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Topic: Yall think the cruelty of slavery days are over..
Posted By: pattigurlatl
Subject: Yall think the cruelty of slavery days are over..
Date Posted: Feb 12 2013 at 7:40am
...but they are not. Sure it happens less frequently but once is too much.



Warren Lee Hill, a man with a mental disability currently on death row in a Georgia prison, is scheduled to be executed on Feb. 19 despite a Supreme Court decision outlawing capital punishment for criminals who are mentally retarded.

On Feb. 5, the office of state Attorney General Samuel Olens released a statement confirming Hill's execution date.

From the release:
On February 5, 2013, the Superior Court of Lee County filed an order, setting the seven-day window in which the execution of Warren Lee Hill may occur to begin at noon, February 19, 2013, and ending seven days later at noon on February 26, 2013.
Hill, who was sentenced to death for the 1990 murder of Joseph Handspike, had his execution halted in July after he made an appeal based on Georgia's recent switch to a new execution method, which involves the injection of a single drug called pentobarbital -- a drug often used for euthanizing animals. (Previously, the state had used a three-drug cocktail for its lethal injections, according to The Associated Press.)

But on Feb. 4, Hill's chances of survival were dashed when a State Supreme Court judge struck down his appeal.

Superior Court Judge Thomas H. Wilson ruled in July that Hill met the criteria for mental retardation by a “preponderance of evidence” but found that Hill did not meet Georgia’s strict definition for mental disability.

Georgia is the only state in the country that requires mental disability to be proved beyond a reasonable doubt, the New York Times notes. Hill’s lawyer Brian Kammer told previously told The Huffington Post that his client's IQ was rougly 70, and that his mental capacity peaked at the development of a sixth-grader.

Although the Supreme Court case Atkins vs. Virginia ruled in 2002 that executing prisoners who are mentally disabled violates the Eighth Amendment, the ruling left it up to states to define who falls into that category.

As Think Progress points out, only the Supreme Court can stop Hill's execution at this point. The Supreme Court, however, refused to review Hill's case in June.

Both The New York Times and former U.S. President Jimmy Carter have advocated on Hill's behalf, saying he shouldn't be put to death for his crimes. Even the family of Hill's victim filed an affidavit in June, recommending that Hill not be put to death. The statement said the victim's family "feels strongly that persons with any kind of significant mental disabilities should not be put to death.”

Hill was serving a life sentence for the 1986 murder of his girlfriend when his crime against Handspike, another inmate, took place.

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Harriet Tubman - I freed a thousands slaves. I would have freed more had they known they were slaves.

Michael Harriot - She wouldn't have freed any if she was worried about her hair.



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Posted By: Limalady
Date Posted: Feb 12 2013 at 8:28am
I'm not sure that I view this as cruelty on the level of slavery. Do I view it as a human rights violation and against international custom? Yes. Is it tantamount to the cruelty of slavery? Not so much. Innocent people were killed and tortured during slavery. This is slightly different. But the cruelty during that time does revisit us in sporadic hate crimes, so it does still occur.


Posted By: Naturalchick30
Date Posted: Feb 12 2013 at 8:35am
Originally posted by Limalady Limalady wrote:

I'm not sure that I view this as cruelty on the level of slavery. Do I view it as a human rights violation and against international custom? Yes. Is it tantamount to the cruelty of slavery? Not so much. Innocent people were killed and tortured during slavery. This is slightly different. But the cruelty during that time does revisit us in sporadic hate crimes, so it does still occur.
 
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Posted By: india100
Date Posted: Feb 12 2013 at 8:37am
I always think of Clarence Thomas wasteful seat on the supreme court when I hear about stories like above . I think killing mentally Ill people only adds to the Serious Problem .

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Posted By: BrownQtee
Date Posted: Feb 12 2013 at 9:00am
Don't really know how I feel about this. If it was my relative that he killed, I would want him dead too.


Posted By: laceyfront
Date Posted: Feb 12 2013 at 9:05am

I don't know what this is but it isn't right.



Posted By: texasmami0117
Date Posted: Feb 12 2013 at 9:15am

Mixed feelings. But why the switch to Pentobarbital Georgia? I've heard horror stories that that stuff doesn't kill the animals quick enough from people who work at animal control. They called it torture.



Posted By: pattigurlatl
Date Posted: Feb 12 2013 at 1:52pm
Y'all aren't getting the parallels. He is got a life sentence for killing a black woman but death for killing a white person in prison. It has been proven that he has the mental capacity of a child and even though it is illegal to execute someone with this kind of mental capacity, it is still being done. Why?



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Harriet Tubman - I freed a thousands slaves. I would have freed more had they known they were slaves.

Michael Harriot - She wouldn't have freed any if she was worried about her hair.


Posted By: Derri
Date Posted: Feb 12 2013 at 2:46pm
Because he is a black man.


Posted By: BoutThatLife
Date Posted: Feb 12 2013 at 3:39pm
Originally posted by BrownQtee BrownQtee wrote:

Don't really know how I feel about this. If it was my relative that he killed, I would want him dead too.

IA

Comparing this to slavery is an insult to enslaved ppl. Idk how you can even compare

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Posted By: pattigurlatl
Date Posted: Feb 12 2013 at 6:35pm
People failing to recognize that inequity in the legal system towards blacks stems  from the same legal system that supported slavery is THE worst insult to our heritage and ancestry EVER.

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Harriet Tubman - I freed a thousands slaves. I would have freed more had they known they were slaves.

Michael Harriot - She wouldn't have freed any if she was worried about her hair.


Posted By: dee1672
Date Posted: Feb 12 2013 at 7:14pm
Originally posted by india100 india100 wrote:

I always think of Clarence Thomas wasteful seat on the supreme court when I hear about stories like above . I think killing mentally Ill people only adds to the Serious Problem .


How has he been wasteful? I always wonder how much black people actually know about him when they make statements like this......



Posted By: dee1672
Date Posted: Feb 12 2013 at 7:17pm
I need more details regarding the first murder and the murder while he was incarcerated. I too don't see how this remotely resembles slavery. I think that there are other labels and comparisons to incite an emotional or enraged response. Comparing this to slavery is not................


Posted By: Naturalchick30
Date Posted: Feb 12 2013 at 7:28pm
Originally posted by pattigurlatl pattigurlatl wrote:

People failing to recognize that inequity in the legal system towards
blacks stems  from the same legal system that supported slavery is THE
worst insult to our heritage and ancestry EVER.






True...

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Posted By: pattigurlatl
Date Posted: Feb 12 2013 at 7:31pm
Originally posted by dee1672 dee1672 wrote:

I need more details regarding the first murder and the murder while he was incarcerated. I too don't see how this remotely resembles slavery. I think that there are other labels and comparisons to incite an emotional or enraged response. Comparing this to slavery is not................
It's the first ignoring what is already written as law to make an exception because the perpertrator is black and the victim is white. God I can't believe I have to explain this after everything I've posted.

INEQUITY, IMBALANCE.

Why did he not get the death penalty for killing his black girlfriend? Are you guys all saying that you agree black lives mean less?

No wonder slavery existed.



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Harriet Tubman - I freed a thousands slaves. I would have freed more had they known they were slaves.

Michael Harriot - She wouldn't have freed any if she was worried about her hair.


Posted By: AshBash89
Date Posted: Feb 12 2013 at 7:43pm
TBH I didn't even read the story.  I always get EXTRA salty towards White people during BHM(lol) and I've been ready to pull a Nat Turner lately.  I can't take anymore.


Posted By: Limalady
Date Posted: Feb 12 2013 at 7:45pm
I understand the outrage Patti. I think based on your other posts this week (directly related to slavery) and the title of the OP (Y'all think the cruelty of slavery days are over) people (well, I) came into the thread expecting lynching, murder of an innocent person, etc. If the thread said, "If you think inequality is dead" or "Another example of the racial disparity in the criminal justice system" the slavery references may not have been made. I agree with you though, Black men are treated the worst by our currently criminal code. It is disgusting, and we should do all we can to effect change in that regard.


Posted By: dee1672
Date Posted: Feb 12 2013 at 7:47pm
Originally posted by pattigurlatl pattigurlatl wrote:

Originally posted by dee1672 dee1672 wrote:

I need more details regarding the first murder and the murder while he was incarcerated. I too don't see how this remotely resembles slavery. I think that there are other labels and comparisons to incite an emotional or enraged response. Comparing this to slavery is not................
It's the first ignoring what is already written as law to make an exception because the perpertrator is black and the victim is white. God I can't believe I have to explain this after everything I've posted.

INEQUITY, IMBALANCE.

Why did he not get the death penalty for killing his black girlfriend? Are you guys all saying that you agree black lives mean less?

No wonder slavery existed.



I cant walk around angry all the time because of every perceived injustice towards black people. I take situations on a case by case basis. And I haven't said anything about anybody's life (black, red, white, etc.). There are plenty of people who have murdered multiple times and only got heavier sentences after the second murder. Of course, he received the heaviest sentence of all, death. Facts do matter. Maybe I missed them. I'll go back and re-read the thread. And im not even being factious.


Posted By: pattigurlatl
Date Posted: Feb 12 2013 at 7:58pm
Originally posted by Limalady Limalady wrote:

I understand the outrage Patti. I think based on your other posts this week (directly related to slavery) and the title of the OP (Y'all think the cruelty of slavery days are over) people (well, I) came into the thread expecting lynching, murder of an innocent person, etc. If the thread said, "If you think inequality is dead" or "Another example of the racial disparity in the criminal justice system" the slavery references may not have been made. I agree with you though, Black men are treated the worst by our currently criminal code. It is disgusting, and we should do all we can to effect change in that regard.
ok i could have worded it better.

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Harriet Tubman - I freed a thousands slaves. I would have freed more had they known they were slaves.

Michael Harriot - She wouldn't have freed any if she was worried about her hair.


Posted By: pattigurlatl
Date Posted: Feb 12 2013 at 8:03pm
Originally posted by dee1672 dee1672 wrote:

Originally posted by pattigurlatl pattigurlatl wrote:

Originally posted by dee1672 dee1672 wrote:

I need more details regarding the first murder and the murder while he was incarcerated. I too don't see how this remotely resembles slavery. I think that there are other labels and comparisons to incite an emotional or enraged response. Comparing this to slavery is not................
It's the first ignoring what is already written as law to make an exception because the perpertrator is black and the victim is white. God I can't believe I have to explain this after everything I've posted.

INEQUITY, IMBALANCE.

Why did he not get the death penalty for killing his black girlfriend? Are you guys all saying that you agree black lives mean less?

No wonder slavery existed.



I cant walk around angry all the time because of every perceived injustice towards black people. I take situations on a case by case basis. And I haven't said anything about anybody's life (black, red, white, etc.). There are plenty of people who have murdered multiple times and only got heavier sentences after the second murder. Of course, he received the heaviest sentence of all, death. Facts do matter. Maybe I missed them. I'll go back and re-read the thread. And im not even being factious.
perceived? its right there in print!


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Harriet Tubman - I freed a thousands slaves. I would have freed more had they known they were slaves.

Michael Harriot - She wouldn't have freed any if she was worried about her hair.



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