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Posted By: AshBash89
Subject: Michael Douglas Oral Sex Caused Cancer
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 2:56pm

Oral sex caused my cancer': Michael Douglas reveals sexually transmitted disease was behind his throat tumour

  • Actor had believed it was years of smoking and drinking that caused disease
  • Claims cancer strain stems from human papilloma virus spread via oral sex
  • Douglas now in the clear after 2010 diagnosis

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PUBLISHED: 11:56 EST, 2 June 2013 | UPDATED: 14:23 EST, 2 June 2013




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Hollywood actor Michael Douglas has claimed that his throat cancer was caused by performing oral sex on women.

The star, who fought a six month battle with the disease from August 2010 until January 2011, had initially believed that it was his years of smoking and drinking that had lead to the illness.

However, in a new interview the 68-year-old said that the particular strain he had suffered with was caused by human papilloma virus (HPV), a sexually transmitted disease.

Opening up: Michael Douglas, pictured on the Graham Norton Show last week, has spoken about the causes of his throat cancer

Opening up: Michael Douglas, pictured on the Graham Norton Show last week, has spoken about the causes of his throat cancer

Douglas made the frank admission about how he developed the illness during an interview with The Guardian newspaper when he was asked if he had regretted smoking and drinking in the past.

Douglas candidly replied: 'No. Because without wanting to get too specific, this particular cancer is caused by HPV, which actually comes about from cunnilingus.'

Douglas, who is married to Welsh actress Catherine Zeta-Jones, was diagnosed with cancer in August 2010 after a walnut-sized tumour was found on his tongue.

 

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His health troubles started just a few months after his eldest son Cameron - from his first marriage to Diandra Luker - was jailed for drug possession and dealing.

The actor admitted he initially believed his disease had been triggered by the stress over his son's legal troubles.

Fighting back: Michael in November 2010, when he was battling cancer

Fighting back: Michael in November 2010, when he was battling cancer

He explained: 'I did worry if the stress caused by my son's incarceration didn't help trigger it. But yeah, it's a sexually transmitted disease that causes cancer. And if you have it, cunnilingus is also the best cure for it.'

Douglas was diagnosed with stage four of the disease and underwent an intense course of chemotherapy and radiation.

Eventually, he was given the all-clear, although he still has to undergo check-ups with doctors every six months.

However, the actor is optimistic he has conquered the disease once and for all.

'With this kind of cancer, 95 per cent of the time it doesn't come back,' he said.

Family man: Michael with his wife Catherine Zeta-Jones and their two children Dylan and Carys

Family man: Michael with his wife Catherine Zeta-Jones and their two children Dylan and Carys

More than 20 years ago, Michael was hospitalised for an addiction, which many reports at the time claimed was to sex.

However, he has since denied that he was a sex addict, insisting that he was being treated for alcohol abuse.

HPV is a sexually transmitted virus which is more widely known as a cause of cervical and anal cancer.

Last year, Cancer Research UK said the rising rates of HPV16-positive cases of oral cancer could be linked to oral sex.

WHAT IS HUMAN PAPILLOMA VIRUS?

Human papilloma virus (HPV) is spread through sexual contact and is more usually associated with cervical cancer in women.

The cervical cancer jab given to 12 and 13-year-old schoolgirls aims to cut their odds of the cancer by protecting them against the virus.

Although most mouth and throat cancers are normally blamed on drinking and smoking an increasing number of cases that occur around the tonsils and back of the tongue are due to HPV.

Although the cancer is not contagious, the virus is.

In the US, HPV is blamed for up to 80 per cent of these tumours of the tonsils and the back of the tongue, which experts say could be due to increasing popularity of oral sex.

The typical patient is described as an otherwise healthy man in his late 40s or early 50s who has never smoked or smoked very little.

In Britain, the number of mouth and throat cancers have increased by 40 per cent in just a decade, to 6,200 cases a year.

Cancer Research UK says the HPV virus may be key to the ‘rapid rise’.

Symptoms include persistent mouth ulcers, pain, discoloured patches and difficulty chewing and swallowing.

Men are advised to check their neck for lumps when shaving and both sexes to look at the back of their throat while brushing their teeth.

Treatments such as chemotherapy, radiotherapy and surgery are often more successful in mouth and throat cancers caused by the virus than those caused by tobacco and alcohol.

Although mouth cancer can be caused by HPV passed on by oral sex, doctors say Michael Douglas’s claim that oral sex is also a cure doesn’t make any medical sense.


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Posted By: Alias_Avi
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 2:59pm
"on a woman"

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m77v7oUPxu1ql3br0o1_400.gif


Posted By: Lilaca
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 2:59pm
SHADE!


'now we know what he be eating at night'


Posted By: AshBash89
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:03pm
I stole this off of LSA lol.  In the words of Katt Williams, "I don't think I would have told that."


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:04pm
coochie monster. 


Posted By: ShadyLady
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:05pm
It's okay to keep some things to yourself.


Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:07pm
@Sang: Word to lil wayne.

Not years of drinking and smoking didn't do it, stress of a drugged out son didn't do it. Vagina did it all.

DeadLOL


Posted By: SoutherNtellect
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:08pm
um


Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:10pm
I wonder how is wife feels about him revealing this?? Isn't she currently in treatment for her mental illness? Like she needs this added stress.


Posted By: Nisha
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:10pm
totally TMI


Posted By: PurplePhase
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:11pm
wow


Posted By: Flowing-Ice
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:14pm
his wife has hpv? or was he licking up random vaginas? 


Posted By: PurplePhase
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:15pm
I just finished watching the Liberace movie


Posted By: Lilaca
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:15pm
men give women hpv, so he might as well licked his own if he's blaming his wife


Posted By: BBpants
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:18pm
Whatever lol He probably was sucking dicks and got it from his male lovers. He didn't need to say he got it from women.


Posted By: Sleek
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:20pm
Well....maybe this is why his wife loss it after his recoveryLOL


Posted By: Lilaca
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:31pm
she stood by him...he should have some respect


Posted By: oh_so_moody
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:31pm
I did a paper on HPV causing throat cancer during my MPH.

The block is hot!


U go downtown and might end up with that uptown. U


Posted By: bunzaveli
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:32pm


Posted By: oh_so_moody
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:34pm
^ Bunz, that's how you get pink eye.


Posted By: Anah
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:35pm
LMAO!!!! @ these responses.

HPV is thought to cause penile cancer too.

Um... Kudos for sharing, honesty?

:-/


Posted By: oh_so_moody
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:37pm
Damn BB. You went all in with that avi.

I said " what the fukk" aloud watching it.


Posted By: AshBash89
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:37pm
That gif is 50 shades of nasty. 


Posted By: bindy
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:38pm
sorry but....LOL


Posted By: Anah
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:39pm
Originally posted by Flowing-Ice Flowing-Ice wrote:

his wife has hpv? or was he licking up random vaginas? 

He's prob had it for years and those stressors he mentioned activated it. I don't know how much the public at large knows about stress but lord have mercy it can your whole system up. Stress decreases immunity amongst other things...

On 2nd thought, he prob shoulda kept that to himself. Now his wife is all on front street Ouch


Posted By: Bored w/Out Me?
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:43pm
One womans can't but tons of alot of womens juices staying in the lining of Your throat is totally believable as the cause...


Posted By: Alias_Avi
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:43pm
Damn Michael! TMI!

Now everyone with throat cancer is gonna get a side eye from me


Posted By: AshBash89
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:44pm

He explained: 'I did worry if the stress caused by my son's incarceration didn't help trigger it. But yeah, it's a sexually transmitted disease that causes cancer. And if you have it, cunnilingus is also the best cure for it.'

Huh?



Posted By: bunzaveli
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:49pm
Originally posted by AshBash89 AshBash89 wrote:

He explained: 'I did worry if the stress caused by my son's incarceration didn't help trigger it. But yeah, it's a sexually transmitted disease that causes cancer. And if you have it, cunnilingus is also the best cure for it.'

Huh?



Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:49pm
Originally posted by Alias_Avi Alias_Avi wrote:

Damn Michael! TMI!

Now everyone with throat cancer is gonna get a side eye from me


This article says hpv is now a more common cause of throat cancer than tobacco

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/2441521

Dammit it's mobile


Posted By: SoutherNtellect
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 3:56pm
it only takes one person 

doesn't mean it was the wife

doesn't mean it was even contracted in recent years


Posted By: CLCNY20
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 4:07pm
His kids are ridiculously gorgeous! Shocked


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 4:11pm
Michael Douglas was known as a notorious sex addict before he married Catherine Zeta Jones. That virus could have been in him for years


Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 4:15pm
Originally posted by Bored w/Out Me? Bored w/Out Me? wrote:

One womans can't but tons of alot of womens juices staying in the lining of Your throat is totally believable as the cause...

did you see this on the news?


Posted By: mzmee
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 4:16pm
Im just mad that I had a vision of him giving head for a millisecond.


Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 4:21pm
I wonder if his doctors told him hpv was the only cause or could it have been a mix of other factors.


Posted By: MISS CR
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 4:30pm
Originally posted by ms_wonderland<FONT color=#990033><strong> ms_wonderland wrote:

I wonder how is wife feels
about him revealing this?? Isn't she currently in treatment for her mental illness? Like she needs this added stress.
 
 
ShockedExactly! I would be pissed


Posted By: tatee
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 4:43pm
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Posted By: melikey
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 4:46pm
most people have hpv at one point or another. i read it was about 80%. 
i thought it was known where his cancer came from before this announcement?
oral cancer is one of the reason they want to start vaccinating boys. 


Posted By: Sinnamon_Mami
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 4:48pm
Dead eww... That's a helluva way to get cancer...


Posted By: Bored w/Out Me?
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 4:52pm
Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

Originally posted by Bored w/Out Me? Bored w/Out Me? wrote:

One womans can't but tons of alot of womens juices staying in the lining of Your throat is totally believable as the cause...

did you see this on the news?
 
 


Posted By: melikey
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 4:53pm
Originally posted by SoutherNtellect SoutherNtellect wrote:

it only takes one person 

doesn't mean it was the wife

doesn't mean it was even contracted in recent years

yeah, it's sad because so many people who have been married or abstinent for a while wind up dying of cervical cancer thinking because they're in a truly monogamous relationship or haven't had sex in years that they don't need to get checked out. a lot of people a really clueless about how hpv can lie in wait for years before it becomes a problem most of the time. 


Posted By: Alias_Avi
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 4:55pm
Yous a lie

Originally posted by melikey melikey wrote:

most people have hpv at one point or another. i read it was about 80%. 
i thought it was known where his cancer came from before this announcement?
oral cancer is one of the reason they want to start vaccinating boys. 


Posted By: melikey
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 4:58pm
Originally posted by Alias_Avi Alias_Avi wrote:

Yous a lie

Originally posted by melikey melikey wrote:

most people have hpv at one point or another. i read it was about 80%. 
i thought it was known where his cancer came from before this announcement?
oral cancer is one of the reason they want to start vaccinating boys. 


pretty sure it's true. most people's bodies fight it off like the flu virus when the get it so they never know.


Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 5:01pm

Genital HPV Infection - Fact Sheet

Montage of people.

What is genital HPV infection?

Genital human papillomavirus (also called HPV) is the most common sexually transmitted infection (STI). There are more than 40 types of HPV that can infect the genital areas of males and females. These HPV types can also infect the mouth and throat.

HPV can cause serious health problems, including genital warts and certain cancers. There is no certain way to tell who will develop health problems from HPV and who will not. In most cases HPV goes away by itself before it causes any health problems, and most people who become infected with HPV do not even know they have it.

HPV is not the same as herpes or HIV (the virus that causes AIDS). Both viruses can be passed on during sex, but they have different symptoms and cause different health problems.

Who is at risk for HPV?

Anyone who is having (or has ever had) sex can get HPV. HPV is so common that nearly all sexually-active men and women get it at some point in their lives. This is true even for people who only have sex with one person in their lifetime.

How do people get HPV?

HPV is passed on through genital contact, most often during vaginal and anal sex. HPV may also be passed on during oral sex and genital-to-genital contact. HPV can be passed on between straight and same-sex partners—even when the infected person has no signs or symptoms.

Most infected persons do not realize they are infected, or that they are passing HPV on to a sex partner. A person can still have HPV, even if years have passed since he or she has had sexual contact with an infected person. It is also possible to get more than one type of HPV.

In rare circumstances, a pregnant woman with genital HPV can pass the HPV on to her baby during delivery.

What are the potential health problems caused by HPV?

Most people with HPV never develop symptoms or health problems. Most HPV infections (90%) go away by themselves within two years. But, sometimes, HPV infections will persist and can cause a variety of serious health problems. Health problems that can be caused by HPV include

  • Genital warts (warts on the genital areas);
  • Recurrent respiratory papillomatosis (RRP), a rare condition in which warts grow in the throat;
  • Cervical cancer, cancer on a woman's cervix; and
  • Other, less common, but serious cancers, including genital cancers (cancer of the vulva, vagina, penis, or anus), and a type of head and neck cancer called oropharyngeal cancer (cancer in the back of throat, including the base of the tongue and tonsils).

All cases of genital warts and RRP, and nearly all cases of cervical cancer, are caused by HPV. A subset of cancers of the vagina, vulva, anus, penis, and oropharynx, are caused by HPV.

The types of HPV that can cause genital warts are not the same as the types of HPV that can cause cancers.

Signs and symptoms of health problems caused by HPV:

Genital warts usually appear as a small bump or group of bumps in the genital area. They can be small or large, raised or flat, or shaped like a cauliflower. Healthcare providers can usually diagnose warts by looking at the genital area. Warts can appear within weeks or months after sexual contact with an infected partner—even if the infected partner has no signs of genital warts. If left untreated, genital warts might go away, remain unchanged, or increase in size or number. The types of HPV that can cause genital warts are not the same as the types of HPV that can cause cancers.

Cervical cancer usually does not cause symptoms until it is quite advanced. For this reason, it is important for women to get regular http://www.cdc.gov/cancer/cervical/basic_info/screening.htm" rel="nofollow - screening for cervical cancer . Screening tests can find early signs of disease so that problems can be treated early, before they ever turn into cancer.

Other cancers caused by HPV might not have signs or symptoms until they are advanced and hard to treat.  Other http://www.cdc.gov/cancer/hpv/" rel="nofollow - HPV-associated cancers include some cancers of the vulva, vagina, penis, anus, and oropharynx.

RRP is a condition in which warts grow in the throat. RRP can occur in children (juvenile-onset) and adults (adult-onset). These growths can sometimes block the airway, causing a hoarse voice or trouble breathing.

How does HPV lead to health problems?

In most cases the virus goes away and it does not lead to any health problems. However, when the virus persists, or does not go away, HPV can cause normal cells to become abnormal and, most of the time you cannot see or feel these cell changes.

  • Warts can appear within months after getting HPV.
  • Cancer often takes years—even decades—to develop after a person gets HPV.

There is no certain way to know which people infected with HPV will go on to develop cancer or other health problems. However, persons with weak immune systems (including persons with HIV) may be less able to fight off HPV and more likely to develop health problems from it.

How common are HPV and health problems caused by HPV?

HPV (the virus): Approximately 79 million Americans are currently infected with HPV. About 14 million people become newly infected each year. HPV is so common that nearly all sexually-active men and women will get at least one type of HPV at some point in their lives.

Genital warts: About 360,000 persons in the U.S. get genital warts each year.

Cervical cancer: About 12,000 women in the U.S. get cervical cancer each year.

Other cancers that can be caused by HPV, including some vaginal, vulvar, penile, anal, and oropharyngeal cancers: Each year in the U.S., HPV is thought to cause an estimated

  • 2,100 vulvar cancers,
  • 500 vaginal cancers,
  • 600 penile cancers,
  • 2,800 anal cancers in women,
  • 1,500 anal cancers in men,
  • 1,700 oropharyngeal cancers in women,* and
  • 6,700 oropharyngeal cancers in men.*

*Note: Other factors, notably tobacco and alcohol use, may also play a role with HPV to cause these cancers.

About 21,000 of these cancers are potentially preventable by HPV vaccines.

Recurrent respiratory papillomatosis (RRP) is very rare. It is estimated that about 820 children get juvenile-onset RRP every year in the U.S.

What is the difference between HPV and HIV?

HPV is a different virus than HIV, and causes different health problems. HPV does not live in the blood cells, but rather lives on the skin. Also, whereas HIV can lead to AIDS, genital HPV can lead to genital warts and certain types of cancer. However, persons with HIV are more likely to get HPV and to develop health problems from HPV. This is especially true for anal cancer.

Does HPV affect a pregnant woman and her baby?

Women who are pregnant can get infected with HPV. Usually these infections do not cause any problems.  But sometimes

  • HPV leads to genital warts, which can grow during pregnancy. Women with genital warts during the late stages of pregnancy are more likely to have children with warts in the throat, a condition called recurrent respiratory papillomatosis; however, this is a very rare condition.
  • Pregnant women can develop cervical cell changes due to HPV. These changes can be detected through routine cervical cancer screening. Women should get routine cervical cancer screening, even during pregnancy.

Is there a test for HPV?

HPV tests are available to help screen women aged 30 years and older for cervical cancer. These HPV tests are not recommended to screen men, adolescents, or women under the age of 30 years. There is no general HPV test for men or women to check one's overall "HPV status." Also, there is not an approved HPV test to find HPV in the mouth or throat.

How can HPV be prevented?

There are several ways that people can lower their chances of getting HPV:

  • http://www.cdc.gov/hpv/vaccine.html" rel="nofollow - HPV vaccines are recommended for 11- or 12-year-old boys and girls. HPV vaccines are safe and effective, and can protect males and females against some of the most common types of HPV that can lead to disease and cancer. HPV vaccines are given in three shots over six months; it is important to get all three doses to get the best protection. Boys and girls at ages 11 or 12 are most likely to have the best protection provided by HPV vaccines, and their immune response to vaccine is better than older women and men.
    • Girls and women: Two vaccines (Cervarix and Gardasil) are available to protect females against the types of HPV that cause most cervical cancers. One of these vaccines (Gardasil) also protects against most genital warts, and has been shown to protect against anal, vaginal, and vulvar cancers. Either vaccine is recommended for 11- and 12-year-old girls, and for females 13 through 26 years of age who did not get any or all of the shots when they were younger. These vaccines can also be given to girls beginning at 9 years of age.
    • Boys and men: One vaccine (Gardasil) is available to protect males against most genital warts and anal cancers. Gardasil is recommended for 11- and 12-year-old boys, and for males 13 through 21 years of age who did not get any or all of the shots when they were younger. Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men should receive the vaccine through age 26 years. Males 22–26 years of age may also get the vaccine.
  • For those who choose to be sexually active, condoms may lower the risk of HPV. Condoms may also lower the risk of developing HPV-related diseases, such as genital warts and cervical cancer. To be most effective, condoms should be used with every sex act, from start to finish. HPV can infect areas that are not covered by a condom - so http://www.cdc.gov/condomeffectiveness/brief.html" rel="nofollow - condoms may not fully protect against HPV .
  • People can also lower their chances of getting HPV by being in a faithful relationship with one partner; limiting their number of sex partners; and choosing a partner who has had no or few prior sex partners. But even people with only one lifetime sex partner can get HPV, and it may not be possible to determine if a person who has been sexually active in the past is currently infected. Because HPV is so common, and almost every sexually-active person will get HPV at some time in their lives, it is important to protect against the possible health effects of HPV.

Can people prevent health problems caused by HPV?

Yes, there are different prevention strategies for different health problems caused by HPV. HPV vaccines can prevent many diseases and cancers caused by HPV. In addition to vaccination, there are other ways to lower the risk of health problems caused by HPV.

A person can lower their risk of

  • Cervical cancer by getting routine screening if they are a woman aged 21–65 years (and following up on any abnormal results);
  • Oropharyngeal cancers by avoiding tobacco and limiting alcohol intake; and
  • Genital warts by using condoms all the time and the right way.

Is there a treatment for HPV or health problems caused by HPV?

There is no treatment for the virus itself, but there are treatments for the health problems that HPV can cause:

  • Genital warts can be removed with treatments applied by the provider or the person himself/herself. No one treatment is better than another. Some people choose not to treat warts, but to see if they disappear on their own. If left untreated, genital warts may go away, stay the same, or grow in size or number.
  • Cervical cancer is most treatable when it is diagnosed and treated early. Women who get routine Pap tests and follow up as needed can identify problems before cancer develops. Prevention is always better than treatment. For more information visit http://www.cancer.org/" rel="nofollow - www.cancer.org http://www.cdc.gov/Other/disclaimer.html" rel="nofollow">External Web Site Icon .
  • Other HPV-related cancers are also more treatable when diagnosed and treated early. For more information visit http://www.cancer.org/" rel="nofollow - www.cancer.org http://www.cdc.gov/Other/disclaimer.html" rel="nofollow">External Web Site Icon .
  • Recurrent respiratory papillomatosis (RRP) can be treated with surgery or medicines. Curing RRP can sometimes require many treatments or surgeries over a period of years.


Posted By: Alias_Avi
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 5:02pm
Sick

Originally posted by melikey melikey wrote:

Originally posted by Alias_Avi Alias_Avi wrote:

Yous a lie

Originally posted by melikey melikey wrote:

most people have hpv at one point or another. i read it was about 80%. 
i thought it was known where his cancer came from before this announcement?
oral cancer is one of the reason they want to start vaccinating boys. 


pretty sure it's true. most people's bodies fight it off like the flu virus when the get it so they never know.


Posted By: melikey
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 5:04pm
ok more than 80%... i knew it was highLOL


Posted By: Lilaca
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 5:10pm
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Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 5:10pm
I didn't know it was that high either melikey. I know 2 girlfriends who had it but it went away.


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 5:13pm
There are 40 types of HPV so.....



Posted By: melikey
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 5:20pm
Originally posted by carolina cutie carolina cutie wrote:

I didn't know it was that high either melikey. I know 2 girlfriends who had it but it went away.

we're all just dodging bullets it seems! not sure when you'll be the one who's immune system won't put up the good fight!
*guzzles my can of v8*


Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 5:27pm
Right melikey?

*Soaks vagina in teflon*


Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 5:30pm
I wonder how many ppl actually use protection for
Oral sex, especially on a woman.


Posted By: ShadyLady
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 5:53pm
Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

I wonder how many ppl actually use protection for
Oral sex, especially on a woman.


Never, in my history of getting licked low, has a dude actually tried to use a dental dam.


Posted By: Chantal34
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 7:37pm
Originally posted by Alias_Avi Alias_Avi wrote:

"on a woman"

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m77v7oUPxu1ql3br0o1_400.gif


Glozell LMAO


Posted By: JamCaygirl
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 7:39pm
TMI!


Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 7:39pm
Originally posted by ShadyLady ShadyLady wrote:

Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

I wonder how many ppl actually use protection for
Oral sex, especially on a woman.


Never, in my history of getting licked low, has a dude actually tried to use a dental dam.

me too...i'd rather not get head at all if that came into the mix.  i took a flavored one home from a party and we tried it out of curiosity.  it was bad for the both of us...is that how people feel about not using condoms for intercourse? LOL


Posted By: babycakebabe
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 8:09pm
Im glad that he told the story b/c there needs to be an open dialogue on this. A huge percentage of people do not bother to get routine pap tests and men are not tested for HPV at all (also millions are uninsured long term) so when you add that up and then factor in that the test is not given until age 30, it is likely that a person will have it at some time or another. Dudes are not even tested for it when they have the tell tale dry patch/fine rash on their paynus. It is weird how the medical community hasnt pushed for testing for males and for people under 30...

Is there a test for HPV?

HPV tests are available to help screen women aged 30 years and older for cervical cancer. These HPV tests are not recommended to screen men, adolescents, or women under the age of 30 years. There is no general HPV test for men or women to check one's overall "HPV status." Also, there is not an approved HPV test to find HPV in the mouth or throat.




Posted By: ThatGurlD
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 8:32pm
Originally posted by carolina cutie carolina cutie wrote:

Who is at risk for HPV?

Anyone who is having (or has ever had) sex can get HPV. HPV is so common that nearly all sexually-active men and women get it at some point in their lives. This is true even for people who only have sex with one person in their lifetime.

Wait, what?  So even if I'm married, don't have HPV and neither does he, we could still get it?  I don't understand this.  I know the cells can change and that's why you get a pap smear but if the pap is clear you're straight right?  



Posted By: babycakebabe
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 8:36pm
Originally posted by ThatGurlD ThatGurlD wrote:

Originally posted by carolina cutie carolina cutie wrote:

Who is at risk for HPV?

Anyone who is having (or has ever had) sex can get HPV. HPV is so common that nearly all sexually-active men and women get it at some point in their lives. This is true even for people who only have sex with one person in their lifetime.

Wait, what?  So even if I'm married, don't have HPV and neither does he, we could still get it?  I don't understand this.  I know the cells can change and that's why you get a pap smear but if the pap is clear you're straight right?  


Your doctor may not test you for it until you are 35. Just b/c a doctor tells you that you are all clear disease wise does not mean that you have had an HPV test.


Posted By: SweetNovember*
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 8:38pm
He wrong for them young ass kids. They are cute though.


Posted By: SweetNovember*
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 8:39pm
Originally posted by Chantal34 Chantal34 wrote:


Glozell LMAO

That is too ugly.


Posted By: ThatGurlD
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 8:44pm
Originally posted by babycakebabe babycakebabe wrote:

Originally posted by ThatGurlD ThatGurlD wrote:

Originally posted by carolina cutie carolina cutie wrote:

Who is at risk for HPV?

Anyone who is having (or has ever had) sex can get HPV. HPV is so common that nearly all sexually-active men and women get it at some point in their lives. This is true even for people who only have sex with one person in their lifetime.

Wait, what?  So even if I'm married, don't have HPV and neither does he, we could still get it?  I don't understand this.  I know the cells can change and that's why you get a pap smear but if the pap is clear you're straight right?  


Your doctor may not test you for it until you are 35. Just b/c a doctor tells you that you are all clear disease wise does not mean that you have had an HPV test.

I get a pap every 2 years and I get this thing in the mail with the results and it specifically says neg for HPV.  This is crazy though.  I smoked for 14 years and quit 2 years ago.  I know that increases your risk.  I will never relapse on cigarettes again.  


Posted By: ThatGurlD
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 8:47pm
I don't think it's a TMI at all.  Hell I'm glad to hear about it.  I wonder if I can get Gardisil at my age.


Posted By: eanaj5
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 9:18pm
D, I think what she means is that people who have had sex are susceptible to the effects of HPV even after they've been married because the virus lays dormant until it is triggered...it may have been contracted years ago but not pop up until later in life. And currently there is no way to test males for it.


Posted By: ThatGurlD
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 9:37pm
Got it.  Lord knows I've had enough stresses that if it was there it would have come out in the past 10 years.  I hate Michael Douglas now.  He had me all scared I was gon have to give up the good good.


Posted By: keepgrowing
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 10:05pm
that's unfortunate and terrible. gardisal up. men can get the vaccine as well. my ex was in the navy and told me it was mandatory for military men to get the hpv vaccine.


Posted By: rickysrose
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 10:26pm
HPV can come and go .. you can have it in one pap smear and it can resolve itself by your next pap




Posted By: rickysrose
Date Posted: Jun 02 2013 at 10:27pm
what a scare ... glad he's in remission


Posted By: Az~Maverick
Date Posted: Jun 03 2013 at 2:42am

Ewww!

Yeah, he shoulda kept that info under wraps.....literally & figuratively!



Posted By: Prazol60
Date Posted: Jun 03 2013 at 3:38am
I wouldn't like my husband to come out like that but at the same time it is good he did it. I think many people didn't know it could cause cancer. It takes a person like him to raise real lasting awareness. Think of all those that were the first to come out with something and how much we now know.

Also to be given a death sentence and to fight it off is amazing. Some would have given up, get their papers in order and die.



Posted By: Printer_Ink
Date Posted: Jun 03 2013 at 5:03am
Hold on now...
 
So Catherine's cooty ... causes cancer?
 
Geesh, she's purdy .. but she ain't THAT purdy. LOL


Posted By: PurplePhase
Date Posted: Jun 03 2013 at 9:30pm
 I think  the latency period can be decades; he could have acquired it  20-30 years ago.


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Jun 03 2013 at 9:34pm
Well, maybe he's wife wasn't too happy about him revealing this to the world cause he's retracting now. Chances are she didn't have anything to do with it anyways, though. This man was a straight ho in his day. She even had him include a clause in their premarital contract about her getting X amount of extra millions if he cheated, so she knew about his past...
 
Michael Douglas Denies Saying Oral Sex Was The Cause Of His Throat Cancer
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/03/michael-douglas-oral-sex-cancer_n_3379654.html?view=print&comm_ref=false" rel="nofollow -

     

Michael Douglas
  
http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2F2013%2F06%2F03%2Fmichael-douglas-oral-sex-cancer_n_3379654.html&node_type=link&width=55&layout=box_count&colorscheme=light&show_faces=false&send=false&extended_social_context=false" rel="nofollow -
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                  http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2F2013%2F06%2F03%2Fmichael-douglas-oral-sex-cancer_n_3379654.html&node_type=link&width=55&layout=box_count&colorscheme=light&show_faces=false&send=false&extended_social_context=false" rel="nofollow - LONDON — Actor Michael Douglas taught the world at least one thing Monday: oral sex can sometimes cause cancer.

http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2F2013%2F06%2F03%2Fmichael-douglas-oral-sex-cancer_n_3379654.html&node_type=link&width=55&layout=box_count&colorscheme=light&show_faces=false&send=false&extended_social_context=false" rel="nofollow - In an interview published in the Guardian newspaper, Douglas appeared to blame his own battle with throat cancer on oral sex – although that interpretation was later disputed by one of his representatives.

http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2F2013%2F06%2F03%2Fmichael-douglas-oral-sex-cancer_n_3379654.html&node_type=link&width=55&layout=box_count&colorscheme=light&show_faces=false&send=false&extended_social_context=false" rel="nofollow - The Guardian quoted Douglas as attributing his illness to the HPV virus spread through oral sex. When asked about his cancer, Douglas said, "without wanting to get too specific, this particular cancer is caused by HPV (human papillomavirus), which actually comes from cunnilingus."

http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2F2013%2F06%2F03%2Fmichael-douglas-oral-sex-cancer_n_3379654.html&node_type=link&width=55&layout=box_count&colorscheme=light&show_faces=false&send=false&extended_social_context=false" rel="nofollow - In response, spokesman Allen Burry said Douglas never said oral sex was the cause of his own cancer, just one of the many causes.

http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2F2013%2F06%2F03%2Fmichael-douglas-oral-sex-cancer_n_3379654.html&node_type=link&width=55&layout=box_count&colorscheme=light&show_faces=false&send=false&extended_social_context=false" rel="nofollow - "In a discussion with the newspaper, they talked about the causes of oral cancer, one of which was oral sex, which is noted and has been known for a while now," Burry said.

http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2F2013%2F06%2F03%2Fmichael-douglas-oral-sex-cancer_n_3379654.html&node_type=link&width=55&layout=box_count&colorscheme=light&show_faces=false&send=false&extended_social_context=false" rel="nofollow - Health officials say smoking and drinking alcohol are the main causes of oral cancer, although the human papillomavirus has been linked to one kind of throat cancer. The human papillomavirus is mostly known for causing cervical cancer.

http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2F2013%2F06%2F03%2Fmichael-douglas-oral-sex-cancer_n_3379654.html&node_type=link&width=55&layout=box_count&colorscheme=light&show_faces=false&send=false&extended_social_context=false" rel="nofollow - Douglas also told the Guardian he didn't regret his years of smoking and drinking.

http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2F2013%2F06%2F03%2Fmichael-douglas-oral-sex-cancer_n_3379654.html&node_type=link&width=55&layout=box_count&colorscheme=light&show_faces=false&send=false&extended_social_context=false" rel="nofollow - A spokesman for the Guardian said in an email that the paper hadn't received any complaints about its interview either from Douglas or his representatives.

http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2F2013%2F06%2F03%2Fmichael-douglas-oral-sex-cancer_n_3379654.html&node_type=link&width=55&layout=box_count&colorscheme=light&show_faces=false&send=false&extended_social_context=false" rel="nofollow - Douglas has starred in many movies – including "Basic Instinct," "Fatal Attraction" and "Wall Street" – and is married to the actress Catherine Zeta-Jones. He is currently appearing in a biopic about Liberace titled "Behind the Candelabra."

http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2F2013%2F06%2F03%2Fmichael-douglas-oral-sex-cancer_n_3379654.html&node_type=link&width=55&layout=box_count&colorscheme=light&show_faces=false&send=false&extended_social_context=false" rel="nofollow -


Posted By: Prazol60
Date Posted: Jun 04 2013 at 2:26am
Smart Guardian taping the interview.


Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Jun 04 2013 at 2:29am
I really would like to know what his doctors actually told him but I guess I never will.


Posted By: PurplePhase
Date Posted: Jun 04 2013 at 2:58am
CC, did you see that doc on Piers M say that there had been a steep rise of oral cancers in recent years in US probably because 'oral sex is so popular in the US, well everywhere really.' That made me laugh lol.

 I was reading though that something like 70% of all oral cancers are caused by  HPV. Good news is they're easier to treat.


Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Jun 04 2013 at 3:27am
^Wut? Those numbers hopefully will go down with awareness.

I might just carry invest in some teflon spray. I don't want any problems.Stern SmileLOL



Posted By: PurplePhase
Date Posted: Jun 04 2013 at 3:38am
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/04/health/throat-cancer-link-to-oral-sex-gains-credence.html?_r=0" rel="nofollow - http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/04/health/throat-cancer-link-to-oral-sex-gains-credence.html?_r=0

I don't know if this was posted


Posted By: bunzaveli
Date Posted: Jun 04 2013 at 5:54am
are they divorced yet ?


Posted By: Az~Maverick
Date Posted: Jun 04 2013 at 6:57am
I personally knew someone who just finished his treatment for Stage 4 throat cancer, he had to go through 6 weeks of chemo and radiation treatments. When he got the diagnosis, the doc told him that "this type" of cancer is very treatable, but we never got anymore details than that. He's 54, never smoked, and drank very little but did have a promiscuous lifestyle in his younger years. Things that make you go hmmmm.......

His GF stood by his side during his treatments. Personally, I don't know if I'd be as understanding tbh.


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Jun 04 2013 at 7:17am
Originally posted by PurpleHaze PurpleHaze wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/04/health/throat-cancer-link-to-oral-sex-gains-credence.html?_r=0" rel="nofollow - http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/04/health/throat-cancer-link-to-oral-sex-gains-credence.html?_r=0

I don't know if this was posted
This is worrisome for all the women who enjoy their kisses down low. I hope this doesn't stop men in their tracks from wanting to make that kitty purr, lol.
 
The article also doesn't mention if this is valid for women as well.


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Jun 04 2013 at 7:19am
Originally posted by Az~Maverick Az~Maverick wrote:

I personally knew someone who just finished his treatment for Stage 4 throat cancer, he had to go through 6 weeks of chemo and radiation treatments. When he got the diagnosis, the doc told him that "this type" of cancer is very treatable, but we never got anymore details than that. He's 54, never smoked, and drank very little but did have a promiscuous lifestyle in his younger years. Things that make you go hmmmm.......

His GF stood by his side during his treatments. Personally, I don't know if I'd be as understanding tbh.
 
Why not? There is nothing to indicate that he was being promiscuous WHILE BEING WITH HER (if that's the case, then it's another story right there) and him developing the cancer did not put her at risk for cancer herself...


Posted By: Az~Maverick
Date Posted: Jun 04 2013 at 7:32am
Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by Az~Maverick Az~Maverick wrote:

I personally knew someone who just finished his treatment for Stage 4 throat cancer, he had to go through 6 weeks of chemo and radiation treatments. When he got the diagnosis, the doc told him that "this type" of cancer is very treatable, but we never got anymore details than that. He's 54, never smoked, and drank very little but did have a promiscuous lifestyle in his younger years. Things that make you go hmmmm.......

His GF stood by his side during his treatments. Personally, I don't know if I'd be as understanding tbh.
 
Why not? There is nothing to indicate that he was being promiscuous WHILE BEING WITH HER (if that's the case, then it's another story right there) and him developing the cancer did not put her at risk for cancer herself...


The reason I'm saying that is because there's a great chance he could have HPV as well. And if I was in that position, knowing he could pass it on to me, I wouldn't take it very well.


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Jun 04 2013 at 7:40am
Originally posted by Az~Maverick Az~Maverick wrote:

Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by Az~Maverick Az~Maverick wrote:

I personally knew someone who just finished his treatment for Stage 4 throat cancer, he had to go through 6 weeks of chemo and radiation treatments. When he got the diagnosis, the doc told him that "this type" of cancer is very treatable, but we never got anymore details than that. He's 54, never smoked, and drank very little but did have a promiscuous lifestyle in his younger years. Things that make you go hmmmm.......

His GF stood by his side during his treatments. Personally, I don't know if I'd be as understanding tbh.
 
Why not? There is nothing to indicate that he was being promiscuous WHILE BEING WITH HER (if that's the case, then it's another story right there) and him developing the cancer did not put her at risk for cancer herself...


The reason I'm saying that is because there's a great chance he could have HPV as well. And if I was in that position, knowing he could pass it on to me, I wouldn't take it very well.
 
Oh, I see. But from what I'm understanding from HPV related throat cancer (maybe I'm wrong) is that the HPV can be treated genitally yet still accumulate in the throat cells from oral sex. And that most people don't get this type of cancer because they fight off the virus in the first place. In a situation like this, it would mean that only oral sex placed him at risk in the first place and I don't know if it's detectable in the throat and if they have tests for it because they're just now making the link between HPV and throat cancer...


Posted By: Az~Maverick
Date Posted: Jun 04 2013 at 7:48am
And there are many HPV strains. It's a scary world out there. I think my batteries are becoming my best friends......Cry LOL


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Jun 04 2013 at 7:51am
Originally posted by Az~Maverick Az~Maverick wrote:

And there are many HPV strains. It's a scary world out there. I think my batteries are becoming my best friends......Cry LOL
 
LOLLOLLOLLOL I hear ya. I'd really like to know if women giving men head puts them at risk for throat cancer as well. Cuz I don't think most women perform oral sex with a condom on either. It's usually reserved for intercourse


Posted By: Az~Maverick
Date Posted: Jun 04 2013 at 7:55am
I'd like to know that too. If that's the case then we're ALL gonna be SOL...juss sayin. lol


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Jun 04 2013 at 7:59am
Originally posted by Az~Maverick Az~Maverick wrote:

I'd like to know that too. If that's the case then we're ALL gonna be SOL...juss sayin. lol
 
Lol


Posted By: keepgrowing
Date Posted: Jun 04 2013 at 8:09am
HPV is an STD. How do people think women get cervical cancer caused by HPV? It doesn't just pop out of the air. Intercourse with a penis gives them that. Hopefully this will shine a light on the vaccine and make it seem like a necessity for everybody. 


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Jun 04 2013 at 8:18am
Originally posted by keepgrowing keepgrowing wrote:

HPV is an STD. How do people think women get cervical cancer caused by HPV? It doesn't just pop out of the air. Intercourse with a penis gives them that. Hopefully this will shine a light on the vaccine and make it seem like a necessity for everybody. 
 
I think we all know that HPV is an STD and that women can get cervical cancer from it. What I don't know is whether a woman can get throat cancer from a man who has HPV cells accumulated behind his throat but does not have HPV genitally or has had that treated. The confusion lies in the oral sex connection for me.


Posted By: Jewelsnyc
Date Posted: Jun 04 2013 at 8:26am
Originally posted by Bored w/Out Me? Bored w/Out Me? wrote:

One womans can't but tons of alot of womens juices staying in the lining of Your throat is totally believable as the cause...
 
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: india100
Date Posted: Jun 04 2013 at 12:28pm
Happy he is ok . I hope folks don't panic like when HIV came out . Doc's can never remove your entire cervix . My mom went through paps until she died in her 80's . A small tip will remain for life . Paps are so important .


Posted By: Wildfire
Date Posted: Jun 04 2013 at 2:18pm
IMO, its not TMI
i think alot of people needed to know this....men are still walking up to strange women in clubs offering oral; taking turns giving strippers oral etc.



Posted By: Wildfire
Date Posted: Jun 04 2013 at 2:19pm
Originally posted by Jewelsnyc Jewelsnyc wrote:

Originally posted by Bored w/Out Me? Bored w/Out Me? wrote:

One womans can't but tons of alot of womens juices staying in the lining of Your throat is totally believable as the cause...
 
 
 
 
 
 



youre kidding yesLOL? i take it that even one woman with that particular strain of HPV that can lead to throat cancer




Posted By: Wildfire
Date Posted: Jun 04 2013 at 2:21pm
Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by keepgrowing keepgrowing wrote:

HPV is an STD. How do people think women get cervical cancer caused by HPV? It doesn't just pop out of the air. Intercourse with a penis gives them that. Hopefully this will shine a light on the vaccine and make it seem like a necessity for everybody. 
 
I think we all know that HPV is an STD and that women can get cervical cancer from it. What I don't know is whether a woman can get throat cancer from a man who has HPV cells accumulated behind his throat but does not have HPV genitally or has had that treated. The confusion lies in the oral sex connection for me.



the connection isnt that far fetched IMO...if i'm not mistaken cant you get genital HSV from oral contact with someone who has HSV1?
some HPV strains carries warts, which is where contagion occurs....im thinking if someone has the strain that causes cancer, and the warts, its pretty easy to pass on during oral
...


Posted By: nitabug
Date Posted: Jun 04 2013 at 2:31pm
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Posted By: FarraFace
Date Posted: Jun 04 2013 at 2:44pm
I get what BWOM is saying though and she's kinda right.

Eating yo wife for 30 years = 1 strain of HPV that you can fight off = no throat cancer.

Eating yo wife, her sister, yo neighbor's wife, the babysitter, yo secretary, yo dental hygenist, Judy from Time Life books, and err other va-jay-jay you come across encounter for 30 years = dozens of strains of HPV that yo old ass immune system can't handle = throat cancer.

I read that somewhere.


Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Jun 04 2013 at 2:54pm
LOL


Posted By: Lilaca
Date Posted: Jun 04 2013 at 3:02pm
Originally posted by FarraFace FarraFace wrote:

I get what BWOM is saying though and she's kinda right.

Eating yo wife for 30 years = 1 strain of HPV that you can fight off = no throat cancer.

Eating yo wife, her sister, yo neighbor's wife, the babysitter, yo secretary, yo dental hygenist, Judy from Time Life books, and err other va-jay-jay you come across encounter for 30 years = dozens of strains of HPV that yo old ass immune system can't handle = throat cancer.

I read that somewhere.
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