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Topic: Baby with HIV Cured .
Posted By: india100
Subject: Baby with HIV Cured .
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 4:19pm

Sun Mar 3, 2013 4:29pm EST

* Mississippi girl's case is the first account of an HIV cure in an infant

* Doctors started treatment within 30 hours of the child's birth

By Julie Steenhuysen

CHICAGO, March 3 (Reuters) - A baby girl in Mississippi who was born with HIV has been cured after very early treatment with standard drug therapy, U.S. researchers reported on Sunday, in a potentially ground-breaking case that could offer insights on how to eradicate HIV infection in its youngest victims.

The child's story is the first account of an infant achieving a so-called functional cure, a rare event in which a person achieves remission without the need for drugs and standard blood tests show no signs that the virus is making copies of itself.

More testing needs to be done to see if the treatment would have the same effect on other children, but the results could change the way high-risk babies are treated and possibly lead to a cure for children with HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.

"This is a proof of concept that HIV can be potentially curable in infants," said Dr. Deborah Persaud, a virologist at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, who presented the findings at the Conference on Retroviruses and Opportunistic Infections in Atlanta.

The child's story is different from the now famous case of Timothy Ray Brown, the so-called "Berlin patient," whose HIV infection was completely eradicated through an elaborate treatment for leukemia in 2007 that involved the destruction of his immune system and a stem cell transplant from a donor with a rare genetic mutation that resists HIV infection.

Instead of Brown's costly treatment, the Mississippi baby's case involved the use of a cocktail of widely available drugs already used to treat HIV infection in infants.

When the baby girl was born in a rural hospital, her mother had just tested positive for HIV infection. Because her mother had not received any prenatal HIV treatment, doctors knew the child was born at high risk of being infected. So they transferred the baby to the University of Mississippi Medical Center in Jackson, where she came under the care of Dr. Hannah Gay, a pediatric HIV specialist.

Because of her high infection risk, Dr. Gay put the infant on a cocktail of three standard HIV-fighting drugs when she was just 30 hours old, even before lab tests came back confirming her infection. In more typical pregnancies when an HIV-infected mother has been given drugs to reduce the risk of transmission to her child, the baby would only have been given a single drug to reduce her infection risk.

Researchers believe this early use of antiviral treatment likely resulted in the infant's cure by keeping the virus from forming hard-to-treat pools of cells known as viral reservoirs, which lie dormant and out of the reach of standard medications. These reservoirs rekindle HIV infection in patients who stop therapy, and they are the reason most HIV-infected individuals need lifelong treatment to keep the infection at bay.

10-MONTH GAP

After starting on treatment, the baby's immune system responded and tests showed levels of the virus were diminishing until it was undetectable 29 days after birth. The baby received regular treatment for 18 months, but then stopped coming to appointments for a period of about 10 months, when her mother said she was not given any treatment. The doctors did not say why the mother stopped coming.

When the child came back under the care of Dr. Gay, she ordered standard blood tests to see how the child was faring before resuming antiviral therapy.

What she found was surprising. The first blood test did not turn up any detectible levels of HIV. Neither did the second. And tests for HIV-specific antibodies - the standard clinical indicator of HIV infection - also remained negative.

"At that point, I knew I was dealing with a very unusual case," Dr. Gay said.

Baffled, Dr. Gay turned to her friend and longtime colleague, Dr. Katherine Luzuriaga of the University of Massachusetts, and she and Persaud did a series of sophisticated lab tests on the child's blood.

The first looked for silent reservoirs of the virus where it remains dormant but can replicate if activated. That is detected in a type of immune cell known as a CD4 T-cell. After culturing the child's cells, they found no sign of the virus.

Then, the team looked for HIV DNA, which indicates that the virus has integrated itself into the genetic material of the infected person. This test turned up such low levels that it was just above the limit of the test's ability to detect it.

The third test looked for bits of genetic material known as viral RNA. They only found a single copy of viral RNA in one of the two tests they ran.

Because there is no detectible virus in the child's blood, the team has advised that she not be given antiretroviral therapy (ART), whose goal is to block the virus from replicating in the blood. Instead, she will be monitored closely.

Dr. Rowena Johnston, vice president and director of research for the Foundation for AIDS Research, which helped fund the study, said the fact that the cure was achieved by antiretroviral therapy alone makes it "imperative that we learn more about a newborn's immune system, how it differs from an adult's and what factors made it possible for the child to be cured."

Because the child's treatment was stopped, the doctors were able to identify that this child had been cured, raising questions about whether other children who received early treatment and have undetectable viral loads may also be cured without knowing it.

But the doctors warned parents not to be tempted to take their children off treatment to see if the virus comes back. Normally, when patients stop taking their medications, the virus comes roaring back, and treatment interruptions increase the risk that the virus will develop drug resistance.

"We don't want that," Dr. Gay said. "Patients who are on successful therapy need to stay on their successful therapy until we figure out a whole lot more about what was going on with this child and what we can do for others in the future."

The researchers are trying to find biomarkers that would offer a rationale to consider stopping therapy within the context of a clinical trial. If they can learn what caused the child to clear her virus, they hope to replicate that in other babies, and eventually learn to routinely prevent infections. (Reporting by Julie Steenhuysen; Editing by Jilian Mincer and Sandra




Replies:
Posted By: Bored w/Out Me?
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 4:34pm
Alright Now


Posted By: AshBash89
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 4:34pm
I wonder why the mom stopped bringing the baby.  Anyway, this a great accomplishment and I am happy for the baby!


Posted By: india100
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 4:37pm
I think the baby will help so many people suffering .


Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 4:39pm
Confused why do ppl keep rating this down...this is a good thing!

i'm happy for the baby.  it is kind of scary to live in limbo though.  they're going to be monitoring her for years and years to come.


Posted By: Finesseful
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 4:40pm
You can live through anything if magic made it.


Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 4:41pm
Originally posted by Positive K Positive K wrote:

HIV is not what most people think it is

don't start that sh*t. Sleepy


Posted By: Finesseful
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 4:43pm
Originally posted by Positive K Positive K wrote:

HIV is not what most people think it is



What is it?


Posted By: sache1991
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 4:43pm
Originally posted by Positive K Positive K wrote:

HIV is not what most people think it is



Posted By: india100
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 4:46pm
Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

Confused why do ppl keep rating this down...this is a good thing!

i'm happy for the baby.  it is kind of scary to live in limbo though.  they're going to be monitoring her for years and years to come.
I would be so happy but in the back of mind i would worry .


Posted By: Jazmin89
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 4:46pm
Originally posted by Positive K Positive K wrote:

HIV is not what most people think it is
Dead


Posted By: sache1991
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 4:48pm
Originally posted by Jazmin89 Jazmin89 wrote:

Originally posted by Positive K Positive K wrote:

HIV is not what most people think it is
Dead

I bet you taste like water....Tongue


Posted By: ScorpioLuv
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 4:51pm
That's not new. Most babies if given drug therapy and/or the mom started when pregnant will rid themselves of the virus within 2 years.


Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 4:51pm
Originally posted by Positive K Positive K wrote:

Originally posted by Finesseful Finesseful wrote:

Originally posted by Positive K Positive K wrote:

HIV is not what most people think it is



What is it?

Let's just say...u can have HIV in one country...and be HIV free in another. Depends on the test. And the cure been out for years.  Funny how in this story the mother stopped taking the baby in and giving the baby medication and now the baby is HIV free?? But of course the doctors and for-profit medical experts want you to continue taking it even if you're supposedly HIV free.

ConfusedConfused  because some tests only test for the antibodies and others test your dna.

to the second part...everyone's immune system is different.  some ppl test positive for HIV and get sick and die within a couple yrs...others can live with HIV medication free and don't get sick for 10 yrs.


Posted By: Finesseful
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 4:52pm
Originally posted by Positive K Positive K wrote:


Originally posted by Finesseful Finesseful wrote:

Originally posted by Positive K Positive K wrote:

HIV is not what most people think it is



What is it?

Let's just say...u can have HIV in one country...and be HIV free in
another. Depends on the test. And the cure been out for years.  Funny how in this story the mother
stopped taking the baby in and giving the baby medication and now the
baby is HIV free?? But of course the doctors and for-profit medical experts want you
to continue taking it even if you're supposedly HIV free.


much like chemotherapy its a bunch of poison for the body?


Posted By: ScorpioLuv
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 4:52pm
Just like if ur exposed, ur given antivirals for 3 days and majority of the time will test negative afterward.


Posted By: sache1991
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 4:56pm
LOL, I'm going to start asking for credentials before Brothas be giving advice/opinions on a subject. LOL


Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:00pm
no...i'm regurgitating witnessing people live and die with HIV.

awkward.



Posted By: ScorpioLuv
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:02pm
I am very weary of what this country tells us regarding health. A few years ago they were pushing the sh*t out of Gaurdisil, come to find out that HPV is the most prevalent std amongst young people and for majority of them, it does nothing. The body rids itself of the virus all on its own in time. Nothing happens. That vaccine has been attributed to so many auto immune diseases women got right after one of their doses it's not funny. The vaccine was supposed to protect from one thing but then caused something else patients would have for life which you'll need another/other medication(s) to treat along with other periodic diagnostic tests and a whole new slew of doctors to treat. The medication caused more problems than it was supposed to solve and made pharmecutical companies even more money.

This country loves to make MONEY. Why cure anything, when u can make money off of letting people live with it? We can't even cure the common cold. But there's billions made every year off cold medication. Medicine is a BUSINESS people. Money makes America go 'round.


Posted By: Finesseful
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:02pm
Shad is probably trolling but I do believe there is a cure for hiv. They just not gone tell no black folks about it


Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:05pm
i do believe that the pharmaceutical+gov companies are evil and def take advantage of any way to obtain more money.

i can get with the idea that there are better forms of treatment hidden from us but i can't get with ppl who think HIV is a flat out myth and doesn't even exist in the body.  i can't believe ppl think that way.


Posted By: india100
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:05pm
Can we be happy for the baby ? The child may be black , which would help so many of our children . Approve


Posted By: Prtybrwneye_z
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:09pm
This is great for the baby and could benefit many others. I am curious about the significant lapse of time in which the infant didn't treatment or monitoring by that specific doctor and wonder if the mother took her else where or if she received any other type of intervention during that time.


Posted By: sache1991
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:12pm
Originally posted by ScorpioLuv ScorpioLuv wrote:

I am very weary of what this country tells us regarding health. A few years ago they were pushing the sh*t out of Gaurdisil, come to find out that HPV is the most prevalent std amongst young people and for majority of them, it does nothing. The body rids itself of the virus all on its own in time. Nothing happens. That vaccine has been attributed to so many auto immune diseases women got right after one of their doses it's not funny.

This country loves to make MONEY. Why cure anything, when u can make money off of letting people live with it? We can't even cure the common cold. But there's billions made every year off cold medication. Medicine is a BUSINESS people. Money makes America go 'round.

Confused


Posted By: nycdiva357
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:14pm
 yay for the baby



but yeah
nigruhs  n science



Posted By: sache1991
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:15pm
Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

i do believe that the pharmaceutical+gov companies are evil and def take advantage of any way to obtain more money.

i can get with the idea that there are better forms of treatment hidden from us but i can't get with ppl who think HIV is a flat out myth and doesn't even exist in the body.  i can't believe ppl think that way.

Brothas think 9/11 is a inside job, Katrina was by the government and that the Illuminati has Kanye and Jay-Z as members. Confused


Posted By: eanaj5
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:16pm
Originally posted by Positive K Positive K wrote:

HIV is not what most people think it is

Im actually going to co-sign this... I found out some shocking sh*t recently that has me going "hmmmmm"


Posted By: india100
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:16pm
Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

i do believe that the pharmaceutical+gov companies are evil and def take advantage of any way to obtain more money.

i can get with the idea that there are better forms of treatment hidden from us but i can't get with ppl who think HIV is a flat out myth and doesn't even exist in the body.  i can't believe ppl think that way.
I agree and see the side effects often . Children will break your Heart .
I was very afraid as a Nurse to take care of anyone with HIV until I found out the facts. People like MJ can afford to get specific cocktails that work on a indiviual immune system bases .
 


Posted By: ScorpioLuv
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:18pm
Originally posted by sache1991 sache1991 wrote:


Originally posted by ScorpioLuv ScorpioLuv wrote:

I am very weary of what this country tells us regarding health. A few years ago they were pushing the sh*t out of Gaurdisil, come to find out that HPV is the most prevalent std amongst young people and for majority of them, it does nothing. The body rids itself of the virus all on its own in time. Nothing happens. That vaccine has been attributed to so many auto immune diseases women got right after one of their doses it's not funny.

This country loves to make MONEY. Why cure anything, when u can make money off of letting people live with it? We can't even cure the common cold. But there's billions made every year off cold medication. Medicine is a BUSINESS people. Money makes America go 'round.


Confused
You know it's true. I have a cold now. Lol. We haven't cured anything since polio. Normal cold meds cost around $5 a pop. You normally might go through two in a week, especially if u have day and night formulations. Multiply that by 2 weeks to get over it. That's already $20. Now multiply that by how many people in America get a cold every year. Now how many billions of dollars is that?

Don't worry,I'll wait.


Posted By: Finesseful
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:19pm
Originally posted by sache1991 sache1991 wrote:


Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

i do believe that the pharmaceutical+gov companies are evil and def take advantage of any way to obtain more money.

i can get with the idea that there are better forms of treatment hidden from us but i can't get with ppl who think HIV is a flat out myth and doesn't even exist in the body.  i can't believe ppl think that way.


Brothas think 9/11 is a inside job, Katrina was by the government and that the Illuminati has Kanye and Jay-Z as members. Confused


9/11 was an inside job...


Posted By: india100
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:19pm
Originally posted by eanaj5 eanaj5 wrote:

Originally posted by Positive K Positive K wrote:

HIV is not what most people think it is

Im actually going to co-sign this... I found out some shocking sh*t recently that has me going "hmmmmm"
Please share .


Posted By: eanaj5
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:21pm
riddle me this...
A man has been infected with hiv for over 20 years
never took any of the anti retroviral drugs
he's married and has a son who's 19
both wife and son are hiv negative and the couple does NOT use condoms

He's in pretty good condition, even had stage 4 cancer not long ago and bounced back...

Whats going on in this story?^
Geek

*The man in the story is one of my dad's friends from waaaay back. So I know its no lie.


Posted By: Finesseful
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:23pm
Yo daddy friend magic johnson?


Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:23pm
nvm  


Posted By: india100
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:25pm
Originally posted by eanaj5 eanaj5 wrote:

riddle me this...
A man has been infected with hiv for over 20 years
never took any of the anti retroviral drugs
he's married and has a son who's 19
both wife and son are hiv negative and the couple does NOT use condoms

He's in pretty good condition, even had stage 4 cancer not long ago and bounced back...

Whats going on in this story?^
Geek

*The man in the story is one of my dad's friends from waaaay back. So I know its no lie.
My first response would be God .  Some people are immune . 
 
In the late 1990s, researchers showed that a very high percentage of those naturally HIV-immune people, who represent about one in 200 infected individuals, carry a gene called HLA B57. Now a team of researchers from the Ragon Institute of Massachusetts General Hospital, MIT and Harvard has revealed a new effect that contributes to this gene’s ability to confer immunity


Posted By: oh_so_moody
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:25pm
From the article: "Because of her high infection risk, Dr. Gay put the infant on a cocktail of three standard HIV-fighting drugs when she was just 30 hours old, even before lab tests came back confirming her infection."
 
 
So they actually have no substantial evidence to confirm the child was even HIV positive to begin with? Question
I'm all for groundbreaking medical treatments but unfortunately there is no true validity nor reliability to this treatment/
 
This (to me) sounds more like a test tube and a dream. I'd hate to instill such a strong sense of false hope in parents by publishing this.....
 
I hope it does work but I would need more background to invest into it. I'm glad the child is HIV negative nonetheless.
 
 


Posted By: eanaj5
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:26pm
lmao, nah he a regla joe.

Wonderland, im not understanding, unless you mean her immune system is dumb strong...
but then how does this explain how he hasnt gotten ill from the virus and its been about 23 years? and they do have unprotected sex


Posted By: oh_so_moody
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:26pm
Originally posted by Finesseful Finesseful wrote:

Yo daddy friend magic johnson?
 
Get yo mutha ass in the corner. NOW!!!! AngryAngryAngryAngry


Posted By: sache1991
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:27pm
Originally posted by Finesseful Finesseful wrote:

Originally posted by sache1991 sache1991 wrote:


Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

i do believe that the pharmaceutical+gov companies are evil and def take advantage of any way to obtain more money.

i can get with the idea that there are better forms of treatment hidden from us but i can't get with ppl who think HIV is a flat out myth and doesn't even exist in the body.  i can't believe ppl think that way.


Brothas think 9/11 is a inside job, Katrina was by the government and that the Illuminati has Kanye and Jay-Z as members. Confused


9/11 was an inside job...

Proof other than conspiracy videos from Youtube? How do you pick and choose what off the wall story? 


Posted By: ScorpioLuv
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:30pm
Originally posted by eanaj5 eanaj5 wrote:

riddle me this...
A man has been infected with hiv for over 20 years
never took any of the anti retroviral drugs
he's married and has a son who's 19
both wife and son are hiv negative and the couple does NOT use condoms

He's in pretty good condition, even had stage 4 cancer not long ago and bounced back...

Whats going on in this story?^
Geek

*The man in the story is one of my dad's friends from waaaay back. So I know its no lie.



For the cancer part, I know people that had cancer and/or an autoimmune disease and then changed their diet to fruits and veggies almost organic bc they planted their own garden. Have been in remission ever since. Cancer gone. Gershon Therapy. They did it even before knowing about it.


Posted By: ScorpioLuv
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:32pm
Originally posted by sache1991 sache1991 wrote:



Originally posted by Finesseful Finesseful wrote:

Originally posted by sache1991 sache1991 wrote:


Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

i do believe that the pharmaceutical+gov companies are evil and def take advantage of any way to obtain more money.

i can get with the idea that there are better forms of treatment hidden from us but i can't get with ppl who think HIV is a flat out myth and doesn't even exist in the body.  i can't believe ppl think that way.


Brothas think 9/11 is a inside job, Katrina was by the government and that the Illuminati has Kanye and Jay-Z as members. Confused


9/11 was an inside job...


Proof other than conspiracy videos from Youtube? How do you pick and choose what off the wall story? 

You one of those people that America has succeed in fooling with all their bullsh*t. Proof that propaganda works.


Posted By: sache1991
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:38pm
Originally posted by ScorpioLuv ScorpioLuv wrote:

Originally posted by sache1991 sache1991 wrote:



Originally posted by Finesseful Finesseful wrote:

Originally posted by sache1991 sache1991 wrote:


Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

i do believe that the pharmaceutical+gov companies are evil and def take advantage of any way to obtain more money.

i can get with the idea that there are better forms of treatment hidden from us but i can't get with ppl who think HIV is a flat out myth and doesn't even exist in the body.  i can't believe ppl think that way.


Brothas think 9/11 is a inside job, Katrina was by the government and that the Illuminati has Kanye and Jay-Z as members. Confused


9/11 was an inside job...


Proof other than conspiracy videos from Youtube? How do you pick and choose what off the wall story? 

You one of those people that America has succeed in fooling with all their bullsh*t. Proof that propaganda works.

Miss me with that, hood mouse. You have no idea what I believe. I'd be the last Brotha to call myself patriotic. Supposedly America has fooled me with bullsh*t, but you Brothas believe Michael Moore documentaries and Youtube videos from deranged people as credible sources. I asked for proof and got none. 


Posted By: india100
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:38pm
I really miss and think about member Ricardo . The man was is a expert in HIV /AIDS .


Posted By: Finesseful
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:57pm
How isn't 9/11 an inside job diccky?


Posted By: keepgrowing
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 5:59pm
Originally posted by india100 india100 wrote:

Originally posted by eanaj5 eanaj5 wrote:

riddle me this...
A man has been infected with hiv for over 20 years
never took any of the anti retroviral drugs
he's married and has a son who's 19
both wife and son are hiv negative and the couple does NOT use condoms

He's in pretty good condition, even had stage 4 cancer not long ago and bounced back...

Whats going on in this story?^
Geek

*The man in the story is one of my dad's friends from waaaay back. So I know its no lie.
My first response would be God .  Some people are immune . 
 
In the late 1990s, researchers showed that a very high percentage of those naturally HIV-immune people, who represent about one in 200 infected individuals, carry a gene called HLA B57. Now a team of researchers from the Ragon Institute of Massachusetts General Hospital, MIT and Harvard has revealed a new effect that contributes to this gene’s ability to confer immunity

Interesting! I know some people are immune to HIV because they have a mutant receptor on their T cells disallowing HIV from entering. On a normal person, they have these receptors that HIV can use to get into their cells. So this might be the gene that causes that defect.


Posted By: Az~Maverick
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 6:02pm
Originally posted by india100 india100 wrote:



I really miss and think about member Ricardo . The man was is a expert in HIV /AIDS .


Wonder whatever happened to him? I loved his post.


Posted By: india100
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 6:19pm
Originally posted by Az~Maverick Az~Maverick wrote:

Originally posted by india100 india100 wrote:



I really miss and think about member Ricardo . The man was is a expert in HIV /AIDS .


Wonder whatever happened to him? I loved his post.
I Spoke to Ricardo last year . I lost his private email address . I Think he became bored lol .


Posted By: keepgrowing
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 6:23pm
Originally posted by eanaj5 eanaj5 wrote:

riddle me this...
A man has been infected with hiv for over 20 years
never took any of the anti retroviral drugs
he's married and has a son who's 19
both wife and son are hiv negative and the couple does NOT use condoms

He's in pretty good condition, even had stage 4 cancer not long ago and bounced back...

Whats going on in this story?^
Geek

*The man in the story is one of my dad's friends from waaaay back. So I know its no lie.

When an HIV person's HIV viral load is really low, it is difficult to infect a person, but they still have it. And that is why MJ regretted going on TV talking about his viral low being so low and not emphasizing that he still has HIV. MJ's wife doesn't have HIV either. When your viral load is high then it relatively easy to infect someone. But what type of cancer did he have because HIV infected people can get rare cancers and that could have possibly been prevented if he took the drugs. HIV causes AIDS which pretty much eradicates that person's immune system. And him saying he never took medication isn't impressive. That is part of the reason why HIV is dangerous because you have no clue you have it, which is why they recommend people get tested on a regular basis if they are in a relationship. All I have to say is use condoms!


Posted By: ScorpioLuv
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 6:27pm
Originally posted by sache1991 sache1991 wrote:


Originally posted by ScorpioLuv ScorpioLuv wrote:

Originally posted by sache1991 sache1991 wrote:



Originally posted by Finesseful Finesseful wrote:

Originally posted by sache1991 sache1991 wrote:


Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

i do believe that the pharmaceutical+gov companies are evil and def take advantage of any way to obtain more money.

i can get with the idea that there are better forms of treatment hidden from us but i can't get with ppl who think HIV is a flat out myth and doesn't even exist in the body.  i can't believe ppl think that way.


Brothas think 9/11 is a inside job, Katrina was by the government and that the Illuminati has Kanye and Jay-Z as members. Confused


9/11 was an inside job...


Proof other than conspiracy videos from Youtube? How do you pick and choose what off the wall story? 

You one of those people that America has succeed in fooling with all their bullsh*t. Proof that propaganda works.


Miss me with that, hood mouse. You have no idea what I believe. I'd be the last Brotha to call myself patriotic. Supposedly America has fooled me with bullsh*t, but you Brothas believe Michael Moore documentaries and Youtube videos from deranged people as credible sources. I asked for proof and got none. 
Hood mouse my ass. Atleast I havent be hoodwinked. Do your own research. People will believe whatever theyre told bc they won't do exactly what ur refusing to do, ur OWN RESEARCH.


Posted By: eanaj5
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 6:29pm
No, he found out shortly after they got together in the late 80's i believe. I didnt mention he didnt take medicine to impress anyone and i doubt he told my dad that to impress him either. From what my dad told me they believe in God to protect their family and I suppose so far it has worked. The man is in decent health to be in his mid 50's and living with the disease for over 20 years.His other health problems are not related to hiv infection i dont think




Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 6:31pm
Originally posted by eanaj5 eanaj5 wrote:

No, he found out shortly after they got together in the late 80's i believe. I didnt mention he didnt take medicine to impress anyone and i doubt he told my dad that to impress him either. From what my dad told me they believe in God to protect their family and I suppose so far it has worked. The man is in decent health to be in his mid 50's and living with the disease for over 20 years.His other health problems are not related to hiv infection i dont think



you wouldn't know that.  Also, we really don't know the HIV status of the wife or whether she even bothers to get tested, and how often.  we only know what status they claim.  But like Keeping said, it is still possible for her to be immune.  Would this story make you trust having unprotected sex with a known HIV positive person?


Posted By: ScorpioLuv
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 6:33pm
Originally posted by keepgrowing keepgrowing wrote:





Originally posted by eanaj5 eanaj5 wrote:

riddle me this...
A man has been infected with hiv for over 20 years
never took any of the anti retroviral drugs
he's married and has a son who's 19
both wife and son are hiv negative and the couple does NOT use condoms

He's in pretty good condition, even had stage 4 cancer not long ago and bounced back...

Whats going on in this story?^
Geek

*The man in the story is one of my dad's friends from waaaay back. So I know its no lie.




When an HIV person's HIV viral load is really low, it is difficult to infect a person, but they still have it. And that is why MJ regretted going on TV talking about his viral low being so low and not emphasizing that he still has HIV. MJ's wife doesn't have HIV either. When your viral load is high then it relatively easy to infect someone. But what type of cancer did he have because HIV infected people can get rare cancers and that could have possibly been prevented if he took the drugs. HIV causes AIDS which pretty much eradicates that person's immune system. And him saying he never took medication isn't impressive. That is part of the reason why HIV is dangerous because you have no clue you have it, which is why they recommend people get tested on a regular basis if they are in a relationship. All I have to say is use condoms!



Very true, people taking the new drugs will have a viral load so low that they will pass a HIV test. BUT THEY WILL STILL HAVE IT. Sadly, I can see people misleading others by having them believe they're negative when they aren't. Couple gets tested together and both test negative. If you saw ur bf's negative reselults and he didn't say anything, wouldn't u believe he was negative?


Posted By: keepgrowing
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 6:35pm
Originally posted by eanaj5 eanaj5 wrote:

No, he found out shortly after they got together in the late 80's i believe. I didnt mention he didnt take medicine to impress anyone and i doubt he told my dad that to impress him either. From what my dad told me they believe in God to protect their family and I suppose so far it has worked. The man is in decent health to be in his mid 50's and living with the disease for over 20 years.His other health problems are not related to hiv infection i dont think



Ya I wasn't saying impressed to insult anyone. And if he is in great shape, that is good to hear. 


Posted By: eanaj5
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 6:36pm
hell naw!  i dont do unprotected period. but his other health issue is diabetes so i doubt that that is hiv related
I know that there are special cases and this story isnt a model or an excuse to have unprotected sex. That would be stupid. Im just giving an example as to why i agree with Dictionary's post on pg 1.
Relax people, i'm not telling ppl to go raw Sleepy
USE CONDOMS EVERY TIME.


Posted By: soarlikecruz
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 6:37pm
i meant to 5 star this thread, I think I accidently 1 starred though:(


Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 6:39pm
so he has HIV, cancer, and diabetes?  he just said fck any form of healthy living eh? 


Posted By: keepgrowing
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 6:39pm
Thanks for sharing India! This was a good read.


Posted By: india100
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 6:50pm
Stern Smile


Posted By: Finesseful
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 6:58pm
Cancer is a common disease gotten by people with hiv/aids.


Posted By: india100
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 7:11pm
Originally posted by soarlikecruz soarlikecruz wrote:

i meant to 5 star this thread, I think I accidently 1 starred though:(
Thank you . I  think the baby will help a lot people in the future .


Posted By: teendiva
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 9:30pm
That's cool. I'm sure mama's happy. I've never seen "detectible" spelled like that. 


Posted By: india100
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 9:40pm
[QUOTE=teendiva]That's cool. I'm sure mama's happy. I've never seen "detectible" spelled like that.  [/QUOTE  I would be crying with joy . Nothing but a blessing .


Posted By: ScorpioLuv
Date Posted: Mar 03 2013 at 10:26pm
Originally posted by india100 india100 wrote:


Originally posted by teendiva teendiva wrote:

That's cool. I'm sure mama's happy. I've never seen "detectible" spelled like that. 

  I would be crying with joy . Nothing but a blessing .
I honestly wonder, since it was the mother that stopped giving the baby antivirals after a year and a half all on her own


Posted By: india100
Date Posted: Mar 04 2013 at 8:35am
Originally posted by ScorpioLuv ScorpioLuv wrote:

Originally posted by india100 india100 wrote:


Originally posted by teendiva teendiva wrote:

That's cool. I'm sure mama's happy. I've never seen "detectible" spelled like that. 

  I would be crying with joy . Nothing but a blessing .
I honestly wonder, since it was the mother that stopped giving the baby antivirals after a year and a half all on her own
I think she put it in God's Hand.  Imagine a baby on HIV Meds . Cry


Posted By: Ladybird0724
Date Posted: Mar 04 2013 at 12:52pm
Originally posted by oh_so_moody oh_so_moody wrote:

From the article: "Because of her high infection risk, Dr. Gay put the infant on a cocktail of three standard HIV-fighting drugs when she was just 30 hours old, even before lab tests came back confirming her infection."
 
 
So they actually have no substantial evidence to confirm the child was even HIV positive to begin with? Question
I'm all for groundbreaking medical treatments but unfortunately there is no true validity nor reliability to this treatment/
 
This (to me) sounds more like a test tube and a dream. I'd hate to instill such a strong sense of false hope in parents by publishing this.....
 
I hope it does work but I would need more background to invest into it. I'm glad the child is HIV negative nonetheless.
 
 


i missed that one part about not confirming the baby's infection...i would assume that they put the baby on it due to the mother not having any prenatal care during most of her pregnancy. i also wonder why the mother stopped giving the child medicine...

i hope that this wasn't a fluke and they can replicate this again...that would be amazing.


Posted By: sistagal
Date Posted: Mar 04 2013 at 4:07pm
Wow! Hope that's a wonderful beginning of progress in curing the disease!


Posted By: Nijjah25
Date Posted: Mar 04 2013 at 5:35pm
Lmao@ diccy not knowing anything about 9/11



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