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Posted By: NARSAddict
Subject: In I mean really Florida, really? news
Date Posted: Jan 13 2014 at 11:29pm
Off all of my pet peeves, texting in the movie theaters ain't one of them.  I rather someone do that than talking on the phone all through the movie.  The shooter was acting like his phone was an LED light.  I swear people are just fcking ill. 


Retired cop guns down man for texting at Florida movie: sheriff

WFLA-TV

Police stand outside a Wesley Chapel, Fla., movie theater where a fatal shooting occurred Monday.

By M. Alex Johnson, Staff Writer, NBC News

A retired cop, irked that the couple in front of him were texting at a Mark Wahlberg war movie, opened fire in a Florida theater Monday, killing the man and wounding his wife, authorities said.

Curtis Reeves Jr., 71, was charged with second-degree homicide in the death of Chad Oulson, 43, Pasco County Sheriff Chris Nocco said late Monday afternoon. The theater was evacuated and remained closed after the shooting, which occurred about 1:20 p.m. ET.

Oulson was shot in the chest after a verbal and physical confrontation with Reeves, and his wife, Nichole Oulson, was shot in the hand. Chad Oulson was pronounced dead at a hospital, and his wife was treated for non-life-threatening injuries.

"To have a retired police officer — I don't know what he was thinking at the time," Nocco told reporters. "I can tell you, anybody, over a cellphone, to take their life, it's ridiculous."

An off-duty sheriff's deputy from neighboring Sumter County was in the Grove 16 Theatre in Wesley Chapel, north of Tampa, and detained Reeves and secured the weapon, described as a .380-calber handgun, until Pasco authorities arrived, Nocco said.

"He was a true hero in there. He reacted," said Nocco, who also praised the efforts of two nurses who were in the theater and tried to save Oulson's life.

NBC News

Nocco said that when when the first emergency calls came in, his mind immediately turned to recent shootings at schools and movie theaters, an apparent reference to the mass killings at a theater in Aurora, Colo., in July 2012, and at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., just five months later.

"Hearing what we heard, we were prepared for a large incident, but I want to reiterate this was just an isolated incident," he said.

"This situation over a cellphone use — to escalate that high, I can tell you it's very scary," he said. "Or the fact it's a movie theater or, you know, a place such as a school, where people have a belief that they should be in a movie theater to relax or a school to learn and have it arise to this kind of level."

Nocco said the tragedy unfolded after Reeves became outraged over something trivial: "somebody texting."

Reeves and his wife were sitting behind the Oulsons as the preview trailers were rolling just before the showing of "Lone Survivor," the Mark Wahlberg movie about a failed 2007 Navy Seal raid in Afghanistan, investigators said.

Reeves asked Chad Oulson several times to stop, to no avail, Nocco said. He then left the theater to complain to the theater's management before returning to his seat, the sheriff said.

Upon his return, "Chad Oulson then starts confronting him verbally, starts saying: 'Oh, did you go in there and start complaining on me? Did you tell the staff about me?'" Nocco said.

"This verbal altercation starts getting louder and louder. During this altercation, it goes from a verbal to a physical altercation," he said.

Then, "the suspect, Curtis Reeves, pulled out a gun," Nocco said.

Only one shot was fired, Nocco said. Nichole Oulson was wounded in the hand when she grabbed her husband as Reeves pulled the trigger, he said.


The theater's operator, Cobb Theatres, said in a statement that it was "truly heartbroken by this incident" and that it was cooperating with investigators.

Reeves retired as a captain from the Tampa Police Department in 1993, said Laura McElroy, a spokeswoman for the department, adding that Reeves helped set up the department's first SWAT team.

"We are not aware of any contact with the department since his departure more than 20 years ago," she said in a statement.





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Posted By: femmefatale85
Date Posted: Jan 13 2014 at 11:29pm
what were the races of those involved? just skimmed


Posted By: DiorShowGirl
Date Posted: Jan 13 2014 at 11:39pm
yeah this was featured on the news tonight......so sad...

i'm gonna start calling Florida...THE OK CORRAL ..cause it seems anyone can carry a gun down there and start shootin' up places and at people...dayum


Posted By: bindy
Date Posted: Jan 13 2014 at 11:41pm
oh boy....The shooter is probably going to say he thought the texter had a gun and he (the shooter) was "standing his ground".


Posted By: sexyandfamous
Date Posted: Jan 13 2014 at 11:45pm
HOW THE HELL WAS HE ALLOWED ON A MOVIE THEATER WITH A GUN??

i don't care what is his race, he has to be arrested

...but I guessed white and I was right... glad the man shot was white - if he were black, it would have been self-defense, because black men can use a cell phone as a weapon.


Posted By: harley_quinn
Date Posted: Jan 13 2014 at 11:47pm
What a horrible way to die over something so petty. The movie didn't even start so why was this old yt man so pressed about texting through previews, he could've moved his damn seat.

I support bootlegs and streaming.


Posted By: Girl101
Date Posted: Jan 13 2014 at 11:53pm
Originally posted by femmefatale85 femmefatale85 wrote:

what were the races of those involved? just skimmed
 
They were white.


Posted By: TexturizedDiva
Date Posted: Jan 13 2014 at 11:55pm


Posted By: PurplePhase
Date Posted: Jan 14 2014 at 12:21am
My sis in Tampa sent me this article earlier today. Scary times.   

I read that he was texting w his 3yr old daughter. That wasnt clear tho. Maybe texting to her thru a sitter??


Posted By: 305bgirl
Date Posted: Jan 14 2014 at 2:44am
I saw this on the news earlier. I do hate that backlight when people text in theatres but not that much.


Posted By: liesnalibis
Date Posted: Jan 14 2014 at 3:10am
It says he shot him after the confrontation got physical. The way the news title made it seem was like the old man saw him texting and just pulled out a gun and shot him. I hate when the news tries to simplify things and make them seem more trivial than they really were.


Posted By: Oladunni
Date Posted: Jan 14 2014 at 6:10am
^excuse me.... i don't give a what went down.. that old dude.. should've never pulled his gun out.. shot this 40 yr old man in the chest and his wife in the hand... Taken someone's life over a damn cell phone.... and i didn't hear about anything physical. ( didn't read the article) they said it was verbal , popcorn was thrown and then shots went off...


Posted By: Naturalchick30
Date Posted: Jan 14 2014 at 6:42am
He should've just moved to another seat if he was that annoyed...


Posted By: GG
Date Posted: Jan 14 2014 at 6:50am
I swear some people just run around hoping to get into confrontations so they can use their guns. What was the point? No one could've walked away?


Posted By: liesnalibis
Date Posted: Jan 14 2014 at 9:01am
Originally posted by Oladunni Oladunni wrote:

^excuse me.... i don't give a what went down.. that old dude.. should've never pulled his gun out.. shot this 40 yr old man in the chest and his wife in the hand... Taken someone's life over a damn cell phone.... and i didn't hear about anything physical. ( didn't read the article) they said it was verbal , popcorn was thrown and then shots went off...

Sleepy


Posted By: GoodGirlGoneGr8
Date Posted: Jan 14 2014 at 9:13am
Over a cell phone? Ppl are really nuts these days.

And he's a former cop? Yeah, he'll have a grand time in jail...


Posted By: tatee
Date Posted: Jan 14 2014 at 9:17am
you can tell the way the article was written that all parties involved were white.


Posted By: BrownQtee
Date Posted: Jan 14 2014 at 9:26am

This is all too much. Now a daughter is without her father because some john wayne ass yt man couldn't keep it together. Lock his old ass up.



Posted By: eanaj5
Date Posted: Jan 14 2014 at 3:28pm
i just went to see this saturday.
had my phone out and surfed the web with 0 fcks given for most of the movie.
How the hell can u see a phone light if ur sitting behind someone unless they're holding it up at eye level?

dont drop the soap officer stupid Sleepy


Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Jan 14 2014 at 5:14pm
Originally posted by sexyandfamous sexyandfamous wrote:

HOW THE HELL WAS HE ALLOWED ON A MOVIE THEATER WITH A GUN??

i don't care what is his race, he has to be arrested

...but I guessed white and I was right... glad the man shot was white - if he were black, it would have been self-defense, because black men can use a cell phone as a weapon.
Guuurl! You gotta watch Black men. They got that magic and can turn cell phones into guns.Dead

And the thug who killed the texting man was neighborhood crime watch captain smh.


Posted By: bindy
Date Posted: Jan 17 2014 at 6:14am

'Why didn't he just sit somewhere else?' Sheriff rips apart 'Stand Your Ground' defense of ex-cop who shot dead father for texting in movie theater

  • Sheriff says there is no chance for a 'Stand Your Ground' defense
  • Sheriff Chris Nocco has dismissed Curtis Reeves' claims that he shot the victim out of fear
  • Reeves shot 43-year-old Chad Oulson in the chest after a confrontation
  • Nicole Oulson was shot in the hand as she tried to protect her husband
  • Terrified movie-goers say they heard arguing and saw popcorn being thrown before gun was fired
  • Reeves claims he feared for his safety after being hit by an unknown object
  • 71-year-old, who is facing life in prison, appeared in 'suicide smock' during video link court hearing

By  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=Will+Payne+In+Lake+O+Lakes,+Florida" rel="nofollow - WILL PAYNE IN LAKE O' LAKES, FLORIDA

PUBLISHED: 22:35 EST, 16 January 2014 UPDATED: 23:10 EST, 16 January 2014

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2541044/Why-didnt-just-sit-Sheriff-rips-apart-Stand-Your-Ground-defence-ex-cop-shot-dead-father-texting-movie-theater.html#comments" rel="nofollow -

The Sheriff leading the investigation into the cinema shooting which happened after a row over texting has told MailOnline there is no chance of a Stand Your Ground defence, saying, ‘It was an empty movie theatre. If he was scared why didn’t he move seats?’.

Sheriff Chris Nocco has completely dismissed shooter Curtis Reeves’ claims that he gunned down Chad Oulson because he feared for his safety and said there is no way he can use Florida’s controversial self-defence law.

He is convinced the retired cop, 71, simply lost his temper after married father-of-one Oulson refused to stop texting and then threw a bag of popcorn at his killer’s face.

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Dismissed: Sheriff Chris Nocco doesnt buy Curtis Reeves claim that he shot Chad Oulson in self defense
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Dismissed: Sheriff Chris Nocco doesn't buy Curtis Reeves' claim that he shot Chad Oulson in self defense

Pasco County Sheriff Chris Nocco (C) speaks to the media as police tape surrounds the Cobb Grove 16 movie theater in Wesley Chapel, Florida
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Pasco County Sheriff Chris Nocco (C) speaks to the media as police tape surrounds the Cobb Grove 16 movie theater in Wesley Chapel, Florida

Charges: Reeves, wearing a green suicide smock appears via video link at a hearing on Tuesday
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Charges: Reeves, wearing a green 'suicide smock' appears via video link at a hearing on Tuesday

Deadly shooting: Chad and Nicole Oulson (pictured with their three-year-old daughter) were shot in a movie theater over cell phone texting
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Deadly shooting: Chad and Nicole Oulson (pictured with their three-year-old daughter) were shot in a movie theater over cell phone texting

Reeves’ attorney Richard Escobar suggested on Wednesday that his client was not hit with popcorn and was actually attacked with another more dangerous object.

However Sheriff Nocco has completely dismissed that idea, saying nothing else was thrown and that Monday’s shooting is an open and shut case.

Speaking to MailOnline the Pasco County Sheriff said: ‘Stand Your Ground is a hot topic in Florida. Even if you have a clear Stand Your Ground case then you still have to work incredibly hard to prove that is valid.

‘So from our perspective, if we think it is going to be used as a defence we have to prove why it’s not relevant. We immediately brought in our states attorney’s office to work with us after Monday’s shooting.

‘I remember very clearly that we stood outside the movie theatre, got all the detectives over and said, ‘what do we think we’ve got here? Is this a Stand Your Ground case?’ Everyone said, no way, this is not Stand Your Ground. 

‘One of the key elements is that the theater was not packed so there was ample opportunity for anybody to move their seat if they wanted to.

‘From our investigation it seems simply that the agitation of someone using their cell phone to text has caused this. 

All the evidence and witness statements we have point that way.

‘The suspect was sitting there, they had an argument about texting, the victim turned around, threw something, a shot is fired and the next thing you know a man is dead.’

Support: Family and friends of Reeves attend his Tuesday morning hearing
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Support: Family and friends of Reeves attend his Tuesday morning hearing

Richard Escobar, the attorney for Reeves, talks to reporters after his clients first hearing
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Richard Escobar, the attorney for Reeves, talks to reporters after his client's first hearing

Stoic: Retired police captain Reeves barely spoke during the short hearing
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Stoic: Retired police captain Reeves barely spoke during the short hearing

Former Tampa Bay police captain, Reeves was in the Wesley Chapel theater with his wife Vivian watching ‘Lone 

Survivor’ when he asked Oulson to stop using his phone.

Oulson, 43 – who was with his wife Nicole – was texting the babysitter looking after his two-year-old daughter Lexy and he refused to stop. 

Reeves went out to get a manager, came back alone and continued the row. Nocco explained: ‘We believe the manager didn’t have a full conversation with the individual because he was dealing with other customers.

‘But the fact the suspect had the ability to go and see the manager, shows he had the ability to move his seat.’

Soon after the row restarted, Oulson threw a bag of popcorn in Reeves face and the older man drew a pistol from his pocket. 

Nicole Oulson desperately tried to shield her husband, but Reeves fired his weapon and the bullet passed through her outstretched hand and hit Oulson in the chest. 

Reeves then placed the gun on his thigh and calmly sat down, before being restrained by an off-duty deputy. His gun was jammed when it was recovered and investigators are not sure whether he tried to fire a second time.

Sheriff Nocco said: ‘After he shot his weapon he put it down. It was jammed when he put it down on his thigh. 

‘I can’t tell you if he was trying to shoot again, or what he was doing. We will look at the gun to see what happened In the future, but that isn’t relevant to the second degree murder charge at present.’

Today Richard Escobar was quoted as saying something more than popcorn was thrown. He told The Tampa Bay Times: ‘If it was popcorn, don't you think the detective would have written popcorn? It's an unknown object, dark in color. Those facts will come out.’

But Nocco hit back: ‘There is absolutely nothing to prove anything else was thrown.’

Since the shooting a couple, Jamira and Michael Dixon have said they had a run in with Reeves in the same cinema back in December after they used their cell phone.

Senseless killing: Nicole Oulson was shot in the hand and Chad Oulson shot fatally in the chest
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Senseless killing: Nicole Oulson was shot in the hand and Chad Oulson shot fatally in the chest

Sheriff Nocco says they are looking into the claims and they could help the case against father-of-two Reeves.

He said: ‘Other people are now saying this happened to them. We are currently trying to verify those statements, using credit card statements to make sure they were definitely at the movies when they said they were. If we can verify that then it gives us even more to go on.’

Devastated Nicole was released from hospital on Monday evening. She had surgery on her hand on Wednesday and has now returned to the family home in Land O Lakes. Over the past few days a steady stream of relatives have arrived at the property to look after her and Lexy.

The family has said very little since the tragedy, but Chad Oulson’s sister Kip Hoosier did talk to The Quincy Herald Whig, based in her home state of Illinois, earlier this week. 

Describing her brother, she said: ‘He loved to have fun. He was a joker, a kidder. He smiled and laughed all the time.

‘He works in a motorcycle shop. He was an avid motorcycle rider, a dirtbike rider, but he gave that up when his wife got pregnant with their baby to be a father and not be so daring with his life.’

Describing the terrible moment Nicole broke the news to Chad’s mother, Kip said: ‘It happened at 1 p.m. Nicole was on the phone with my mom before a quarter after. She wasn’t at the hospital. She was still at the theater. 

‘It was completely senseless, just a sad situation. We haven’t even dealt with the reality of it yet.’

Her brother’s killer is currently being held in Land O’ Lakes jail after he was denied bail at a court hearing on Tuesday.

He appeared before Circuit Judge Lynn Tepper in Pasco County via video conference, standing at a podium wearing an olive-colored padded vest and handcuffs.

Richard Escobar told the court that Reeves has close ties to the community, posed no danger to residents and was no threat to flee.

Later, outside the courtroom, Escobar told reporters his client was "heartbroken" that a life was lost in the shooting.

Reeves served in the Navy and the Navy Reserves before joining the Tampa Police Department in 1966, where he was a commander for around 17 years. He also worked as a homicide detective, property crimes detective and instructor.

He retired in 1993 as captain. Tampa police told CNN that he was instrumental in establishing the department's first Tactical Response Team - also known as SWAT.

Throughout his career, he consistently received good evaluations, praising his work ethic and leadership. 

A 1992 evaluation states: 'Capt. Reeves is highly adept at recognizing potential problems and utilizing available information to achieve positive results. He is frequently called upon to develop and implement department-wide programs concerning firearms and civil disorder.' 

He also worked on several high-profile security details, including those of presidential candidate Ross Perot, Vice President Dan Quayle, President Ronald Reagan, Vice President George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton.

He was rarely criticized, but in 1971, his supervisors said he needed to make a "marked improvement" after he demonstrated a "get-by attitude".

In 1979 an evaluation cited problems with his temperament. It stated: 'His demeanor is generally very professional.

He has, however, occasionally allowed his temper to detrimentally affect his manner of dealing with his supervisors.'

Following his retirement, he served as director of security for Busch Gardens Tampa until 2005. WFLA has reported that the keen hunter served as president of the Hernando County Crime Stoppers program from 2006 to 2007. He has been married to his wife, Vivian, since 1967 and as well as son Matthew, they have a daughter called Jennifer and one grandchild.

Chad’s former colleagues at Sky Power Sports have set up a  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2541044/www.facebook.com/chadoulsonfamilyfund" rel="nofollow - Facebook page  to raise money for Nicole and Lexy.


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Posted By: eanaj5
Date Posted: Jan 17 2014 at 6:18am
cuz a 6'5 full grown white man is not a threatbut a 5'11/6'0 tall teenager minding his business was...


Posted By: GG
Date Posted: Jan 17 2014 at 7:25am
This is just tragic. Some people really don't need guns.


Posted By: iliveforbhm
Date Posted: Jan 17 2014 at 7:35am
Europeans running back to that cave life.


Posted By: creole booty
Date Posted: Jan 17 2014 at 8:48am
Is that buff dude the sheriff? I wasn't sure.

White people and their guns...


Posted By: f8dagrate
Date Posted: Jan 17 2014 at 9:31am
Originally posted by creole booty creole booty wrote:

Is that buff dude the sheriff? I wasn't sure.

White people and their guns...


and he can get it!Shocked


Posted By: KittenWhip
Date Posted: Jan 17 2014 at 10:00am
This is one of the many, many reasons that I don't go to the movies.  Netflix is my movie theatre.


Posted By: FarraFace
Date Posted: Jan 17 2014 at 10:04am
Originally posted by eanaj5 eanaj5 wrote:

cuz a 6'5 full grown white man is not a threat but a 5'11/6'0 tall teenager minding his business was...

For real. Throwing stuff in a dark theater, that could have been battery acid. I hope dude walks, let white folk get mad. Of course he won't though.

And now they are trying to find more instances of similar behavior in this retired officer's past, but they couldn't bring up the past instances of GZ racially profiling 5 year old boys? Man, fcuk Florida.


Posted By: GG
Date Posted: Jan 22 2014 at 6:29am
Claudius Smith Claims Self-Defense After Chasing And Shooting Possible Burglar: Orlando Police
01/20/14 11:22 AM ET
Get ready for "Stand Your Ground, Part 2."

Police say an Orlando man is claiming self-defense after fatally shooting a man that he saw walking through his front yard.


Claudius Smith


Ricardo Sanes


Claudius Smith was charged with second-degree murder on Friday for the death of Ricardo Sanes, 21, TV station WOFL reported.

Sanes' body was found with multiple gunshot wounds on Thursday morning in an apartment complex near Smith's home.

Smith, 32, sprang out of his home after his girlfriend Angela Kemraj told him she'd seen someone on a surveillance monitor crossing their lawn, the Orlando Sentinel reported.

Kemraj told police she saw Smith leave the house and hop a fence in pursuit. Following his arrest at his sister's apartment, Smith allegedly admitted to the shooting, the Sentinel reported in a subsequent article.

A police report obtained by the Sentinel indicated that Smith told officers he'd had a recent problem with burglaries and that he was certain Sanes was the culprit. Smith pulled his gun when he confronted Sanes. A fight broke out, with Sanes allegedly throwing the first punch. Fearing that Sanes was reaching for a gun, Smith opened fire, he told police.

Investigators say they found a gun stuffed in Sanes' pants. But police examining his body surmised that he had been shot in the back, which may cast doubt on Smith's account.

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Posted By: tatee
Date Posted: Jan 22 2014 at 6:40am
i think that guy got killed for taking a short cut. dude that shot him was just waiting to use that gun.  you dont jump over a fence and chase down someone for walking through your yard.





Posted By: NARSAddict
Date Posted: Jan 22 2014 at 1:00pm
Originally posted by GG GG wrote:

Claudius Smith Claims Self-Defense After Chasing And Shooting Possible Burglar: Orlando Police
01/20/14 11:22 AM ET
Get ready for "Stand Your Ground, Part 2."

Police say an Orlando man is claiming self-defense after fatally shooting a man that he saw walking through his front yard.


Claudius Smith


Ricardo Sanes


Claudius Smith was charged with second-degree murder on Friday for the death of Ricardo Sanes, 21, TV station WOFL reported.

Sanes' body was found with multiple gunshot wounds on Thursday morning in an apartment complex near Smith's home.

Smith, 32, sprang out of his home after his girlfriend Angela Kemraj told him she'd seen someone on a surveillance monitor crossing their lawn, the Orlando Sentinel reported.

Kemraj told police she saw Smith leave the house and hop a fence in pursuit. Following his arrest at his sister's apartment, Smith allegedly admitted to the shooting, the Sentinel reported in a subsequent article.

A police report obtained by the Sentinel indicated that Smith told officers he'd had a recent problem with burglaries and that he was certain Sanes was the culprit. Smith pulled his gun when he confronted Sanes. A fight broke out, with Sanes allegedly throwing the first punch. Fearing that Sanes was reaching for a gun, Smith opened fire, he told police.

Investigators say they found a gun stuffed in Sanes' pants. But police examining his body surmised that he had been shot in the back, which may cast doubt on Smith's account.

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What in the entire phuck?


Posted By: PeacefulOne
Date Posted: Jan 22 2014 at 1:03pm
Originally posted by eanaj5 eanaj5 wrote:

i just went to see this saturday.
had my phone out and surfed the web with 0 fcks given for most of the movie.
How the hell can u see a phone light if ur sitting behind someone unless they're holding it up at eye level?


And this is why I don't go the theater anymore, nobody seems to give a sh1t, that crap is annoying as hell

That said, this is really sad, and you never know who is on the edge. Either side. ~Sprays valium in the room~


Posted By: nitabug
Date Posted: Jan 22 2014 at 3:06pm
I dim my light...

and sheriff chris is cute


Posted By: iliveforbhm
Date Posted: Jan 22 2014 at 3:16pm
If the nice floridians didn't realize the primal tribal animalistic culture amongst them, than serves them right. Fcuk I'm going to be in Hill Billy land because it got nice beaches and sand. Shieeet nicca



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