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Topic: Do Africans Learn About American Slavery?
Posted By: Jewels212*
Subject: Do Africans Learn About American Slavery?
Date Posted: Feb 16 2014 at 8:37am
Wtf is this bullsh*t??? F*ck Tmz! They tried it!





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Posted By: Samoneisthebest
Date Posted: Feb 16 2014 at 9:24am
Stern Smile


Posted By: gemini1591
Date Posted: Feb 16 2014 at 9:34am
That was ridiculous. Are they going around asking non US born white celebrities this question. Hell they should ask US born white celebs that question.


Posted By: Katrenia
Date Posted: Feb 16 2014 at 9:35am
I went to school with an African woman who believed the son's of slaves were driven insane and the insanity was passed throughout generations. Stern Smile



Posted By: Lilaca
Date Posted: Feb 16 2014 at 9:40am
Do white Australians and americans learn  about how they stole countries, raped native women, and smell like wet dog?


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Feb 16 2014 at 10:01am
she looks good on that still

and that harare rhodie accent!!!



what was tmz doing in zim?


Posted By: Lilaca
Date Posted: Feb 16 2014 at 10:08am
Zim women are beautiful imo....fush all other non black races


Posted By: Marcelo22
Date Posted: Feb 16 2014 at 10:40am
Calm down OP. They do this every year especially during Black History Month. They try to rile blacks up intentionally. Don't fall for it.


Posted By: liesnalibis
Date Posted: Feb 16 2014 at 10:58am
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They have a hard time in Africa because they sold off their own people & then act like african Americans are weak or something that bitch the question wasn't really about America it was about a race of people she is related to the world doesn't revolve around America but the show you're on is american & bet you dont get paid in African currency so maybe it does
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Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Feb 16 2014 at 11:37am
Waiting on a paparazzi to ask a Jewish celeb:

Do they teach Israelis about the "Holocaust"? Or how 'their' land was forcibly stolen to create a country.Stern SmileStern Smile


Posted By: Lilaca
Date Posted: Feb 16 2014 at 11:49am
Originally posted by carolina cutie carolina cutie wrote:

Waiting on a paparazzi to ask a Jewish celeb:

Do they teach Israelis about the "Holocaust"? Or how 'their' land was forcibly stolen to create a country.Stern SmileStern Smile
Dead Shade in the question, i like. 




Posted By: melikey
Date Posted: Feb 16 2014 at 1:37pm
i liked her answer. 


Posted By: BBpants
Date Posted: Feb 16 2014 at 5:08pm
Wow....


Posted By: Blac1Chyna
Date Posted: Feb 16 2014 at 11:05pm
I don't do TMZ. Too much ignorance, entitlement and unchecked racism. They think they are so perfect when they are the most ratchet of the ratchet.


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 12:45am
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You just had to scroll to find that particular post




Posted By: liesnalibis
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 12:48am
He accurately explained how I feel about her insensitive answer.



Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 1:27am
Ah yes but of course

Of course


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 1:32am
I wish there were identifying landmarks in that vid



Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 1:36am
Hmmmm.....


Posted By: blaquefoxx
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 1:46am
White people are so damn crafty lol.

And lately TMZ have been doing a lot of ish that fly over most people heads.

Her dismissive response was typical...



Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 2:24am
Typical of?


Posted By: Alias_Avi
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 2:29am
Still giving TMZ the time of day I see Sleepy


Posted By: Printer_Ink
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 3:00am
Originally posted by Katrenia Katrenia wrote:

I went to school with an African woman who believed the son's of slaves were driven insane and the insanity was passed throughout generations. Stern Smile



Well, she's got a point .. judging from the posts in BHM. :)


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 4:33am
Originally posted by Printer_Ink Printer_Ink wrote:

Originally posted by Katrenia Katrenia wrote:

I went to school with an African woman who believed the son's of slaves were driven insane and the insanity was passed throughout generations. Stern Smile



Well, she's got a point .. judging from the posts in BHM. :)
you included right?


Posted By: Lite Brite
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 4:48am
WTF @ the intro?? FOH Thumbs Down


Posted By: bunzaveli
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 4:50am
Originally posted by liesnalibis liesnalibis wrote:

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They have a hard time in Africa because they sold off their own people & then act like african Americans are weak or something that bitch the question wasn't really about America it was about a race of people she is related to the world doesn't revolve around America but the show you're on is american & bet you dont get paid in African currency so maybe it does
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Posted By: iliveforbhm
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 6:30am
Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

Originally posted by Printer_Ink Printer_Ink wrote:

Originally posted by Katrenia Katrenia wrote:

I went to school with an African woman who believed the son's of slaves were driven insane and the insanity was passed throughout generations. Stern Smile



Well, she's got a point .. judging from the posts in BHM. :)
you included right?
 
Yes, she is included in this. "Don't throw rocks at the throne, please leave it alone, do not bark up that tree, that tree will fall on you" - Jay Z"


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 6:32am
Crack is wack!


Posted By: liesnalibis
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 7:04am
Originally posted by bunzaveli bunzaveli wrote:

Originally posted by liesnalibis liesnalibis wrote:

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They have a hard time in Africa because they sold off their own people & then act like african Americans are weak or something that bitch the question wasn't really about America it was about a race of people she is related to the world doesn't revolve around America but the show you're on is american & bet you dont get paid in African currency so maybe it does
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Prollem? Don't tell me Africans are untouchable.


Posted By: Oladunni
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 7:40am
Originally posted by liesnalibis liesnalibis wrote:

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They have a hard time in Africa because they sold off their own people & then act like african Americans are weak or something that bitch the question wasn't really about America it was about a race of people she is related to the world doesn't revolve around America but the show you're on is american & bet you dont get paid in African currency so maybe it does
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she's pretty
 and his response is a mess


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 8:09am
She's Zimbabwean, which is in Southern Africa. There is very little evidence that Southern African tribes particularly those in the inlands were involved in the slave trade directly

And lastly, slavery is taught in passing. No need to be taught slavery for many other reasons in that part of the world.

I can see why AAs are mad but not every African tribe was involved in the trade.

Dude is just sour and misinformed for many reasons..

Being a typical obnoxious American with his all Africans are from the same place attitude



Posted By: iliveforbhm
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 8:11am
Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

Crack is wack!

Are you suggesting that I take crack cocaine?


Posted By: liesnalibis
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 8:14am
I know one thing, it was disrespectful to come over here and after making a living off America thanks to slaves and their ancestors blazing the path to diss the hell out of us during black history month. He asked her a yes or no question. If she wanted to go deeper she could have come up with something more intelligent and respectful than "The world doesn't revolve around America you know." Um, bytch I see you still found your way here and you ain't goin back! Let an American go to Africa and disrespect their people and the civilization and see if we get a pass.

Like I always say, if Africa was so damn hot they wouldn't be here. Gtf!


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 8:17am
But she is home though!!!


Posted By: liesnalibis
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 8:18am
Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

She's Zimbabwean, which is in Southern Africa. There is very little evidence that Southern African tribes particularly those in the inlands were involved in the slave trade directly

And lastly, slavery is taught in passing. No need to be taught slavery for many other reasons in that part of the world.

I can see why AAs are mad but not every African tribe was involved in the trade.

Dude is just sour and misinformed for many reasons..

Being a typical obnoxious American with his all Africans are from the same place attitude


Nobody said she or her countrymen were at fault. But you don't dismiss your own like that in their own country they slaved and died for. If it weren't for slavery in America, she wouldn't be where she is today. I'm pretty sure I'm not descended from Southern Africans but I still address my people with more respect than that.

Picture them asking me if I learned about apartheid and saying some dumb shyt like the world doesn't revolve around South Africa you know. Censored


Posted By: liesnalibis
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 8:22am
Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

But she is home though!!!

She'll be back in time to pay the bills.

And then grinning all stupid like it's some sort of joke lookin like chomp offa Super Mario Bros. ThisAngry


Posted By: purple.chuckz
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 8:24am
I had a feeling that this conversation would veer left.

Do y'all learn about the African tribes pre-colonialism , colonialism and post colonial Africa? 

We learn a bit about slavery and then move on to Colonialism and African Independence. I remember being taught about Haiti and Toussaint Louverture, We didn't discuss the civil rights era. 


Posted By: liesnalibis
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 8:27am
You mean World History and Human Civilizations? yes we do!


Posted By: purple.chuckz
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 8:29am
Good.  Shots for everyone. Let's move on. 


Posted By: indiecat
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 8:32am
Tmz always makes blacks look bad. Didn't they ask djimon how he felt about all of the slave roles out there for blacks these days?


Posted By: keepgrowing
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 8:57am
Originally posted by liesnalibis liesnalibis wrote:

Originally posted by bunzaveli bunzaveli wrote:

Originally posted by liesnalibis liesnalibis wrote:

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They have a hard time in Africa because they sold off their own people & then act like african Americans are weak or something that bitch the question wasn't really about America it was about a race of people she is related to the world doesn't revolve around America but the show you're on is american & bet you dont get paid in African currency so maybe it does
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Prollem? Don't tell me Africans are untouchable.


I'm reluctant to believe it existed to the extent that people promote it as especially since the same white people writing history didn't believe Africans were capable of building Egyptian pyramids. If you believe the slave trade happened so readily without any force and ignored the British and Portugal colonies that were populating Africa, then you should also believe that Native Americans readily gave up their land and they celebrated their new found European friends by having a turkey dinner.


Posted By: iliveforbhm
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 9:07am
Nope, I never learned about African history in school and I always wondered why and we skimmed past egypt and off to greece, rome, and even the Incas. But I self study a lot and learned on my own and learned a great deal about African history.
 
Call me " I think I'm Mansa Musa, Esaur" is what Rick Ross should have rapped about.


Posted By: melikey
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 9:48am
African Americans think African history is basically Egyptian history.


Posted By: iliveforbhm
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 10:12am
Yeah, mostly they think it is. The Nok civilization is the oldest west african civilization.


Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 11:57am
Public schools in the US taught us about Africa! They really did.

Egypt!Big smile
Egypt!Big smile

Slave trade Cry(our bad y'all! But hey! The Africans sold Black people too so we're not totally to blame here.)
..and that's it.

Frederick DouglasOuch
Harriet TubmanOuch
Sojourner TruthOuch
MLK (Malcolm X, who's he?!)Big smile
...and that's about it.



Like I said in another similar AA vs Africans thread, I am still waiting for the lion to eat Printer but that's my insane slave negro mind talking.


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 12:19pm
Originally posted by liesnalibis liesnalibis wrote:

Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

She's Zimbabwean, which is in Southern Africa. There is very little evidence that Southern African tribes particularly those in the inlands were involved in the slave trade directly

And lastly, slavery is taught in passing. No need to be taught slavery for many other reasons in that part of the world.

I can see why AAs are mad but not every African tribe was involved in the trade.

Dude is just sour and misinformed for many reasons..

Being a typical obnoxious American with his all Africans are from the same place attitude



Nobody said she or her countrymen were at fault. But you don't dismiss your own like that in their own country they slaved and died for. If it weren't for slavery in America, she wouldn't be where she is today. I'm pretty sure I'm not descended from S<span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 1.4;">outhern Africans but I still address my people with more respect than that.</span>
<span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 1.4;">
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<span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 1.4;">Picture them asking me if I learned about apartheid and saying some dumb shyt like the world doesn't revolve around South Africa you know. Censored</span>


see here is the crux of the matter and is where your analogy fails

1. slavery happened centuries ago, and the system takes measures to systematically down play that part of history.. thus it is highly unlikely they would willingly export their history of brutality

2. if i asked the average american on colonialism and imperialism (and its effect on history either by the defacement and destruction of historical artefacts and since we are talking about a zimbabwean traditionally historical figures like nehanda kaguvi and their equivalent within other tribes etc etc etc) i probably wouldnt get an answer .. and it ended much later than slavery

3. apartheid is in recent history and ended in our lifetime/ generation and thus an equal comparison would be the civil rights movement

you're just pissed off for the sake of being pissed off.

her response was more dismissive to the paparazzi than it was dismissive of history

though she was absolutely correct in her response

4. you gots to chill /eric b


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 12:20pm
Originally posted by carolina cutie carolina cutie wrote:

Public schools in the US taught us about Africa! They really did.

Egypt!Big smile
Egypt!Big smile

Slave trade Cry(our bad y'all! But hey! The Africans sold Black people too so we're not totally to blame here.)
..and that's it.

Frederick DouglasOuch
Harriet TubmanOuch
Sojourner TruthOuch
MLK (Malcolm X, who's he?!)Big smile
...and that's about it.



Like I said in another similar AA vs Africans thread, I am still waiting for the lion to eat Printer but that's my insane slave negro mind talking.


given the option, id resell her bloodline

ol coon ass


Posted By: kfoxx1998
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 1:37pm
Now I have to read this because y'all are talking about something else now. 


Posted By: kfoxx1998
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 1:53pm
Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:



2. if i asked the average american on colonialism and imperialism (and its effect on history either by the defacement and destruction of historical artefacts and since we are talking about a zimbabwean traditionally historical figures like nehanda kaguvi and their equivalent within other tribes etc etc etc) i probably wouldnt get an answer .. and it ended much later than slavery


Sadly I have to agree with this and not just if you asked them about past history but if you asked about CURRENT affairs any place other than America.   I know people who don't understand a damn thing about ANY other country and with Africa its like Why is Africa dealing with color-ism when they have a whole black "country" all to themselves and should have a great self-imageDead?? 

Her answer exemplified how stupid and "bait-y" that question was.   Living in the bubble is bad for your brain.    


Posted By: femmemichelle
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 2:05pm
Originally posted by liesnalibis liesnalibis wrote:

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They have a hard time in Africa because they sold off their own people & then act like african Americans are weak or something that bitch the question wasn't really about America it was about a race of people she is related to the world doesn't revolve around America but the show you're on is american & bet you dont get paid in African currency so maybe it does
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Ignorant ass comment. The world does NOT revolve around America. Yes she is getting paid in American currency. It's the land of opportunity! 


Posted By: femmemichelle
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 2:06pm
And who is they? Please point to specific members in each of my African friends' families who sold blacks off to the Americas. I will wait.




Posted By: femmemichelle
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 2:09pm
Originally posted by liesnalibis liesnalibis wrote:

I know one thing, it was disrespectful to come over here and after making a living off America thanks to slaves and their ancestors blazing the path to diss the hell out of us during black history month. He asked her a yes or no question. If she wanted to go deeper she could have come up with something more intelligent and respectful than "The world doesn't revolve around America you know." Um, bytch I see you still found your way here and you ain't goin back! Let an American go to Africa and disrespect their people and the civilization and see if we get a pass.

Like I always say, if Africa was so damn hot they wouldn't be here. Gtf!

Your fallacy lies in the fact that Africans don't assume the world needs to bow down to their feet as if they're the only continent worthy of praise. Americans often do, and this is where the butt hurt is coming from. 

How many of YOU know anything about African history? Why would you assume people in Africa would know anymore about you than you know about them? 


Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 2:09pm
*Messy O post*

I was waiting on the African BHM members to come read this thread.Beer


Posted By: keepgrowing
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 2:51pm
Every time we got to slavery in my history classes, white teachers emphasized the role of Africans in slave trade as well as Africans with their dark skin and stature were better able to endure longer hours in the sun than whites so it makes "sense" that whites would "use" Africans to work the field during those times. Bull sh*t.

They say this to take the blame off of whites and rationalize slavery as necessary. They skipped the monstrous acts whites did towards blacks in and out of Africa. They also neglected to mention the African nations fighting to gain freedom from colonialism and apartheid is skimmed over.


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 4:11pm
Originally posted by carolina cutie carolina cutie wrote:

*Messy O post*

I was waiting on the African BHM members to come read this thread.Beer

messy

messy

messy



Posted By: creole booty
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 4:29pm
Originally posted by femmemichelle femmemichelle wrote:

And who is they? Please point to specific members in each of my African friends' families who sold blacks off to the Americas. I will wait.




Disclaimer: What ur saying makes sense. I'm quoting u for a different reason than to disagree with u.

Post: what femme said, I swear on life, is what white people in America in 2013 have said to me.

(My personal opinion on the exact comment made, in context, is that it wasn't nearly enough blacks selling people into slavery for that to b brought up by African Americans or anyone for that matter.. What? Like 0.05% of slaves in slavery were there because of blacks, right? I don't understand y people even mention that.)


Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 4:48pm
creole, i was going to say the same thing...that's exactly what white people say.  not a shot at femme but it's really no diff than the broad stroke painted twd the other race.

but what i was coming in to say is....yes, the world DOES revolve around black america. Cool


Posted By: alynxx
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 5:36pm
Jokers asking her that. Yes the world do NOT revolve around America. Next please.


Posted By: Oladunni
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 5:40pm
Originally posted by creole booty creole booty wrote:

Originally posted by femmemichelle femmemichelle wrote:

And who is they? Please point to specific members in each of my African friends' families who sold blacks off to the Americas. I will wait.




Disclaimer: What ur saying makes sense. I'm quoting u for a different reason than to disagree with u.

Post: what femme said, I swear on life, is what white people in America in 2013 have said to me.

(My personal opinion on the exact comment made, in context, is that it wasn't nearly enough blacks selling people into slavery for that to b brought up by African Americans or anyone for that matter.. What? Like 0.05% of slaves in slavery were there because of blacks, right? I don't understand y people even mention that.)

mmmhmmm


Posted By: purple.chuckz
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 6:48pm
This. I know the Kongo empire sold some of their own slaves and rival tries into slavery, but the Portuguese flipped the script and sold them into slavery too.

A good chunk of the Congolese ended up in Brazil .

Afonso I
c. 1456 to 1545
Catholic
Congo/Dem. Rep. of Congo/Angola


Manikongo Afonso I, the greatest king of the Kongo, reigned from 1506 to 1545. He worked with the Portuguese to bring Christianity to the Kingdom - which was located in the area of present day Angola, Congo, and Zaire - and was the first African king to be recognized in Europe. In the end, however, he was unable to contain the Portuguese, who wished to develop the slave trade.

Afonso was born Mvemba Nzinga and son of the manikongo - the king - of the Kongo, who in 1482 made the first contact with the Portuguese. Mvemba converted to Catholicism, taking the name Afonso. When his father, Nzingu Kuwu (João I), reverted to the traditional Kongo religion, Afonso welcomed the expelled missionaries to the province he governed. The Kongo political system provided for the open election of a successor from among the descendants of the first king. Upon his father's death, Afonso's non-Christian brother attempted to deny him the election, but Afonso defeated him in battle and took the throne. He attributed his victory to divine intervention, inspired by a vision of Santiago Matamoros (St. James the Apostle), who was also the symbol of Christian victory over the Muslims during the crusades in Spain and Portugal.

Afonso entered into relations with King Manuel of Portugal to the profit of both countries. Manuel supplied missionaries and craftsmen to the Kongo; Afonso granted trade privileges to the Portuguese. In his domestic policy Afonso pursued a progressive course, building schools and roads and encouraging development.

The Portuguese became an increasing problem within the kingdom. Many of the architects, doctors and pharmacists turned to commerce rather than practicing their professions. They ignored the laws of the Kongo, and in 1510 Afonso had to ask Portugal for a special representative with authority over his countrymen. Manuel responded with an ambitious plan for Westernizing Kongo society in exchange for ivory, copper, and slaves. Afonso rejected most of the plan, but the expanding slave trade presented serious challenges to the Kongo's stability. Afonso did not repudiate slavery on principle, but in 1526 he issued decrees to regulate and moderate it.

Initially, slavery was limited to war captives, who were numerous enough because of various local battles and continual border disputes. A commission was set up to see that no one was kidnapped into slavery, but soon almost every Portuguese, including the missionaries, was raiding far into the interior, and the Portuguese craftsmen expected to be paid in slaves. By the 1530s the slave traders had contacts on São Tomé Island, an off-shore colony with a royal trade monopoly from Manuel. Because São Tomé stood to lose by strong bonds between Kongo and Portugal, it made every attempt to sabotage those relations.

The Portuguese were wrongly convinced that the Kongo had vast mineral riches that the king was keeping from them. In 1540 they attempted to assassinate Afonso on Easter Sunday as he attended mass, and he barely escaped.

Afonso promoted Christianity diligently, destroying traditional religious symbols and building churches and schools, but the few missionaries he was sent proved to be lazy, corrupt, and venal; they took concubines and lived as nobility. The other Portuguese were also poor examples of the new faith, engaging in drunken orgies and theft. In 1529 and again in 1539 Afonso appealed to the pope for intervention against Portuguese abuses, but to no avail. He sent talented young men to Portugal to be educated. Among them was his son Dom Henrique, who was consecrated a bishop in 1518. This attempt at developing an indigenous clergy failed, even though Dom Henrique returned to the kingdom. In spite of difficulties and the scandalous behavior of the Portuguese, the kingdom nevertheless slowly became partly Christianized.

When Afonso died, there was a dynastic struggle, and his immediate successor, Pedro I, was overthrown and replaced by a grandson, DIOGO I. The Kongo remained at least nominally Christian for over a century, but the hopeful signs of African-European partnership in international relations were shattered by the Portuguese, who began a ruthless expansion of the slave trade.




Posted By: _ConcreteRose_
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 7:09pm
It's funny Im writing a paper about this now.

The history of oppressed people aren't told because the oppressors don't want it to be told. This goes for slavery in the America's an Colonialism in Africa. The only history we, know is the history taught from the white people's eyes (even if subtly), which inherently isn't really the truth. Blacks were denied humanity and written about as if they were objects, if we were written about at all. So long story short instead of fighting between AA's and Africans, we need to be mad at white people because both of our history has been suppressed from the jump.


Posted By: Lite Brite
Date Posted: Feb 17 2014 at 9:06pm
So, I understand both sides of the argument, and of course we can't expect that it would be such a big deal in other areas of the world. As Americans we do have a very self-centered way of thinking. However, I would hope no one honestly thinks someone is being sensitive or fake-mad if they get offended by her comment. I would think the negative feelings about her comment are not about the fact that her country didn't dwell on our history, but the fact that she is working here, probably knows more now what a big mess slavery caused, and still made a comment that implies she doesnt give a fck and it's not important.

I would expect yall to roll your eyes at an American saying something similar in your country.

And maybe she doesnt give a fck, and I understand why.. but you have to admit that her comment can still be seen as offensive.. right?? No? Ok.

Maybe they just caught her off guard and she didn't mean it to come across that way.. but it did for some. .and they can be mad. .. Ps. F*ck TMZ


Posted By: Xamaycana
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 1:40am
I live in a country where most of the blacks are Africans.  Africans in general are dismissive of the plight of formerly enslaved blacks.   I have encountered the thing where they feel those of us descended from enslaved blacks are inferior.  The North Africans feel they are better than the Southern Africans.  The East Africans feel they are better than the West Africans.  The West Africans feel they are superior to diaspora blacks.

It's a bit odd to say the world does not rely on America when you are living  and pursuing opportunities in America by choice.   

The trans-Atlantic Slave trade was one the biggest atrocities in history.  It's shameful if it is indeed glossed over in African schools.


ETA-  Just watched the clip which was pretty obnoxious.  I can understand her not wanting to engage them.  I stand by my comment though based on some of the comments in the thread.


Posted By: newdiva1
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 1:52am
Most AA's (IMO) don't know in depth history about people's of colour from other places so....


she shoulda hit him with that.  If u gone expect her to know so much then i'm gone need them to have just as much knowledge on the country from which she hails.  From what I can see of the thumbnail...no shade but that don't look like the time for that question.  Is she on her way into a venue or summin'?   smh.   tryna cause prollems during black history month.


*a didn't watch vid post*


Posted By: nitabug
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 6:23am
Her answer was great.


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 6:29am
Africans are well versed in their respective colonial history's


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 6:30am
Originally posted by Xamaycana Xamaycana wrote:

The North Africans feel they are better than the Southern Africans.  The East Africans feel they are better than the West Africans.  The West Africans feel they are superior to diaspora blacks.


reminds me of the progressive north vs backward south debates on bhm



Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 6:58am
And it's not glossed over .. It's discussed and it's impact recognised however those are llarge parts taken from the colonisers themselves since the Europeans m.o when taking over colonies since time immemorial was the obliteration of that land's history. Oral historians included. Let's not forget that entire settlements were wiped out. So for example where would one get that history now?

sh*t.. Even white people destroyed their slave ledgers which make it difficult for descendants of the slave trade to trace their lineage. They weren't stupid. They knew what they were doing. So to find any accessible history that details the intricacies of the slave trade is likely to be documented by white people and we know that's grossly inaccurate.

Interesting discussion though


Posted By: Diane (35)
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 7:19am
I don't see one thing wrong with her answer and eff those who are claiming oh she works in America she shouldn't say one thing negative about it that's grasping at straws. The real problem here is TMZ asking the question in the first place, which was clearly a bait question, the real problem is the YTs and the institution of slavery in the first place. Why oh why do we always forget?

Americans often forget that the US engineers conditions that cause other countries to suffer and be dependent on them, undermining progression, growth and development, whether or not the population has the opportunity to emigrate or not. Also how y'all know the producers of whatever show didn't beg her to come shoot in the US? I;m joking

Most AAs don't know their own history, in this here thread (and others) Y'all have admitted to a being taught YTwashed version. And why oh why should the curriculum of any far of land include AA history? To teach that in a the 35 hour school week would definitely mean that the history of that country or region would be significantly reduced. PLUS what would be taught the version of history that paints YTs i a favourable light or should the teachers in far off place dig deep and do the research that is't done in America?

 It's three-parts to the TransAtlantic Slave trade. AAs never recall much about the Caribbean except probably the Haitian Revolution. We are taught about Africa but focus on our situation in Jamaica/Caribbean (and rightly so) and American figures are mentioned. Can we recall for one moment that the experience was NOT the same across the board. 
Zaymacana why would you say it was glossed over? Colonialism impacted the Africans wicked wicked. People often forget that lands were taken and the Africans pushed aside roads built missionaries and all that jazz. Come nuh man? How is it that all the resources Africa has is in the hands of YT corps and/or countries?

However and its a big however (for Americans can not appreciate how much culture their culture erases elsewhere, how dominant it is, how it is forced) we learn AA history through AA media and television. Roots (often a must watch in some high schools), Malcolm X, Black Panthers,Civil Rights and we consider it a shared history especially in the aftermath of slavery cause IMO the writers (in standard high school texts) do not properly deal with what happened to former slaves after Emancipation. Here is where I'm grateful cause Jamaican don't have the time nor funding to produce movies and documentaries on slavery or even to get the material out of the museums or universities online

I can never get over the American attitude of if you don't like us or make a negative comment about us don't come here to work or visit. Star's post with the comment was just so ridiculous to me.

If i stopped and asked an AA who was Marcus Garvey did he factor into AA history if so to what extent? They probably couldn't tell me.

There are certain truth in the black community and on BHM here: the phenomena of negro elitism, where it stem from and why it shouldn't be used . That said, Yardies do it betterCool

ETA Just saw afro's post. The English were excellent record keepers, but when you look at the numbers of what was left behind you side-eye them fools. They burned them tore out pages all sort of shady behaviour. I imagine when they fled they threw they overboard AND they kept a few in dusty attics in England to cry over the "good times:a nd all the money they lostDead

This thread reminds me of when the yardies came out in full force in a thread and sandy said the yardie bat signal was a gyal dutty wining. LOL what's the African one?

Oh yea I'm side-eyeing all of you negroes for not providing me with fresh Black History Month information in 2014!! Y'all ain't doo-doo.


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 7:29am
Ululation?


Posted By: Diane (35)
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 7:32am
Hehhehehe Probably afro


Posted By: iliveforbhm
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 7:40am
Diane, I asked my father almost 60 years of age did he know who Marcus Garvey was and he didn't know who he was. He was born 30 years after his movement had ended, that's enough time to put distance on anything for anyone who does't pay attention to their history. My kids are gonna be some learned negros.


Posted By: kfoxx1998
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 8:20am
Originally posted by Diane (35) Diane (35) wrote:

I can never get over the American attitude of if you don't like us or make a negative comment about us don't come here to work or visit. Star's post with the comment was just so ridiculous to me.


And here's where the rubber should meet the road.  We AAs need to stop defending a country that gives no fcks about us, kills our children, disproportionately takes our men away from their families and calls us the animals that they in fact are. 

I wish I would spend one half breath defending America against and African woman or worse, defending that racist ass non-funny TMZ "skit" over a black woman.  I understand that some non-AAs don't get us.  Its okay.  They aren't over here threatening the life and well-being of people I love so their confusion is of no consequence in the end. 

Thank you sister D!


Posted By: melikey
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 8:21am
Aww we learned about Marcus Garvey at home.

My mom used to wake us up every morning with his quote "up you mighty race, accomplish what you will!"

Eta: my mom is super pro black though, self taught herself our history and passed it on to us as children as a part of every day life.


Posted By: ThoughtCouture
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 8:26am
ummmm what's the problem?  she said somewhat.  wtf else should she had said to dem cracka azz crackas? 
 
ps...oh yeah she said that.  the world doesn't revolve around america.
 
pss...and she looked absolutely fabulous whilst saying it!


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 8:32am
no its not about defending a country that gives no fcks.
this is where I live, where my parents live, where their parents live.
I'm defending them.
 
and I won't stop that


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 8:34am
Originally posted by Diane (35) Diane (35) wrote:

I don't see one thing wrong with her answer and eff those who are claiming oh she works in America she shouldn't say one thing negative about it that's grasping at straws. The real problem here is TMZ asking the question in the first place, which was clearly a bait question, the real problem is the YTs and the institution of slavery in the first place. Why oh why do we always forget?

Americans often forget that the US engineers conditions that cause other countries to suffer and be dependent on them, undermining progression, growth and development, whether or not the population has the opportunity to emigrate or not. Also how y'all know the producers of whatever show didn't beg her to come shoot in the US? I;m joking

Most AAs don't know their own history, in this here thread (and others) Y'all have admitted to a being taught YTwashed version. And why oh why should the curriculum of any far of land include AA history? To teach that in a the 35 hour school week would definitely mean that the history of that country or region would be significantly reduced. PLUS what would be taught the version of history that paints YTs i a favourable light or should the teachers in far off place dig deep and do the research that is't done in America?

 It's three-parts to the TransAtlantic Slave trade. AAs never recall much about the Caribbean except probably the Haitian Revolution. We are taught about Africa but focus on our situation in Jamaica/Caribbean (and rightly so) and American figures are mentioned. Can we recall for one moment that the experience was NOT the same across the board. 
Zaymacana why would you say it was glossed over? Colonialism impacted the Africans wicked wicked. People often forget that lands were taken and the Africans pushed aside roads built missionaries and all that jazz. Come nuh man? How is it that all the resources Africa has is in the hands of YT corps and/or countries?

However and its a big however (for Americans can not appreciate how much culture their culture erases elsewhere, how dominant it is, how it is forced) we learn AA history through AA media and television. Roots (often a must watch in some high schools), Malcolm X, Black Panthers,Civil Rights and we consider it a shared history especially in the aftermath of slavery cause IMO the writers (in standard high school texts) do not properly deal with what happened to former slaves after Emancipation. Here is where I'm grateful cause Jamaican don't have the time nor funding to produce movies and documentaries on slavery or even to get the material out of the museums or universities online

I can never get over the American attitude of if you don't like us or make a negative comment about us don't come here to work or visit. Star's post with the comment was just so ridiculous to me.

If i stopped and asked an AA who was Marcus Garvey did he factor into AA history if so to what extent? They probably couldn't tell me.

There are certain truth in the black community and on BHM here: the phenomena of negro elitism, where it stem from and why it shouldn't be used . That said, Yardies do it betterCool

ETA Just saw afro's post. The English were excellent record keepers, but when you look at the numbers of what was left behind you side-eye them fools. They burned them tore out pages all sort of shady behaviour. I imagine when they fled they threw they overboard AND they kept a few in dusty attics in England to cry over the "good times:a nd all the money they lostDead

This thread reminds me of when the yardies came out in full force in a thread and sandy said the yardie bat signal was a gyal dutty wining. LOL what's the African one?

Oh yea I'm side-eyeing all of you negroes for not providing me with fresh Black History Month information in 2014!! Y'all ain't doo-doo.



Diane! All of this!


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 8:41am
And honestly, I don't understand how some of you expected her to respond to that. It's clear as day to anyone with any sense at all that the intentions behind the question were ugly. The question wasn't posed in earnest. And that black dude with the dreads have been bought and paid for. He didn't even try to pretend to be offended, like he usually does, he was cheesing like an idiot.


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 8:45am
I have so much ish to say.
Y'all try to make AA feel ashamed about where they were dragged to. That onus is not on us.
 
far as I'm concerned all this sh*t is,mine anyway.
 


Posted By: ThoughtCouture
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 8:53am
speak on it jones.
 
personally, i don't feel ashamed one bit.  and even if i did think some africans were trying to make us feel ashamed (i'm assuming that is the "ya'll" who you are referring to)...the root cause for all of dat still lies at the door step of the pale faced, pale eyed, paled haired, pale souled, pale everything usurper anyway so meh...


Posted By: nitabug
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 8:55am
Originally posted by Xamaycana Xamaycana wrote:



It's a bit odd to say the world does not rely on America when you are living  and pursuing opportunities in America by choice.    

.

I disagree. im American and feel the same way she does. The world does not revolve around Amerikkka


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 8:57am
The thing is, I'm not even denying the existence of what Diane calls negro elitism. It's out there, I've seen and heard it. The point is that in the context of this specific clip, it wasn't about that. It was about TMZ being their usual racist selves and it doesn't take a genius to figure that out. It's not like you had to be there, it's clear as day. In that context, was she supposed to cheese and act oblivious? Some of you who take offense to her response are displacing the problem onto her.


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 9:00am
Nigeria has a similar complex.
what's that saying?
when Nigeria sneezes the rest of Africa catches a cold?
 
 


Posted By: ThoughtCouture
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 9:01am
exactly jp.  was she supposed to actually attempt to have any sort of meaningful conversation with these fools.  no mam.


Posted By: SeducTress
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 9:03am
Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:


I have so much ish to say.
Y'all try to make AA feel ashamed about where they were dragged to. That onus is not on us.
 
far as I'm concerned all this sh*t is,mine anyway.
 


Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:


I have so much ish to say.
Y'all try to make AA feel ashamed about where they were dragged to. That onus is not on us.
 
far as I'm concerned all this sh*t is,mine anyway.
 



OMG! As do I but I'm on my phone.

Lemme say this much. I will not be shamed into not claiming MY country that OUR ancestors literally bled out every waking moment across this vast nation.... To whom does that serve.

Oh. That'll show em!

Uh. Negative. Practically spit in the face of those that paved the way.

I'm black. Not some bastard child of the diaspora. That's probably why AA get defensive.... This country ain't sh*t but it's still my home.

Every single country on this planet has ain't sh*t in them. Every single one

I wonder if this is a generational thing. Sort of like that moment in "The Butler" between father and son.


Posted By: SeducTress
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 9:05am
And for the record I'm not concerned about her reply. I'm in here for the spin off discussions


Posted By: kfoxx1998
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 9:05am
I've been here (in America) for a long time.  I've followed all the rules that good black folk should follow but somehow this still isn't MY country.   I'm an interloper.   I'm trying to figure out how many years we have to wait for all of the racist pieces of sh*t to die so we can finally be regular Americans and not the "other" kind.   I mean it has been over 400 years and they're still aliveDisapprove

ETA:  This wasn't a reply to ducky, just what I started thinking about.   Maybe it is generational.  When I was in my twenties I felt the way y'all feel.  We've been "post racial" for a long time.


Posted By: MsBMW
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 9:05am
Originally posted by SeducTress SeducTress wrote:

Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:


I have so much ish to say.
Y'all try to make AA feel ashamed about where they were dragged to. That onus is not on us.
 
far as I'm concerned all this sh*t is,mine anyway.
 


Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:


I have so much ish to say.
Y'all try to make AA feel ashamed about where they were dragged to. That onus is not on us.
 
far as I'm concerned all this sh*t is,mine anyway.
 



OMG! As do I but I'm on my phone.

Lemme say this much. I will not be shamed into not claiming MY country that OUR ancestors literally bled out every waking moment across this vast nation.... To whom does that serve.

Oh. That'll show em!

Uh. Negative. Practically spit in the face of those that paved the way.

I'm black. Not some bastard child of the diaspora. That's probably why AA get defensive.... This country ain't sh*t but it's still my home.

Every single country on this planet has ain't sh*t in them. Every single one

I wonder if this is a generational thing. Sort of like that moment in "The Help" between father and son.

Please stop making senseClap


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 9:07am
Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:

Nigeria has a similar complex.
what's that saying?
when Nigeria sneezes the rest of Africa catches a cold?
 
 


Hmmm... You're acting like AAs never had that complex towards black immigrants to the U.S., though. I'm old enough to remember how AAs used to refer to Haitians and African immigrants not that long ago. AAs are only now recognizing that there are other black realities in the world besides theirs. Hell even BHM was ignorant as hell just a few years ago.

And at the end of the day, this specific segment with Danai had nothing to do with that. If you're gonna speak on that issue, at least recognize that. What you're speaking about may indeed have some basis, but not in the context of that clip.



Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 9:07am
Don't even give a damn what that girl said.
eff TMZ, the tone of this thread about AA's is annoying


Posted By: iliveforbhm
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 9:09am
What are you negros discussing?


Posted By: ThoughtCouture
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 9:11am
Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:

Don't even give a damn what that girl said.
eff TMZ, the tone of this thread about AA's is annoying
 
well it seems to me the spin started in the other direction in response to what the girl said... 


Posted By: kfoxx1998
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 9:11am
Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:

Don't even give a damn what that girl said.
eff TMZ, the tone of this thread about AA's is annoying


I have seen this happen a few times.  Both have a crazy superiority thing going like our journey is better/worse than yours, at least we're not this or that, well we blah, blah.   This is the language of oppression.   Its like the argument between blacks and jews and gays.   Its stupid.   Pain is pain. 


Posted By: ThoughtCouture
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 9:13am
Originally posted by kfoxx1998 kfoxx1998 wrote:


I have seen this happen a few times.  Both have a crazy superiority thing going like our journey is better/worse than yours, at least we're not this or that, well we blah, blah.   This is the language of oppression.  
 
exactly.  meanwhile back at the ranch...the usurper just maxin and chillaxing...


Posted By: kfoxx1998
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 9:14am
Originally posted by ThoughtCouture ThoughtCouture wrote:

Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:

Don't even give a damn what that girl said.
eff TMZ, the tone of this thread about AA's is annoying
 
well it seems to me the spin started in the other direction in response to what the girl said... 


Yes and it wasn't a problem until someone disagreed.   She wasn't entitled to feel a certain way about her country and not give any fcks about America.   I mean she was talking to a yt person asking a stupid ass bait question that should have offended us all equally. 


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 9:17am
Don't give a fuk.
The Africans and Coconuts go hard in threads all that time often loud and wrong as hell.
 
but AA supposed to be quiet .
nah


Posted By: ThoughtCouture
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 9:20am
so do aa's and it is sad, imo...


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 9:21am
I wasn't trying to spin or derail the conversation but I was responding to what Jonesable and Starflower were complaining about. The spin had already started by then when that was introduced. But anyways, carry on.


Posted By: kfoxx1998
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 9:22am
I'm not sure why you think that jones.  I have seen both of them (and afro) check other non-AA for sounding real stupid in their thinking about us.  Sometimes we agree and sometimes we don't.   I personally love to have this discussion and continue having it so we can understand each other.  I feel like we have a better shot that way as black people.  Let's fight about it!


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Feb 18 2014 at 9:24am
Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:


Don't give a fuk.
The Africans and Coconuts go hard in threads all that time often loud and wrong as hell.
 
but AA supposed to be quiet .
nah



LOL, I wasn't asking you to be quiet, I actually addressed you directly instead of coochiefooting around it, except for one poster who asked you to speak on it. If you're gonna bring the conversation in this direction, then you have to address ALL OF THE ANGLES. I actually agree with you to some extent, it just annoys me that you don't seem to see the other side of it.



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