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Topic: BLACKOGRAPHY - Tom Molineaux
Posted By: pattigurlatl
Subject: BLACKOGRAPHY - Tom Molineaux
Date Posted: Feb 07 2013 at 5:08pm

Tom Molineaux was born a http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/slavery.htm" rel="nofollow - slave in Virginia in 1784. Trained by his father, Zachary Molineaux, he boxed with other slaves in order to entertain http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USASplantation.htm" rel="nofollow - plantation owners . His owner won $100,000 by betting on Molineaux and as a result was granted his freedom and a payment of $500.

Molineaux moved to http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAnewyork.htm" rel="nofollow - New York but after discovering he could make more money fighting in England he decided to get a job as a deckhand on a boat sailing for http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/ITliverpool.htm" rel="nofollow - Liverpool . In his first fight in England took place against Tom Blake on 21st August, 1810. Molineaux won by knocking out Blake in the 8th round.

In December, 1810, Molineaux fought Tom Cribb at Copthorne, near http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/EastGrinstead.htm" rel="nofollow - East Grinstead , for the heavyweight championship of England. After 19 rounds Molineaux had Cribb in trouble on the ropes. Cribb's supporters now entered the ring and during the scrimmage Molineaux had one of his fingers broken. Molineaux continued to fight and in the 28th round appeared to knock out Cribb. However, his seconds complained that Molineaux had been hiding lead bullets in his fists. While this accusation was being disproved, Cribb recovered and was able to continue. Molineaux still remained favourite to win but unluckily he slipped and hit his head on one of the ring posts. He fought on but by the 39th round he was unable to defend himself and Cribb was declared the winner.

Tom Molineaux

The return fight took place at Thistleton Gap in Leicestershire on 28th September, 1811. A record 15,000 people watched the fight. In the sixth round Cribb hit Molineaux with a low blow. He never fully recovered from this punch and in the ninth round Cribb broke his jaw. Two rounds later Cribb knocked out Molineaux.

After making a full recovery Molineaux fought and defeated Jack Carter in 1813. This was followed by a victory over Bill Fuller. However, his boxing career came to an end in 1815 when he lost to George Cooper, a fighter trained by the former black boxer, http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/SLArichmond.htm" rel="nofollow - Bill Richmond .

Tom Molineaux died penniless in http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/ITdublin.htm" rel="nofollow - Dublin , http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/Ireland.htm" rel="nofollow - Ireland , in 1818.



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Harriet Tubman - I freed a thousands slaves. I would have freed more had they known they were slaves.

Michael Harriot - She wouldn't have freed any if she was worried about her hair.



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Posted By: pattigurlatl
Date Posted: Feb 07 2013 at 10:42pm
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Harriet Tubman - I freed a thousands slaves. I would have freed more had they known they were slaves.

Michael Harriot - She wouldn't have freed any if she was worried about her hair.


Posted By: pattigurlatl
Date Posted: Feb 08 2013 at 3:05pm
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Harriet Tubman - I freed a thousands slaves. I would have freed more had they known they were slaves.

Michael Harriot - She wouldn't have freed any if she was worried about her hair.


Posted By: EPITOME
Date Posted: Feb 08 2013 at 4:56pm
like in Django?

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If you are or have ever been a member of BHM, you are inherently a hoodrat.B


Posted By: rickysrose
Date Posted: Feb 08 2013 at 5:01pm
how heart breaking that his "owner" profited so richly and only gave him $500 and he ended up dying penniless in a strange country, thankfully he was free

39 round fight ... how barbaric





Posted By: melikey
Date Posted: Feb 08 2013 at 5:43pm
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His owner won $100,000 by betting on Molineaux and as a result was granted his freedom and a payment of $500.



Cry
it's sad that this was probably considered generous at the time...


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Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Feb 08 2013 at 5:52pm
Originally posted by EPITOME EPITOME wrote:

like in Django?
and some here argued that mandigo fighting never existed

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I just can't stand the negro british midget. He brings out the worst in me.....

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I sometimes think AfroK is gay and either doesn't know it or won't admit to it..


Posted By: rickysrose
Date Posted: Feb 08 2013 at 6:06pm
something else that bothered me about this (beyond the obvious)

I get so incensed when people argue against affirmative action 

freedom is one thing ... equal access to opportunity to a complete other

we still struggle to start on an equal playing field as a people and we need to continue to fight as a people




Posted By: rickysrose
Date Posted: Feb 08 2013 at 6:12pm
by equal playing field I don't mean exceptions

I mean it being the rule

even in slavery times, people overcame exceptional odds through a rare opportunity 

that is no excuse for the majority from having access to the tools to succeed ... whether those tools are psychological, physical (location), educational, economical, organizational/institutional and on and on and on




Posted By: pattigurlatl
Date Posted: Feb 08 2013 at 6:32pm
Originally posted by EPITOME EPITOME wrote:

like in Django?
Yep.  Many of the slave narratives I read mention "n*gger fighting".

I tried to take snapshots from my tablet of some of the paragraphs but looks like I may have to actually transcribe the text and then point to the reference.


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Harriet Tubman - I freed a thousands slaves. I would have freed more had they known they were slaves.

Michael Harriot - She wouldn't have freed any if she was worried about her hair.


Posted By: Naturalchick30
Date Posted: Feb 08 2013 at 6:37pm
Thanks for this pattigurl.  My SO is an amateur boxer.  He will love this.

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Posted By: pattigurlatl
Date Posted: Feb 08 2013 at 7:13pm
Originally posted by Naturalchick30 Naturalchick30 wrote:

Thanks for this pattigurl.  My SO is an amateur boxer.  He will love this.
Nat I'm going to post a separate thread to address this further. I think your SO will really appreciate it.


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Harriet Tubman - I freed a thousands slaves. I would have freed more had they known they were slaves.

Michael Harriot - She wouldn't have freed any if she was worried about her hair.


Posted By: pattigurlatl
Date Posted: Feb 09 2013 at 12:42pm
bumpity bump

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Harriet Tubman - I freed a thousands slaves. I would have freed more had they known they were slaves.

Michael Harriot - She wouldn't have freed any if she was worried about her hair.



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