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Topic: My Hair Isnt Flourishing
Posted By: Loves2Laugh
Subject: My Hair Isnt Flourishing
Date Posted: Oct 04 2013 at 4:05pm
Hi guys

This has already been posted in Growth, but Yaya suggested I post it here instead:

My hair isn’t growing AT ALL and I don’t know why. It hasn’t grown at all in over 3 months. I know I need to improve my diet and exercise, but my products and regime, if not completely right for me, are at least not that bad. Having overcome extreme – and I mean EXTREME breakage, plus dry, hard hair recently, I gave myself 7 months to see 2 and a half to 3 and half inches by the end of the year. However, I’ve now passed the half way line and there has been NO progress.

My hair specs:

- Natural (or at least I consider myself to be)

- Coily hair, 4b I think, I’m not sure (tiny spring curls, when my hair’s behaving itself)

- Naturally dry; hair strands – fine; hair density – low, but extremely sensitive to protein

- Damaged hairline, extreme damage to temples

- Scalp is v sensitive; lots of products cause itchiness and it has also been painful in the past

- Longest length is 10 and half inches but I'll check this wkend.

My hair’s not in great condition at the moment (apart from hairline), but it’s by no mean in bad condition.It's grown more before with much more neglect.

Please help or else I’ll be destined to spend the rest of my life looking like a cross between Krusty the Clown (temples) and Ralph Wiggum (hair density).




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Posted By: Loves2Laugh
Date Posted: Oct 04 2013 at 4:08pm

Krusty 


Posted By: Loves2Laugh
Date Posted: Oct 04 2013 at 4:16pm

MY CURRENT REGIME & PRODUCTS (in brief: co-wash once a week, overnight oil prepoo, braids}

I wear my hair braided up in 6 – 8 plaits beneath a wig, so the night before wash day I smooth an  oil mix of EVOO, jojoba, grapeseed, sweet almond and crude avocado all over my hair and take out the plaits out.

I also finger detangle but I don’t comb at this point. I massage my scalp, hair and hairline with the same oils above, plus I add JO Pimento & Castor Oil to my scalp and hairline.

I then do 4 – 6 twists and baggy overnight and fingercomb or wide toothcomb with Aussie Moist. I baggy again without heat for 20 – 40 mins and then wash out. I towel dry for about 30 – 60 mins, moisturise with a mix of UBH Crème, UBH Spray and a tiny amount of oil and either braid it up again straight away, or twist and baggy, but then braid it later that day /night.

I also have shikakai powder and Amla Coconut Oil, but I need to do patch test before I use them, plus I’m not really sure how much to use and how to use them.



Posted By: krisviola1
Date Posted: Oct 04 2013 at 5:31pm
Loves, I'm gonna keep it real with you.  Your regimen sounds FINE.  You hear me?  It's good.  There isn't anything you're doing that could be considered harmful or damaging to your precious strands.  Are you getting a good nights sleep at night?  Do you ever get your blood pumping enough to work up a sweat? How many servings of fruits and vegetables are you eating every day?  Those are the things you need to address.  Also, be realistic about what your hair is supposed to look and feel like.  The hair on your head could be perfectly fine.  You may just need to change your perception.




Posted By: rell85
Date Posted: Oct 04 2013 at 5:57pm
Try growth aids to give you a boost.


Posted By: *Redbone <3
Date Posted: Oct 04 2013 at 7:23pm
drinking a lot of water also promotes hair growth. 


Posted By: Loves2Laugh
Date Posted: Oct 05 2013 at 6:19am
@ Krisviola: I haven't exercised recently and my diet has been rubbish for most of 2013 Embarrassed. However, I am addressing it And there are other things I could definitely need to change. Like, I currently sleep on cotton pillow cases, and I don't use a wig cap... Nor do I have enough silky scarfs. I'm gonna go out and get this stuff today. But I would've thought that those things would contribute to breakage, not lack of hair growth. When I comb, either using my fingers or a widetooth comb, with conditioner, I mainly lose long strands, they're rarely short or medium in length. My hair just doesn't seem to have grown in 3 months Confused. I'll need to give this much more thought.

@ Rell: I'm currently looking into growth aids. I already use supplements - Spirulina, Iron and Cod Liver Oil, but I'm going to consider aids more tailored towards hair growth.

@ Redbone: I'm already on it! And I usually drink mineral or tap water that's been boiled and cooled down. I only drink plain tap if there's nothing else available.

Thanks guys


Posted By: Loves2Laugh
Date Posted: Oct 05 2013 at 6:22am
Are essential oils and Amla, Neem Brahm, Henna (Ayurveda products) etc considered growth aids? I tend to swing towards natural products coz I've had so many problems with my scalp. I may have consider one that aren't though.


Posted By: imfunsized
Date Posted: Oct 05 2013 at 10:22am
You said extreme breakage which means your hair is not being properly moisturized, I recommend deep conditioning maybe 2 times a week and maybe buying a better moisturizer.


Posted By: sunshine321511
Date Posted: Oct 05 2013 at 1:53pm
Have your vitamin levels checked, I'm anemic and that effects my hair growth.


Posted By: lala71848
Date Posted: Oct 05 2013 at 5:22pm
IA with the previous posts. I was also experiencing.
the same thing where my hair won't grow. until i started to take hair skin and nails vitamins since then i have noticed alot of growth. Also biotin is great for hair growth but it might cause break outs, or facial hair. I use natures bounty Hair skin and nails that has 3000mg of biotin. I take 2daily instead of the three thats recommended. And I havent had any negatives so far only positive.


Posted By: krisviola1
Date Posted: Oct 05 2013 at 5:49pm
Originally posted by Loves2Laugh Loves2Laugh wrote:

@ Krisviola: I haven't exercised recently and my diet has been rubbish for most of 2013 Embarrassed. However, I am addressing it And there are other things I could definitely need to change. Like, I currently sleep on cotton pillow cases, and I don't use a wig cap... Nor do I have enough silky scarfs. I'm gonna go out and get this stuff today. But I would've thought that those things would contribute to breakage, not lack of hair growth. When I comb, either using my fingers or a widetooth comb, with conditioner, I mainly lose long strands, they're rarely short or medium in length. My hair just doesn't seem to have grown in 3 months Confused. I'll need to give this much more thought.

@ Rell: I'm currently looking into growth aids. I already use supplements - Spirulina, Iron and Cod Liver Oil, but I'm going to consider aids more tailored towards hair growth.

@ Redbone: I'm already on it! And I usually drink mineral or tap water that's been boiled and cooled down. I only drink plain tap if there's nothing else available.

Thanks guys

Breakage=lack of growth.  Do you have hair color or some type of chemical in your hair that would easily let you know which end of your hair the slow growth rate is coming from?  As naturals, it's very difficult to tell if the hairs out of our scalps are growing if it's breaking off at the ends.  Women with relaxed hair have this part easy.  They can tell exactly how much hair is growing from month to month.

Take a photo of your hair today.  As a matter of fact, take a few.  At the beginning of November after you've taken some of the advice you received in this thread, compare your hair to the photos.

Buying a satin pillow case or a bonnet is a great place to start if you want to reduce your breakage.  I have to admit I haven't been doing that for the past few days.  But it's because my bonnets need to go into the washing machine before I put them back on my head. 


Posted By: imfunsized
Date Posted: Oct 05 2013 at 10:37pm
Breakage equals a distribution in retention. It had nothing to do with hair growing from the scalp. She most likely is not properly moisturizing her hair especially her end where breakage occurs. You can take all the growth aids you want but of you are not properly moisturizing your hair you are not going to have length retention. It has nothing to do with growing but you practice good moisturizing techniques.


Posted By: bebe88
Date Posted: Oct 06 2013 at 11:16am
Keep ENDS moist and products off your scalp.
Stop towel drying, use an old t-shirt


Posted By: bebe88
Date Posted: Oct 06 2013 at 11:17am
Also wear a satin cap between your hair and that wig. The scalp of that wig can cause unnecessary friction.


Posted By: Loves2Laugh
Date Posted: Oct 06 2013 at 5:57pm
Originally posted by imfunsized imfunsized wrote:

You said extreme breakage which means your hair is not being properly moisturized, I recommend deep conditioning maybe 2 times a week and maybe buying a better moisturizer.


I'm beginning to think I need more moisture, but my hair's scared to death of protein, so I tend to load it up with oil and moisturiser. However, I bought a chelating (sp) shampoo yesterday and did a DC this morning. My hair is a little hard now but that's to be expected. I'll have to see how it feels midweek. Thanks for your input :)


Posted By: Loves2Laugh
Date Posted: Oct 06 2013 at 6:04pm
Originally posted by sunshine321511 sunshine321511 wrote:

Have your vitamin levels checked, I'm anemic and that effects my hair growth.


Originally posted by lala71848 lala71848 wrote:

IA with the previous posts. I was also experiencing.
the same thing where my hair won't grow. until i started to take hair skin and nails vitamins since then i have noticed alot of growth. Also biotin is great for hair growth but it might cause break outs, or facial hair. I use natures bounty Hair skin and nails that has 3000mg of biotin. I take 2daily instead of the three thats recommended. And I havent had any negatives so far only positive.



I take daily supplements, including a liquid iron supplement (Spatone) and Sprirulina, which is high in iron. However, I'm cutting down on my intake of junk / processed food so this should help.

 Thank you both :)


Posted By: Loves2Laugh
Date Posted: Oct 06 2013 at 6:24pm
Originally posted by krisviola1 krisviola1 wrote:

Originally posted by Loves2Laugh Loves2Laugh wrote:

@ Krisviola: ... But I would've thought that those things would contribute to breakage, not lack of hair growth. ...

Breakage=lack of growth.  Do you have hair color or some type of chemical in your hair that would easily let you know which end of your hair the slow growth rate is coming from?  As naturals, it's very difficult to tell if the hairs out of our scalps are growing if it's breaking off at the ends.  Women with relaxed hair have this part easy.  They can tell exactly how much hair is growing from month to month.

Take a photo of your hair today.  As a matter of fact, take a few.  At the beginning of November after you've taken some of the advice you received in this thread, compare your hair to the photos.

Buying a satin pillow case or a bonnet is a great place to start if you want to reduce your breakage.  I have to admit I haven't been doing that for the past few days.  But it's because my bonnets need to go into the washing machine before I put them back on my head. 
To be honest I'm no longer sure if the hair I'm losing is breakage or normal shed hair. I assumed it was mainly shed hair because most of the breakage I experienced  previously (except once before) was hair that was a mixture of long, short & medium pieces. Plus there would be loads of hair in my hands after moisturising or in the bath after shampooing / rinsing. Now, there's rarely anything in the bath or in my hands. I just don't know.Confused. But although, I originally said I don't think my reggie is too bad, I am tweaking it to see if I can get better results.

Thanks again :)


Posted By: Loves2Laugh
Date Posted: Oct 06 2013 at 6:33pm
Originally posted by imfunsized imfunsized wrote:

Breakage equals a distribution in retention. It had nothing to do with hair growing from the scalp. She most likely is not properly moisturizing her hair especially her end where breakage occurs. You can take all the growth aids you want but of you are not properly moisturizing your hair you are not going to have length retention. It has nothing to do with growing but you practice good moisturizing techniques.
I do moisturise regularly - I smooth the moisturiser from root to tip, then about half way down, and then the ends. I do this in sections a number of times depending on how ' 'unmoisturised' my hair feels.

Thanks again :)


Posted By: Loves2Laugh
Date Posted: Oct 06 2013 at 6:39pm
Originally posted by bebe88 bebe88 wrote:

Keep ENDS moist and products off your scalp.
Stop towel drying, use an old t-shirt
@bebe: sorry I didn't actually mean a towel - I use soft cotton tops, which I press against my hair to absorb as much water as possible, then I wrap it around my head to dry it a little more.

Originally posted by bebe88 bebe88 wrote:

Also wear a satin cap between your hair and that wig. The scalp of that wig can cause unnecessary friction.
@bebe@ I'll definitely do this. I completely forgot to pick one up when I got my shampoos yesterday, but it's a No1 priority for tomorrow.@

@krisviola: that is my problem too, not having enough silky scarves / bonnets so they run out before I can wash them again. Also, re the pics, I did my hair this morning, but I'll try & take some next wkend when take out the braids again.

Thanks :)


Posted By: Ritle
Date Posted: Oct 07 2013 at 5:11pm
A shed hair strand will have a (white(-ish)"bulb" at the beginning of the strand, that's how you'll be able to tell the difference between shed hair and a broken strand.


Posted By: Loves2Laugh
Date Posted: Oct 08 2013 at 4:24am
I was just thinking this. I can see I'm gonna have to go back to the hair care basics on everything and build up regime from there.
 
Thanks Smile


Posted By: Benni
Date Posted: Oct 10 2013 at 1:38am
I hope you find a solution Loves2Laugh. I have had similar problems recently that seem to be resolving with frequent deep conditioning, and finger detangling instead of using a comb and my Denman.

Good Luck


Posted By: Loves2Laugh
Date Posted: Oct 13 2013 at 6:14pm
Well, I've decided that I definitely won't be using regular protein DCs. Although, I used very small amount of UBC deep conditioner last Sunday (and believe me I was really stingy) and my hair was not as dry /hard / crispy as it had been in the past, when I took out my plaits on Saturday night, my hair felt as it though it was fused together. Confused

It's kind of hard to explain but it was as if each section of the plait was fused together. I had to pull apart and / or dig my fingers in between the sections in order to loosen them. I used my EVOO/ Jojoba/Grapeseed/Sweet Almond/ Crude Almond/Amla oil mix on my hair before unbraiding. I've had dry, hard hair with protein products before, but the crispiness and 'fused togetherness' -yes, I'm inventing new words - has only happened once before, with my Jamaican Organic Pimento Oil with Castor Oil (and some other stuff).


Posted By: Loves2Laugh
Date Posted: Oct 13 2013 at 6:25pm
@Benni: Thanks for your message, but as you can see the protein hasn't been working out for meLOL. It was the Pimento and Castor Oil caused my hair to get crispy and fuse together about 6 weeks ago... and I was finger detangling at the time.


Posted By: hair_dummy
Date Posted: Feb 09 2014 at 12:23am
Hi there Loves2Laugh. It sounds as though you are doing too much to manage your hair. Specifically I believe that you are having problems because you are cowashing and not removing the build up from your hair with a clarifying shampoo. Cowashing can cause product build up and this can make your hair feel dry especially when you try to add more product in order to counteract the dryness. I know some people prefer to cowash their hair instead of shampooing and that's ok but it isn't for everybody.  I believe in your case you will need to re-evaluate why you are cowashing your hair since it appears to be part of the problem.

In order to correct the situation I would say you should revamp your regimen to include shampooing even if it is only to remove build up from time to time. Here is a list of some things that your may want to consider:

1. Shampoo your hair with a clarifying shampoo to remove build up. The excessive dryness should stop and your hair should be able to moisturize properly once the build up is gone. If you do not want to use a clarifying shampoo then you may want to do an apple cider vinegar rinse (ACV) at least once a month and remove the build up that way.

2. You are over moisturizing your hair by baggying it too often. You need moisture but not that much. Too much moisture without protein will weaken your hair to the point of breaking. Perhaps reserve baggying for when you deep condition and make that about once or twice a week. Like with cowashing baggying isn't for everybody.

3.
Protein is necessary for healthy hair. Whether you are receiving protein trough your diet, add it to your hair or both you still need protein. Maintaining the proper moisture-protein balance in your hair will stop the breakage and dryness. Even though you have said that you hair is protein sensitive I feel that once you remove the build up you should be able to do a protein treatment with success. This should workout as long as you give your hair the proper amount of protein when you need it. We all have limits to how much protein our hair can handle at one time. Too much protein will cause breakage because it will build up in the hair making it brittle and then break off. Moisturizing your hair will keep your hair supple while the protein strengthens it. Another reason why your hair will not moisturize properly is because protein is necessary to allow the hair strands to absorb moisture. You cannot have moisture without protein and you need moisture in order for the protein to work effectively. Try doing a light protein treatment like Aphogee 2 Minute Reconstructor or Aubry Organics GPB Conditioner once every 2 weeks to once a month. The frequency of which you will need these treatments will depend upon how often you cowash and moisturize your hair. The more you moisturize the more often you will need to add protein.

4. You may need to shampoo your hair regularly. If you are experiencing itching when you apply products to your hair that may be because the cowashing is not removing the bacteria from your scalp. The only time I have ever had an itchy scalp was when I did not keep my scalp/hair clean. If I added oils or certain products to my hair my scalp would itch like crazy. Now that I wash my hair twice a week and make sure that my scalp is clean I don't experience itching anymore. If you do not want to shampoo your hair then consider using a cleansing conditioner as opposed to a regular one. These conditioners have surfactants (detergents) that are designed to cleanse without stripping your hair. As I am Coconut Cowash is a good one that I have used but it's has left my hair feeling dry. I have found that I need to deep condition after using it but it does clean very well. The objective is to apply cleansing products to your scalp and roots as well as your hair. It's easy to add product to your hair and think that the scalp is covered but sometimes it is not. Try making a conscious effort in directly applying cleansing products to your scalp. You can do this by washing your hair in sections so that you can apply the product easier.

5. Growth aids are not really necessary at this point. Right now you have to find the source of your problem and correct it in order to allow your hair to grow healthier. Using growth aids without clearing up these issues may prove to be futile. A solid foundation of diet and healthy hair practices are necessary before any growth aids can benefit you. You don't have to be on a DIET but try to eat more wholesome, unprocessed foods instead of junk food and take out if that is your thing. Eating better quality food will nourish your hair and help it grow faster than when it is not being properly nourished. Also a poor diet deficient in protein and other nutrients will make your hair weaker and more susceptible to breakage and falling out.

Things you can do to help yourself get started:
-First get your regimen down, washing, cowashing and all that so that you are able to moisturize your hair and stop the breakage.

-Next work out your protein usage. Remember to start out slow and then increase the number of protein treatments as needed.

-Third other growth aids may not be necessary. The oils that are in your current regimen have already been proven to affect hair growth and quality. Olive oil, grapeseed oil and almond oil have been said to increase growth rates (with in a person's genetic limitations of course). Almond and olive oil are particularly good at strengthening hair and stopping excessive shedding. Coconut oil moisturizes, softens and works as and excellent prepoo treatment to prevent dry hair after shampooing. Experiment with them and choose the ones that suit you best and apply them once to twice a week making sure to get it on your roots and scalp where they will work best.


That's all for now. Constructing a good regimen takes time and practice. You may be doing a lot of trial and error before you get it right but you will get there. A few important points that will help you on your way.

-Always use moisturizing products before you use protein ie. wash with a moisturizing sulfate free shampoo before doing a protein treatment. Do this especially after you clarify or do an ACV rinse. This will help your hair uptake moisture better.

-When you do a protein treatment follow it up with a deep conditioner. If you use Aubry Organics GPB conditioner then this won't be necessary but it is with necessary with Aphogee products. Some protein products will also moisurize your hair at the same time while others will not. You may not know which one until you use it.

-Maintain moisture throughout the week up until wash day. This means moisturizing and sealing with oils/ baggying or what ever you use daily to keep the level of moisture in your hair until it is time to wash again. If you plan to continue cowashing then you may not need to do much but if you do shampoo then make sure that whatever you do your hair does not become dried out. Dryness makes it harder for your hair to become re-moisturized. Keeping a steady level of moisture in the hair will prevent dryness on wash day and maintain moisture in the future.

-Finally if you choose to use shampoo stick to a sulfate free shampoo unless you are going to clarify your hair. Sulfate shampoos can be drying over time which can make it harder to keep your hair moisturized. Try to avoid them if you can (with the exception of clarifying shampoos). Sulfate free shampoos will help you retain moisture better. If you use a clarifying shampoo use that one first then wash with a sulfate free one right after it to add the moisture back to your hair and remove any sulfate residue left behind.





Whew that was a lot to type! Ouch Dead These are the things I do to help me combat dryness and breakage. I hope it works out as well for you as it is for me.



Posted By: SurveenA4
Date Posted: Feb 10 2014 at 12:42am
Have you consult any hair specialist? May be there is some problem.



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