail.” A statement from Russia’s foreign ministry on Wednesday demanded Ukrainian opposition leaders “stop the bloodshed” and said Russia would use “all our influence” to bring peace to Ukraine, according to http://news.sky.com/story/1213843/ukraine-announces-anti-terror-operation" rel="nofollow - Sky News . Russia has http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/140219/kiev-protesters-face-police-eu-eyes-sanctions" rel="nofollow - also described the demonstrators as launching an “attempted coup d’etat,” language that Ukrainian government officials have been echoed in calling the operation to clear out the Maidan and suppress the protests an “anti-terrorist operation.”


Why it matters

Analysts contend that the protests represent the continued break from the old Soviet system and signal the countries lurch towards greater democracy and openness. The demonstrations have also “brought to the forefront http://www.rferl.org/content/ukraine-protests-generational-divide/25182439.html" rel="nofollow - a new generation of protesters that grew up in an independent Ukraine and have faint — if any — memories of the Soviet Union. They see themselves as Europeans, they are disillusioned with politics as usual, and they feel increasingly at odds with establishment opposition figures.”

“Ukraine is [the] most corrupt country in Europe,” Klitschko http://amanpour.blogs.cnn.com/2013/12/03/ukraine-is-most-corrupt-country-in-europe-says-boxer-klitschko/" rel="nofollow - told CNN in December. “Ukrainians don’t want to live in [a] police country.”

They’re also deeply frustrated by the state of the economy. The 2008 financial crisis took a particularly heavy toll on Ukraine, which saw its economy shrink by almost 15 percent in 2009. The declining economy is http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2013/12/03/confused-about-whats-happening-in-ukraine-here-are-5-things-you-should-know/" rel="nofollow - compounded by the country’s shrinking reserves of foreign currency and a population in freefall.

In the wake of so much suffering, Ukraine’s citizens are hungry for solutions. As Oleh Kostyuba points out in a New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/30/opinion/ukraines-battle-for-europe.html?_r=0" rel="nofollow - op-ed , “polls showed that a strong majority of Ukrainians supported integration with Europe, even in the East, the region most oriented toward Russia.” Yanukovych’s sudden reversal added insult to injury for many Ukrainians. As Greg Satell http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregsatell/2013/12/01/why-ukraine-matters/" rel="nofollow - writes in Forbes, while the Orange Revolution sent a clear message that elections could not be stolen, “this time people are taking to the streets to build a bridge to the future, for the country to adopt international standards and become, in the words of protesters, ‘a normal country.’”

And the fate of Ukraine is increasingly being seen as the latest front in a series of proxy clashes between the United States and Russia as each seeks to see their vision of Ukraine triumphant. As The New Republic’s Julia Ioffe pointed out earlier this week, the situation unfolding in Kyiv and across Ukraine is essentially Putin’s http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116655/kiev-ukraine-protests-are-vladimir-putins-worst-nightmare" rel="nofollow - worst nightmare , the sort of chaos his efforts to suppress dissent in Russia are meant to prevent. Given the geopolitical stakes at play, it is unlikely that either side’s supporters turn their attention away from Kyiv’s protests in the near future.

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Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Feb 20 2014 at 12:02pm
i tried to care, but the ukrainians are so racist that all my care evaporates



Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Feb 20 2014 at 12:03pm
Originally posted by OrriannaRose OrriannaRose wrote:


Damn!
thats a sad pic


Posted By: trudawg
Date Posted: Feb 20 2014 at 12:18pm
Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

i tried to care, but the ukrainians are so racist that all my care evaporates



Personally, I think the only reason it's getting so much media hype is because it's European folks acting out


Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Feb 20 2014 at 12:37pm
[America]Does it have oil?[america]

I ain't sheit lol.

Thank you for the article Tatee. I'll read it after class tonight.Approve


Posted By: iliveforbhm
Date Posted: Feb 20 2014 at 12:45pm
 
Burn Burn Burn!!! Flames are the beginning of Change and diminsh the illogical concept of Hope.
 
Smaug will Return!!!
 


Posted By: Alias_Avi
Date Posted: Feb 20 2014 at 1:19pm
The media picks and chooses what countries are worthy of coverage by what it deems as important to America's agenda

Venezuela is currently going through many protests all over every major city in the country but the mainstream media... not a peep


Posted By: iliveforbhm
Date Posted: Feb 20 2014 at 1:24pm
Venezula is burning too, but from American CIA agents propaganda and destruction.


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Feb 20 2014 at 2:48pm
Originally posted by iliveforbhm iliveforbhm wrote:

Venezula is burning too, but from American CIA agents propaganda and destruction.
this is true



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