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Posted By: tatee
Subject: Healthy but Overweight is a Myth
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 6:41am
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'Healthy Obesity' Is a Myth, Report Says

Researchers weigh results of 8 studies, find excess pounds raise death risk over time

Monday, December 2, 2013

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MONDAY, Dec. 2, 2013 (HealthDay News) -- The notion that some people can be overweight or obese and still remain healthy is a myth, according to a new Canadian study.

Even without high blood pressure, diabetes or other metabolic issues, overweight and obese people have higher rates of death, heart attack and stroke after 10 years compared with their thinner counterparts, the researchers found.

"These data suggest that increased body weight is not a benign condition, even in the absence of metabolic abnormalities, and argue against the concept of healthy obesity or benign obesity," said researcher Dr. Ravi Retnakaran, an associate professor of medicine at the University of Toronto.

The terms healthy obesity and benign obesity have been used to describe people who are obese but don't have the abnormalities that typically accompany obesity, such as high blood pressure, high blood sugar and high cholesterol, Retnakaran explained.

"We found that metabolically healthy obese individuals are indeed at increased risk for death and cardiovascular events over the long term as compared with metabolically healthy normal-weight individuals," he added.

It's possible that obese people who appear metabolically healthy have low levels of some risk factors that worsen over time, the researchers suggest in the report, published online Dec. 3 in the Annals of Internal Medicine.

Dr. David Katz, director of the Yale University Prevention Research Center, welcomed the report. "Given the recent attention to the 'obesity paradox' in the professional literature and pop culture alike, this is a very timely and important paper," Katz said. (The obesity paradox holds that certain people benefit from chronic obesity.)

Some obese people appear healthy because not all weight gain is harmful, Katz said. "It depends partly on genes, partly on the source of calories, partly on activity levels, partly on hormone levels. Weight gain in the lower extremities among younger women tends to be metabolically harmless; weight gain as fat in the liver can be harmful at very low levels," Katz said.

A number of things, however, work to increase the risk of heart attack, stroke and death over time, he added.

"In particular, fat in the liver interferes with its function and insulin sensitivity," Katz said. This starts a domino effect, he explained. "Insensitivity to insulin causes the pancreas to compensate by raising insulin output. Higher insulin levels affect other hormones in a cascade that causes inflammation. Fight-or-flight hormones are affected, raising blood pressure. Liver dysfunction also impairs blood cholesterol levels," Katz said.

In general the things people do to make themselves fitter and healthier tend to make them less fat, he added.

"Lifestyle practices conducive to weight control over the long term are generally conducive to better overall health as well. I favor a focus on finding health over a focus on losing weight," Katz noted.

For the study, Retnakaran's team reviewed eight studies that looked at differences between obese or overweight people and slimmer people in terms of their health and risk for heart attack, stroke and death. These studies included more than 61,000 people overall.

In studies with follow-ups of a decade or more, those who were overweight or obese but didn't have high blood pressure, heart disease or diabetes still had a 24 percent increased risk for heart attack, stroke and death over 10 years or more, compared with normal-weight people, the researchers found.

Greater risk for heart attack, stroke and death was seen among all those with metabolic disease (such as high cholesterol and high blood sugar) regardless of weight, the researchers noted.

As a result, doctors should consider both body mass and metabolic tests when evaluating someone's health risks, the researchers concluded.

SOURCES: Ravi Retnakaran M.D., associate professor, department of medicine, University of Toronto, Canada; David Katz, M.D., M.P.H., director, Yale University Prevention Research Center, New Haven, Conn.; Dec. 3, 2013, Annals of Internal Medicine, online

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Posted By: patternsandtexture
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 6:47am
Anti fat thread, let the battle begin


Posted By: Naturalchick30
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 6:59am
Geek


Posted By: ModelessDiva
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 7:06am


ain't nobody tryna hear this

fat is fabulous *snaps fingers*



Posted By: ModelessDiva
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 7:16am


dang OP...



Posted By: _ConcreteRose_
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 7:23am
I hate to be the math/logic Nazi here. But a higher rate of something doesnt imply that the opposite is a myth. Example: a there is a higher rate of unemployment in Nevada Than in Maryland.that doesn't mean being employed in Nevada is a myth.

I hate click bait titles like this. Anyway the results of The study don't surprise me. That still doesn't mean that day people MUST be miserable/unloved/whatever else people claim all big people are.


Posted By: Lady ICE
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 7:30am
Geek its too early for this lol.


Posted By: GG
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 7:36am
There's a study for EVERYTHING. They aren't gonna stop people from doing what they want. Meh.


Posted By: patternsandtexture
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 7:48am
I cooked some amazing tilapia yesterday wonderful.


Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 7:49am
bhm hates all studies. lol  all.


Posted By: patternsandtexture
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 7:54am
At least they give you some receipts on these studies and not some these are my studies and my conclusion is.... BS

But it's too early for the fat shaming


Posted By: HaitianDiva64
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 8:05am
So basically it depends on where you gain the weight.

Like dr. Oz said butt and thigh fat are ok belly and back is not


Posted By: patternsandtexture
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 8:09am
Yeah, belly fat is bad and I know people who only gain there.


Posted By: newdiva1
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 8:13am
*read's header*
 
 
 
 
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Posted By: femmemichelle
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 8:16am
Can I just have the butt fat? I don't really get belly fat. My weight is distributed evenly just about everywhere.


Posted By: maysay1
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 8:21am
Bhm is soooo late. The rest of the internet already wrote dissertations on this.

Anyway, no such thing as fit fat...but there's also no way to cure obesity so everyone loses. May as well enjoy your favorite foods while you're here.


Posted By: hauteshellbi
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 8:31am
#teamhamhock
im going on a diet 1/1/14 though Geek


Posted By: Derri
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 8:40am
The society is structured in a way such that the cheapest ingredients with the least amount of nutrients are used in popular foods and are very accessible (to the poor esp.)

I have a wider thought..but..




Posted By: patternsandtexture
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 8:42am
Temporary diets don't work but life changing diets do


Posted By: Brjasuga51
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 9:38am
#faceinpalm#


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 9:47am
Originally posted by patternsandtexture patternsandtexture wrote:

Temporary diets don't work but life changing diets do

They do.
But going back to your old eating habits after you've lost weight doesn't.


Posted By: ThoughtCouture
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 9:53am
Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

bhm hates all studies. lol  all.
 
LOL i think that's because any ole knuckle head can perform one...


Posted By: patternsandtexture
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 11:35am
Originally posted by Sang Froid Sang Froid wrote:

Originally posted by patternsandtexture patternsandtexture wrote:

Temporary diets don't work but life changing diets do


They do.
But going back to your old eating habits after you've lost weight doesn't.


You know what I meant boo


Posted By: yaya24
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 11:36am
Agreed


Posted By: Miss SDY
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 11:42am
*waits for thread to implode on itself*

I'm not saying the study isn't valid but you all already know the hand basket to hell is already docked and waiting on this thread.

Topics of this nature never seem to end well..


Posted By: petiteone29
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 11:59am
Being overweight or underweight isn't healthy. It is what it is.


Posted By: colemlrch
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 2:03pm
^^But it's always on a case by case basis.... Genetics are genetics which the study said. If higher body fat and lower disease is hereditary for someone this study is null/void...ijs the same goes for the opposite if you're predisposed to high blood pressure/diabetes ion care how much you run and eat healthy it is what it is sooner or later *shrugs*
Credentials:Junior PreMed Biology Philosophy Double major currently failing genetics


Posted By: patternsandtexture
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 2:08pm
Failing genetics? Have a million seats honey


Posted By: Naturalchick30
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 2:08pm
Originally posted by colemlrch colemlrch wrote:

^^But it's always on a case by case basis.... Genetics are genetics which the study said. If higher body fat and lower disease is hereditary for someone this study is null/void...ijs the same goes for the opposite if you're predisposed to high blood pressure/diabetes ion care how much you run and eat healthy it is what it is sooner or later *shrugs*
Credentials:Junior PreMed Biology Philosophy Double major currently failing genetics
This


Posted By: colemlrch
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 2:38pm
Originally posted by patternsandtexture patternsandtexture wrote:

Failing genetics? Have a million seats honey
I'm sorry have you any knowledge of the intricacy of the human genome and all it's vastness? Do you even know what a gene is? I'm curious cuz I will gladly take a seat if you have something to teach me while I sit. I don't like being idle...


Posted By: patternsandtexture
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 2:40pm
Originally posted by colemlrch colemlrch wrote:

Originally posted by patternsandtexture patternsandtexture wrote:

Failing genetics? Have a million seats honey
I'm sorry have you any knowledge of the intricacy of the human genome and all it's vastness? Do you even know what a gene is? I'm curious cuz I will gladly take a seat if you have something to teach me while I sit. I don't like being idle...
 
Iono u tellz me


Posted By: colemlrch
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 2:56pm
Originally posted by patternsandtexture patternsandtexture wrote:

Originally posted by colemlrch colemlrch wrote:

Originally posted by patternsandtexture patternsandtexture wrote:

Failing genetics? Have a million seats honey
I'm sorry have you any knowledge of the intricacy of the human genome and all it's vastness? Do you even know what a gene is? I'm curious cuz I will gladly take a seat if you have something to teach me while I sit. I don't like being idle...


 

Iono u tellz me
Oh ok then you can occupy one of those millions of seats while I tell you a lil something about genetics. Everything about you is coded by these teeny tiny nucleotide sequences called genes. They make up ur chromosomes. They are passed down hereditarily and tell your body how to develop. Soooo here's the kicker if your genes have the code for high blood pressure guess what? [insert crowd participation].... failing is not congruent with idiot nice try though doll


Posted By: patternsandtexture
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 3:12pm
Thank you for telling me about biology 101 which I got an A. Now explain why you are failing genetics?


Posted By: colemlrch
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 3:34pm
^^yes. It means that there's no solidarity in the results statistically enough to say ALL or EVERY... Which is kinda what I'm saying.


Posted By: colemlrch
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 3:41pm
Originally posted by patternsandtexture patternsandtexture wrote:

Thank you for telling me about biology 101 which I got an A. Now explain why you are failing genetics?
Cuz all my grades aren't in yet and I'd be lying if I said different. So you do know about genes! Great then you'd know how complex they are and we have about 23000 of them and millions of cells/proteins that they code for I'm sure you can sense some level of difficulty in the study of such, no? Oh and my professors second language is English go figure. Guess you can put passed an intro level Biology class as your credentials next time... I certainly wouldn't have come for you about it.


Posted By: SoutherNtellect
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 3:46pm
genetics sucks and research sucks x 2





Posted By: colemlrch
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 3:46pm
Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:

Originally posted by colemlrch colemlrch wrote:

^^yes. It means that there's no solidarity in the results statistically enough to say ALL or EVERY... Which is kinda what I'm saying.


you can rarely say that though

this isn't an experiment

EXACTLY my point. Who knows the variables etc? It's a little more to it I think than hey let's get fat people and skinny people in a room and check their blood pressures and insulin levels. This study is just a bit fallacious in the hasty generalizations being made you know? Just my opinion though.


Posted By: colemlrch
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 3:51pm
Originally posted by SoutherNtellect SoutherNtellect wrote:

genetics sucks and research sucks x 2



They don't hear me though... sh*t ain't a cake walk for one of the 3 black people in the class that's actually interested in learning material and not cheating to pass smh... What kind of research are you doing/have done?


Posted By: sexyandfamous
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 3:52pm
i think if the person is having a hard time walking - she is not healthy.
if she can't go up the stairs without sweating and having difficulty breathing - she is not healthy.
if she has several layers of fat all over the place, she is not healthy. you cannot be healthy when you have a lot of extra fat all over the place.


Posted By: colemlrch
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 3:57pm
Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:



I actually agree with you that is does not apply to everyone

I just don't think that makes it invaild
Absolutely not! But it's kinda common sense ain't nobody bed ridden and weighing a ton talmbout my pressure is 120/80 and I'm not on a million medications. Being active and eating correctly is the key not ooo girl I gained 10 lbs I'ma stroke out now. That's bs and for people that can't critically think for themselves they eat it up and justify degrading larger people with bs stats like this. It's kinda sick nobody does skinny people like that and they DON'T do anything to promote their health bc they read stuff like this. It's about HEALTH not WEIGHT. Ijs *daintily steps off soapbox*


Posted By: patternsandtexture
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 4:01pm
Yeah, because every black girl is trying to be thick(fat)


Posted By: SoutherNtellect
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 4:05pm
Originally posted by colemlrch colemlrch wrote:

Originally posted by SoutherNtellect SoutherNtellect wrote:

genetics sucks and research sucks x 2



They don't hear me though... sh*t ain't a cake walk for one of the 3 black people in the class that's actually interested in learning material and not cheating to pass smh... What kind of research are you doing/have done?


most of my research was psychiatry related
ive never been so bored but i did learn you can manipulate the results to say what you want it to


Posted By: AmiliaCabral
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 4:13pm
meh we all gotta go

So let me go make this rib and pork chop milkshake asap 


Posted By: colemlrch
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 4:24pm
Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:


I'm sure there are numerous studies on eating disorders wherein people end up starving themselves

but this is a black site and well, many don't have that problem/aren't interested in that

I'm not even talking disorders though cuz something we know is mentally wrong. I'm talking genetically skinny people that eat more/more burgers pies shakes n fries than genetically larger people but think being skinny means oh I'm straight! *guzzles 2liter soda* no ma'am you're not! but nobody talks about that though. Instead of tryna tell every fat person you're gonna die tomorrow educate EVETYBODY on proper health habits ya feel me?


Posted By: colemlrch
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 4:25pm
Originally posted by SoutherNtellect SoutherNtellect wrote:

Originally posted by colemlrch colemlrch wrote:

Originally posted by SoutherNtellect SoutherNtellect wrote:

genetics sucks and research sucks x 2



They don't hear me though... sh*t ain't a cake walk for one of the 3 black people in the class that's actually interested in learning material and not cheating to pass smh... What kind of research are you doing/have done?



most of my research was psychiatry related
ive never been so bored but i did learn you can manipulate the results to say what you want it to
Exactamente!


Posted By: colemlrch
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 4:30pm
I guarantee she's overweight and thick... Why is she not healthy bc of her weight? Thick doesn't equal fat on the brink of heRt failure just like skinny doesn't equal fit picture of heaLth period.


Posted By: GG
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 4:37pm
What is pockets&tissues trying to get at?


Posted By: maysay1
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 4:42pm
That just reminds me of that thread way back about that black dancer who was 200lbs and everybody was saying she was healthy and fit. She may have looked healthy but as I said then, if you looked at her liver enzymes, cholesterol, insulin response, etc. I bet it would tell a different story.


Posted By: SoutherNtellect
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 4:42pm
a. this is common sense
b. health risk and "healthy" don't go together
c. it's a canadian study. not worth the argument



Posted By: SoutherNtellect
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 4:53pm
Originally posted by maysay1 maysay1 wrote:

That just reminds me of that thread way back about that black dancer who was 200lbs and everybody was saying she was healthy and fit. She may have looked healthy but as I said then, if you looked at her liver enzymes, cholesterol, insulin response, etc. I bet it would tell a different story.

not really, i've had these done + thyroid 2x in the past few years as a part med school, and my levels are normal. my weight, not so much


Posted By: GG
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 4:55pm
Is the point to make obese people go out and change their habits in droves or to make fun of them for the fact that they're gonna die (which we all will)?


Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 4:57pm
Originally posted by colemlrch colemlrch wrote:

I guarantee she's overweight and thick... Why is she not healthy bc of her weight? Thick doesn't equal fat on the brink of heRt failure just like skinny doesn't equal fit picture of heaLth period.

LOL jesus, y'all be doing the most on these hair, dark skin, and weight threads.  theeeee most.


Posted By: SoutherNtellect
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 5:01pm
some of yall more likely to get cardiomyopathy from drinking excessively moreso than heart problems from obesity


Posted By: patternsandtexture
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 5:02pm
Originally posted by GG GG wrote:

What is pockets&tissues trying to get at?


What's your problem oppai?   


Posted By: colemlrch
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 5:04pm
Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

Originally posted by colemlrch colemlrch wrote:

I guarantee she's overweight and thick... Why is she not healthy bc of her weight? Thick doesn't equal fat on the brink of heRt failure just like skinny doesn't equal fit picture of heaLth period.


LOL jesus, y'all be doing the most on these hair, dark skin, and weight threads.  theeeee most.

What's extra about posting a valid example? I don't get it...


Posted By: colemlrch
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 5:07pm
Originally posted by GG GG wrote:

Is the point to make obese people go out and change their habits in droves or to make fun of them for the fact that they're gonna die (which we all will)?
I think it should be 1but stuff like this produces more of 2 sadly..


Posted By: colemlrch
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 5:08pm
Originally posted by SoutherNtellect SoutherNtellect wrote:

some of yall more likely to get cardiomyopathy from drinking excessively moreso than heart problems from obesity
I think I like your brain...


Posted By: patternsandtexture
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 5:09pm
I'm more likely gonna die fighting hordes aliens


Posted By: GG
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 5:10pm
Originally posted by patternsandtexture patternsandtexture wrote:

Originally posted by GG GG wrote:

What is pockets&tissues trying to get at?


What's your problem oppai?   


I'm wondering about your issues although that might be an ongoing quandary.


Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 5:11pm
Originally posted by colemlrch colemlrch wrote:

Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

Originally posted by colemlrch colemlrch wrote:

I guarantee she's overweight and thick... Why is she not healthy bc of her weight? Thick doesn't equal fat on the brink of heRt failure just like skinny doesn't equal fit picture of heaLth period.


LOL jesus, y'all be doing the most on these hair, dark skin, and weight threads.  theeeee most.

What's extra about posting a valid example? I don't get it...

bc you act like they're talking about everyone.  it says being overweight is more likely to develop certain issues.  that's all.  and most won't be a thick perfectly figured hourglass forever, eventually, like all of us that fat will transfer to other places where it's less healthy.  and most ppl considered overweight do not have bodies like that and those considered obese certainly don't.  no one thinks a woman like that at age 28 or 30 is having health problems.


Posted By: patternsandtexture
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 5:11pm
I don't have any issues oppai


Posted By: melikey
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 5:25pm
Obesity and overweight are two different things, I hate how articles nonchalantly mix the two. If the correct terms were used then it wouldn't really be a debate.


Posted By: colemlrch
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 5:42pm
Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:


I don't get the point of posting her

the study says:

"It depends partly on genes, partly on the source of
calories, partly on activity levels, partly on hormone levels. Weight
gain in the lower extremities among younger women tends to be
metabolically harmless; weight gain as fat in the liver can be harmful
at very low levels,


really what was the point?

we will need a large number of woman that look like her to do baseline tests and then follow them over the next 10 years and compare them to women that are considered to be at a healthier weight


Oh ok so who is the baseline subject then? There's no such thing. So u can't say overweight looks like this and not like that when humans vary so much. I posted her for the person that said thick=fat. The picture is worth all the typing I don't feel like doing.


Posted By: colemlrch
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 5:48pm
Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

Originally posted by colemlrch colemlrch wrote:

Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

Originally posted by colemlrch colemlrch wrote:

I guarantee she's overweight and thick... Why is she not healthy bc of her weight? Thick doesn't equal fat on the brink of heRt failure just like skinny doesn't equal fit picture of heaLth period.


LOL jesus, y'all be doing the most on these hair, dark skin, and weight threads.  theeeee most.

What's extra about posting a valid example? I don't get it...


bc you act like they're talking about everyone.  it says being overweight is more likely to develop certain issues.  that's all.  and most won't be a thick perfectly figured hourglass forever, eventually, like all of us that fat will transfer to other places where it's less healthy.  and most ppl considered overweight do not have bodies like that and those considered obese certainly don't.  no one thinks a woman like that at age 28 or 30 is having health problems.

I think y'all are mixing up overweight and obese. Most healthy black women fall into this category and if I get up every morning run and eat great everyday you not gone tell me well you're 30pounds heavier than this white lady we used as the model weight so ur most likely to get this that the 3rd...I'm just calln bs on this raggedy vague ass study there are just too many Ifs, buts, and holes where there should be solid info to support the claim they're making. Ya digg?


Posted By: ModelessDiva
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 6:08pm
Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

bhm hates all studies. lol  all.


Posted By: ModelessDiva
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 6:12pm
Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

LOL jesus, y'all be doing the most on these hair, dark skin, and weight threads.  theeeee most.





Posted By: _ConcreteRose_
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 6:43pm
Originally posted by GG GG wrote:

Is the point to make obese people go out and change their habits in droves or to make fun of them for the fact that they're gonna die (which we all will)?
good question. Not about the study per se, but I often wonder what people who criticize other people's weight plan to get out of their criticism. Maybe someone could explain this too me.


Posted By: nitabug
Date Posted: Dec 09 2013 at 9:29pm
this article talks about future health risks....


Posted By: Printer_Ink
Date Posted: Dec 10 2013 at 8:01am
You have to look at your BMI (Body Mass Index) and this comes in ranges based on your Height as compared to your weight.

A healthy BMI is 25, from 25 - 30 BMI is overweight .. but based on how you are built is okay. Meaning if you have a slim frame (like Nicole Kidmen) 25 is good but if you are built like Serena Williams 29 or 30 is more likely your BMI. But Serena is not fat nor in danger of heart attack.

But if your BMI is over 30 .. you are obese and you have a good chance of getting all those illnesses. So if you are Oprah's size or the size of that girl in 'Precious' (who hs gotten much biggee since that movie BTW), yes, you have to try working on it ... because you will likely have troubles.

IMO just try to stay somewhere between 25 and 30, eat well and exercise and you will be fine.

http://www.healthnetwork.com.au/weight-loss/bmi-chart.asp



Posted By: Naturalchick30
Date Posted: Dec 10 2013 at 8:50am
Here we go with the BMI nonsense again.


Posted By: Lady ICE
Date Posted: Dec 10 2013 at 9:11am
Originally posted by sexyandfamous sexyandfamous wrote:

i think if the person is having a hard time walking - she is not healthy.
if she can't go up the stairs without sweating and having difficulty breathing - she is not healthy.
if she has several layers of fat all over the place, she is not healthy. you cannot be healthy when you have a lot of extra fat all over the place.
i guess im not healthy. i hate stairs and they hate me.LOLAngry

i know lots of healthy fat folks tho. *shrug*


Posted By: beebeexx
Date Posted: Dec 10 2013 at 9:18am
Originally posted by nitabug nitabug wrote:

this article talks about future health risks....


exactly so in essence they're saying thee sack opposite of this thread title lol


Posted By: Naturalchick30
Date Posted: Dec 10 2013 at 9:43am
Originally posted by Lady ICE Lady ICE wrote:

Originally posted by sexyandfamous sexyandfamous wrote:

i think if the person is having a hard time walking - she is not healthy.
if she can't go up the stairs without sweating and having difficulty breathing - she is not healthy.
if she has several layers of fat all over the place, she is not healthy. you cannot be healthy when you have a lot of extra fat all over the place.
i guess im not healthy. i hate stairs and they hate me.LOLAngry

i know lots of healthy fat folks tho. *shrug*
LOL


Posted By: joileprincess
Date Posted: Dec 10 2013 at 10:02am
Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:


sounds like common sense..............*shrugs*

It really is.

I have to tell someone this every time I given them instructions on healthier living and they counter with "Well my bp, cholesterol, blood glucose etc is fine." Its fine for now. The human body will compensate for as long as it is able and if you are young you are better equipped to. Like anything else, it succumbs to normal wear and tear and especially abuse. You will pay for an unhealthy lifestyle, eventually.


Posted By: joileprincess
Date Posted: Dec 10 2013 at 10:06am
If people want to live an unhealthy lifestyle then that is their choice. They however should not be delusional. You are not doing yourself any favors by carrying around excessive fat, consuming an unhealthy diet, and being sedentary. It is what it is. 


Posted By: patternsandtexture
Date Posted: Dec 10 2013 at 10:08am
Drinking blood cures you of all that sedentary lifestyle.


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Dec 10 2013 at 10:14am
Originally posted by Printer_Ink Printer_Ink wrote:

You have to look at your BMI (Body Mass Index) and this comes in ranges based on your Height as compared to your weight.

A healthy BMI is 25, from 25 - 30 BMI is overweight .. but based on how you are built is okay. Meaning if you have a slim frame (like Nicole Kidmen) 25 is good but if you are built like Serena Williams 29 or 30 is more likely your BMI. But Serena is not fat nor in danger of heart attack.

But if your BMI is over 30 .. you are obese and you have a good chance of getting all those illnesses. So if you are Oprah's size or the size of that girl in 'Precious' (who hs gotten much biggee since that movie BTW), yes, you have to try working on it ... because you will likely have troubles.

IMO just try to stay somewhere between 25 and 30, eat well and exercise and you will be fine.

http://www.healthnetwork.com.au/weight-loss/bmi-chart.asp



Bollocks


A better indicator of adipose mass related harm is waist circumference

>101 for women and >106cm for men if I recall correctly, could be slightly lessor more. This has proven to be causative AND correlated to health issues.. Correlation=/= causation thus my AND

And in case you ask.. Yes ive studied this


Posted By: SoutherNtellect
Date Posted: Dec 10 2013 at 1:07pm
Originally posted by joileprincess joileprincess wrote:

If people want to live an unhealthy lifestyle then that is their choice. They however should not be delusional. You are not doing yourself any favors by carrying around excessive fat, consuming an unhealthy diet, and being sedentary. It is what it is. 


people pretending they give a damn about what favors others are or are not doing themselves doesn't help either


Posted By: nitabug
Date Posted: Feb 07 2014 at 11:25am

Body Size or Exercise: Which Matters Most?

Given the choice between being slim despite the fact that you never exercise or being overweight despite the fact that you work out all the time, which would you choose?

If you chose slim and no exercise, would it surprise you to know that your health could ultimately be worse than if you'd chosen to be overweight but exercise regularly?

It may be true. Studies suggest that people who are physically active and overweight have lower rates of cardiovascular disease and mortality than people who are inactive and thin. So whether you're slender or voluptuous, big and tall or thin and small, making physical activity a regular part of your life is vital to improving your health and making your RealAge younger.

Weighing In on Health

That's not to say that size doesn't matter at all. The health risks associated with obesity are well documented: increased risk of diabetes, high blood pressure, coronary heart disease, cardiovascular disease, and some types of cancer. But what you don't hear very often is that you can reduce these risks by being physically active, even if you don't lose weight.



Posted By: nitabug
Date Posted: Feb 07 2014 at 11:26am
Entire Article: 

Body Size or Exercise: Which Matters Most?

Given the choice between being slim despite the fact that you never exercise or being overweight despite the fact that you work out all the time, which would you choose?

If you chose slim and no exercise, would it surprise you to know that your health could ultimately be worse than if you'd chosen to be overweight but exercise regularly?

It may be true. Studies suggest that people who are physically active and overweight have lower rates of cardiovascular disease and mortality than people who are inactive and thin. So whether you're slender or voluptuous, big and tall or thin and small, making physical activity a regular part of your life is vital to improving your health and making your RealAge younger.

Weighing In on Health

That's not to say that size doesn't matter at all. The health risks associated with obesity are well documented: increased risk of diabetes, high blood pressure, coronary heart disease, cardiovascular disease, and some types of cancer. But what you don't hear very often is that you can reduce these risks by being physically active, even if you don't lose weight.

The health risks associated with being slightly or moderately overweight are less clear-cut. Some studies suggest that being moderately overweight is not linked with an increased risk in mortality, particularly among people who are physically fit. And some researchers are advocating a change in the current categories of overweight.

One reason is that some standard weight and size measurements, such as body mass index (BMI), are not accurate predictors of health risks. BMI, for example, doesn't distinguish between fat and muscle, and it doesn't measure visceral fat -- the fat surrounding abdominal organs. Visceral abdominal fat is a significant risk factor for heart disease and metabolic syndrome. So some people with a healthy BMI who carry their weight around their middle may actually be less healthy than people labeled overweight who have better fat distribution.

Bottom line: No matter what your size or your BMI, being inactive increases your risk of heart disease, hypertension, and  http://www.sharecare.com/question/risk-factors-type-two-diabetes" rel="nofollow - type 2 diabetes .

Start with This Goal

To improve your health, aim for 30 minutes of moderate aerobic activity most days of the week to help improve your cardiorespiratory fitness. Thirty minutes 4 or 5 days a week might seem like a lot, especially if you haven't been active in a while or you lead a hectic life. But you'll be adding years of good health to your life if you can get yourself to do this on a regular basis.

That's the tricky part, of course: being physically active on a regular basis. Most people are not as active as they should be, and we're all likely to experience times when exercise falls by the wayside. We have our reasons for falling short, but we can overcome these obstacles with the right approach.

So what's stopping you from being consistently active? Read on to determine what your biggest barrier to fitness is and what you can do to overcome it, and start reaping the rewards of exercise.

What's Your Biggest Barrier to Exercise?

Choose the description below that best reflects the issue that keeps you from being more physically active and find out how to get around it.

1. I'm getting older, don't know what to do at my age, and am worried about injury.

It's never too late to get active. Regular physical activity will help keep you strong as you age, making it easier to remain active and be independent longer. For most older people, moderate activity is safe. Moderate physical activity should cause a slight increase in heart rate and breathing. It should feel somewhat challenging, but you should still be able to carry on a conversation without difficulty.

Examples of moderate-intensity activities include:

  • Playing tennis (doubles)
  • Raking leaves or sweeping the patio
  • Walking laps in a pool
  • Walking briskly

Check with your doctor before beginning an exercise program for the first time. Your doctor can help you design a program that takes into account any physical limitations or medical conditions you have. A well-designed exercise program should be able to accommodate just about any special circumstances.

Build up your level of activity gradually to help prevent sore muscles or injury. Listen to your body, and don't try to do too much too soon. If something is painful or seems impossibly difficult, ease up or find a less intense activity.

Three Tips to Get Started:

  1. Block out some walking time. Walk around the block each morning or every evening after dinner. Walking is a simple and effective way to be active. You don't need any special equipment, just sturdy walking shoes. If you are worried about hurting yourself, recruit a friend, family member, or neighbor to walk with you. Having someone close by who can assist you, if needed, can bring peace of mind.
  2. Focus on your flexibility. You may benefit greatly from flexibility exercises and can spend more time doing these and less time doing cardio, if you prefer. And strength and flexibility exercises can help protect you from injury. Simple stretches work fine.  http://www.sharecare.com/question/how-can-improve-wrist-flexibility" rel="nofollow - Start with these stretches that you can do at home . For some variety, find out whether your local community center offers dance classes for older adults. Dancing can build balance, flexibility, strength, and aerobic fitness. You can also build balance skills with either instructional videos or structured classes on yoga or tai chi.
  3. Seek water. Swimming and aqua aerobics are good options if you have aching joints, arthritis, or certain physical limitations. Water activities can build aerobic fitness, muscle strength, and flexibility. And because the water supports most of your weight, water activities won't be jarring on your joints. 

If these tips don't jumpstart your fitness program, don't give up. The options are endless, and with appropriate guidance from fitness and healthcare experts, you should have all the tools and support you need to work out safely and effectively.

2. I'm out of shape and it seems like such a long road ahead.

Although getting physically fit or losing weight is certainly an achievable goal no matter what your starting point, if you focus on that fairly vague and lofty goal right from the beginning, you are likely to get discouraged. Instead, break things down into smaller, more specific, more realistic goals.

It may help to know that the first few hundred extra calories you burn will give you the greatest health benefit. So take it day by day, focus on living a more active life overall, and the rest will fall into place.

Three Tips to Get Started:

  1. Make it manageable. Set your goals as small and as specific as you need in order to get motivated. Instead of saying to yourself, "I'm going to get in shape," set a more realistic short-term goal with a very specific objective. For example, your first goal might be to walk for 5 minutes today and tomorrow. Or you might set a goal of walking up and down the stairs in your house two additional times every day this week. Do whatever you need to do to make the concept of being active seem manageable to you on a moment-by-moment basis.
  2. Ease into it. Start with a scaled-down version of whatever plan you've created for becoming more active. If walking is your activity of choice, begin with 5-minute walks and eventually build up to 10-, 20-, or 30-minute walks. Or start exercising just 2 days per week, then work your way up to 5 days per week over a period of months. Start small, and as soon as you feel you can do more, commit to the extra effort. But don't bother thinking about the next step until you feel great about what you are currently doing.
  3. Work with what you've got. If you're very overweight or have aching joints, arthritis, or a physical limitation, you'll do best to focus on activities that make exercise easier in the beginning. Swimming or other water-based activities are good options. They provide an excellent resistance and cardiovascular workout, and the water will support most of your weight, so you may be able to do stretches and movements that might be too difficult on dry land. Enlist the help of your healthcare provider or physical therapist in designing a workout plan that's appropriate for you. 

    Take it day-by-day. If you focus on the short-term and keep setting new goals, before you know it, you'll be looking back with pride on the long road you traveled.

3. I'm simply too busy and don't know where I'd find the time for regular exercise.

It can be a challenge to find time to be active when you've got a hectic schedule. Start by taking a moment to remind yourself that your health is at stake. You're not wasting time by being physically active, you're buying time. The time you spend exercising now comes back to you later in the form of a longer, more active life.

Also, the chances are good that you'll save more time than you spend, because you'll sleep better and be more rested. You will most likely notice that you are less nervous and distracted as well. All of this will help you to get more done in less time.

So make physical activity just as important as the other items on your to-do list.

Three Tips to Get Started:

  1. Make a multitasking strategy. Can you walk and chew gum at the same time? Then talking and walking at the same time won't be a stretch. A daily walking program doesn't have to mean cutting back on family time if you combine the two. Take walks in the evening to catch up with your partner, kids, friends, or parents. Another way to multitask: Combine exercising and commuting. You can bike to work or park a mile away and walk to and from your car. Other multitasking options: Have walking meetings with colleagues, clean the house at high speed for a cardio boost, and catch up on your reading by listening to books on tape while exercising. Finally, wear a pedometer. This simple, affordable device counts the number of steps you take. With a little effort, you can probably figure out creative ways to make your normal daily life active enough to meet the recommended 10,000 steps per day.
  2. Schedule exercise into your appointments. Take an extra 10 minutes before or after each appointment, and use that time to walk around the block or up and down the stairs. Schedule exercise into your outings with friends and family as well. Instead of dinner and a movie, make it lunch and a hike or breakfast and a bike ride. Keep a pair of running shoes in the trunk of your car so you can grab a few active moments whenever your schedule allows.
  3. Use exercise to unwind. With a jam-packed schedule, stress-reduction strategies are a must to help ward off needless aging. Exercising allows you to kill two birds with one stone because in addition to getting you fit, exercise is a natural stress-reducer. It boosts blood levels of endorphins, which are the body's natural mood enhancers, and decreases blood levels of cortisol, the body's stress hormones.

However you manage to squeeze in time for exercise, your body and mind will thank you for it. Before long, you'll really miss it when you don't get to exercise because of the impact it has on your physical and emotional well being.

4. I'm usually too exhausted by the end of the day. I just can't get motivated. I'd rather relax.

If you are exhausted at the end of the day, that's all the more reason to exercise. Research shows that as few as 10 weeks of regular exercise can leave people feeling more energized than they did prior to engaging in a program of physical activity.

We all struggle with motivation from time to time, but by continually putting off activity, you're turning it into a nagging chore, and that could be part of what's making you feel so lethargic. It's time to regain control of the situation.

Three Tips to Get Started:

  1. Get exercise out of the way early. If you find you lack motivation at the end of the day, part of your problem may be timing. Don't put exercise off until you're too tired to do it. Plan your workout for the time of day when you feel most energized. A 10-minute walk or jog before heading off to work may be just the ticket. Or you may be able to use your lunch hour for a trip to the gym. Just don't skip lunch -- that will leave you feeling more drained. Nibble on your sandwich at your desk when you get back from working out.
  2. Make exercise a social obligation. One of the most effective ways to lick the lazies is to make exercise appointments with other people. If you know someone is relying on you to show up at the park or the gym, it will be harder to blow it off. Pick up the phone or send an e-mail -- now -- to set a time to get together and do something active with a friend or coworker. You can make it fun -- throw a Frisbee in the park or play a sloppy game of tennis at lunchtime. If you're feeling ambitious, you can set a time to meet a fitness-focused friend at the gym after work so he or she can show you the ropes. Signing up for an exercise class can keep you committed to weekly workouts as well.
  3. Walk for good. Turning exercise into something you do for others may be just the motivation you need to get moving. Sign up for a charity walk to raise funds for a cause close to your heart. Enlist the participation of others, and schedule times to walk together. Give yourself a goal, and try to beat it. Some charity walks offer regular group get-togethers, trainings, and other motivational activities.

If you see exercise as a mindless activity -- a mere means with no end -- then it's pretty unlikely you'll make it a regular part of your life. Finding an exercise angle that gives physical activity meaning for you is the key to staying motivated.

5. It's not practical. The weather's often bad and I don't know what to do indoors.

Being active is key to a long and healthy life. And many of the things we might do to stay active -- walking, gardening, riding bikes, swimming -- tend to lend themselves to the outdoors. So when wet, inclement weather kicks in, it can really put a damper on your exercise groove. Especially if you're one of those people who gets bored doing the same indoor workout day after day.

Whether you feel housebound by the weather or some other aspect of your geographical surroundings, you can beat this obstacle to fitness by thinking outside the box -- or the house.

Three Tips to Get Started:

  1. Make the most of community resources. Local community centers or colleges may have a number of indoor facilities for use, including indoor tennis courts, pools, or tracks. While you're there, see what kind of activities and classes are available. You may find the winter months are a great time to brush up on your dusty tap-dancing skills or learn how to rumba for the first time.
  2. Use the weather to your advantage. Ice skating, cross-country skiing, sledding, shoveling snow, and building a snowman all provide excellent forms of exercise. Bundle up and embrace the cold. Just be sure to take things slowly. Allow your lungs to get acclimated to cold-weather workouts with short periods of exercise. With proper acclimation and gear -- such as ski masks that warm and moisten air as it passes into your mouth -- you should be able to get your fill of exercise without hurting your respiratory health.
  3. Make over your indoor workout. For the days when it is truly impossible to head outside or make the trek to your favorite indoor exercise facility, it's good to have a backup plan. Keep your home stocked with options for working out indoors. Invest in a variety of exercise videos and DVDs -- from standards, such as aerobics, to the truly unusual, such as a belly dancing or hip-hop how-to. The more variety the better -- you're less likely to get bored. You may also want to consider investing in some traditional exercise equipment for the days when you don't feel as creative. An exercise ball, treadmill, stationary bike, or weight bench offer a quick and easy option for fitting in 30 minutes of activity.

Think of the cold, wet winter months as your opportunity to get truly creative. When the weather is better, you can go back to your old standbys. Start thinking now about new ways to be active next winter.

6. I hate exercising.

Some people love a structured exercise program -- they go to the gym, they do the weight circuit, they have their 30 minutes on the treadmill, and they love every minute of it. If a structured exercise plan doesn't appeal to you, there's no crime in that. But it's also not a legitimate obstacle to fitness because -- here's the good news -- you don't have to exercise.

That's right. There are lots of things you can do that count toward meeting physical activity goals and they don't have to fall under the category of traditional exercises to make you younger and fitter.

Three Tips to Get Started:

  1. Think "active," not "exercise." Here's a list of activities that can help you fill your physical activity quota for the day: playing Frisbee; washing the car; building a fence; gardening; dancing; running after your dog at the park; mowing the lawn with a push mower; ironing; sculpting clay; woodworking; laying down linoleum in your kitchen; painting the garage; roller-skating; walking at the mall (shop if you must); acting in a community play; dancing at a club or alone in your living room; hiking with a friend; taking a paddleboat around a lake. If you can strike the right balance of cardiorespiratory, flexibility, and strength-training exercise with your physical activities, you may never have to darken the doors of a gym again.
  2. Take a fitness vacation. Spend your vacation engaging in physical activities in exotic locales instead of taking a vacation from exercise. Do your research; you can find vacation packages at spas, ranches, or retreats that will fill your days with hiking; yoga; kayaking; horseback riding; tennis; skiing; surfing; snorkeling; or a combination of activities. For those in need of a bigger challenge, a fitness boot camp may be the preferred option. Just be sure to choose a package that is appropriate for your current fitness level and abilities. Bring what you learn home with you, and put it into daily practice.
  3. Figure in the fun factor. Do whatever you have to do to make physical activity enjoyable for you. Choose scenic routes for your walks: a neighborhood with beautiful homes, a picturesque park, or a stunning riverside or beach walk. Invite good company on your active outings, so the time will fly by. Treat yourself on the weekends -- drive (or better yet, cycle) to a nearby state park or botanical garden you've been meaning to visit. Enjoy your surroundings, and try as many different activities as you need in order to stay interested, challenged, and motivated.

Being physically active will make you more energetic and boost your mood almost immediately. You'll sleep better, feel good about yourself, find it easier to relax, and you may really enjoy the new, active you.

7. I usually find a way to be active.

Good for you! You are part of a minority of health-minded people who exercise regularly or spend a significant portion of their time being active.

Because you exercise regularly, if you are in good health, your body could probably benefit from more vigorous -- as opposed to moderate -- physical activity to improve your cardiovascular fitness.

Here are some ways you can shift from moderate to more vigorous physical activities.

Moderate Activities

  • Playing tennis (doubles)
  • Raking leaves or sweeping the patio
  • Walking laps in a pool
  • Cycling 5–9 miles per hour on a flat surface
  • Playing Frisbee
  • Walking briskly
  • Gardening 

Vigorous Activities

  • Playing tennis (singles)
  • Shoveling heavy snow
  • Swimming laps in a pool
  • Cycling more than 10 miles per hour or on hilly terrain
  • Roller-skating
  • Jogging or hiking
  • Mowing lawn with a push mower

To help make sure you don't get stuck in a rut with your exercise choices, check out these other articles:
http://www.sharecare.com/health/fitness-exercise/article/is-your-workout-paying-off" rel="nofollow - Is Your Workout Paying Off?
http://www.sharecare.com/health/fitness-exercise/article/weight-loss-plateau" rel="nofollow - Getting Over the Weight Plateau

And if you have a friend or family member who needs some help getting motivated, consider sharing your energy by inviting him or her for a walk or another active outing, being mindful of the person's fitness level.

Active Advantage

If you can overcome the obstacles that leave your activewear gathering dust, regular physical activity provides an impressive array of health benefits, regardless of your size. Thirty minutes of moderate activity each day (or at least 4 or 5 days a week) can help to:

  • Reduce high blood pressure
  • Prevent heart disease
  • Reduce risk of stroke
  • Lower  https://www.sharecare.com/assessments/online-cholesterol-health-assessment-heart-attack-risk" rel="nofollow - cholesterol  levels
  • Reduce total and visceral fat
  • Improve cardiovascular function
  • Reduce risk of colon cancer
  • Prevent osteoporosis
  • Reduce risk of developing type 2 diabetes and improve health outcomes for those with diabetes
  • Reduce risk of  http://www.sharecare.com/assessments/depression-health-assessment" rel="nofollow - depression , elevate mood
  • Support restful sleep
  • Reduce tension and increase energy

Weight Not, Want Not

Whether you hit the gym, hit the road, or sneak in a few minutes of Frisbee each weekend, try not to focus on losing weight. It's more important to your health and well-being for you to be active than to stress too much about your size. In fact, research suggests that people who are overweight today are healthier than most normal-weight people were a generation ago.

To be sure, weight loss is a smart goal if your weight is hurting your health. If you're obese, even if you currently have no signs of poor health, research suggests you may be at high risk of developing diabetes and heart disease in later life. If you want to lose weight while you're getting healthier and more fit, you may need to increase the amount or intensity of your activities. For example, if you don't see results after 1 or 2 months of 30 minutes of moderate activity 5 days a week, spend more time exercising, or try adding a few more vigorous activities to your life without reducing the time you spend being active.

Regardless of your size, however, by working with your body to incorporate physical activity into your everyday life instead of working against it, you're improving your health and making your RealAge younger. Before long, you'll feel healthier, look healthier, and be healthier.



Posted By: iliveforbhm
Date Posted: Feb 07 2014 at 11:44am

My workout days are all over.



Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Feb 07 2014 at 11:47am
Originally posted by iliveforbhm iliveforbhm wrote:

My workout days are all over.


why?


Posted By: Wildfire
Date Posted: Feb 07 2014 at 1:20pm
obese does = overweight all the time...


Posted By: Wildfire
Date Posted: Feb 07 2014 at 1:25pm
Originally posted by joileprincess joileprincess wrote:

If people want to live an unhealthy lifestyle then that is their choice. They however should not be delusional. You are not doing yourself any favors by carrying around excessive fat, consuming an unhealthy diet, and being sedentary. It is what it is. 


I now fully  appreciate that there is no excuse for not exercising, except health/physical issues


Posted By: iliveforbhm
Date Posted: Feb 07 2014 at 1:28pm
Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

Originally posted by iliveforbhm iliveforbhm wrote:

My workout days are all over.


why?
 
Tired of it. I rather eat veggies and fruits and very lil meat.


Posted By: MsBMW
Date Posted: Feb 07 2014 at 1:37pm
Originally posted by iliveforbhm iliveforbhm wrote:

Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

Originally posted by iliveforbhm iliveforbhm wrote:

My workout days are all over.


why?
 
Tired of it. I rather eat veggies and fruits and very lil meat.

What about maintaining a healthy heart


Posted By: iliveforbhm
Date Posted: Feb 07 2014 at 2:17pm
Originally posted by MsBMW MsBMW wrote:

Originally posted by iliveforbhm iliveforbhm wrote:

Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

Originally posted by iliveforbhm iliveforbhm wrote:

My workout days are all over.


why?
 
Tired of it. I rather eat veggies and fruits and very lil meat.

What about maintaining a healthy heart
 
Ionno care someone will be happy with that million dollar insurance.


Posted By: Blac1Chyna
Date Posted: Feb 07 2014 at 9:49pm
It is not healthy to be overweight for your body type. Plain and simple. Why people continue to stick their heads in the sand about this sh*t I will never understand. You may not be suffering from the ills over extra weight now, but keep that sh*t on and in the next 25 years let's look at your health.  It is not good for the body to be carrying around bags and sacks of excess fat. Let's face it people. I don't care how many 250 lb people you claim to know can run a marathon - dont try to make that sh*t right because its not. You can lie to yourself but your body will only tolerate abuse for so long.


Posted By: ModelessDiva
Date Posted: Feb 07 2014 at 10:40pm
 true....



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