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Topic: Jeffreys quality gone down?
Posted By: princesshoneybee
Subject: Jeffreys quality gone down?
Date Posted: Jan 16 2013 at 8:26pm
Is it just me or has jeffrey's hair quality become non existent? he used to be the most affordable and reliable vendors for me but my last 3 orders have been 40 percent filler hair and they can't last more than 1 installOuch Anyone else agree?



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Posted By: thebombdotkom
Date Posted: Jan 16 2013 at 10:25pm
I've noticed quite a bit of fillers in one bundle of the hair I just got...I can't speak on the quality as of yet because I haven't installed it yet.

I ordered some yaki from him over the summer and the quality was great. Barely shed or tangled and took color/bleach very well. I got it in August, installed it in September (I believe...) and and had it in til a few weeks ago. I tried to dye it to give to my mom, however, and it tangled/matted up like CRAZY. I had previously bleached it then colored it twice before. HTH!


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Starting Length: Neck
Current Length: Longest layer @ WL
Short Term/2013 Goal: Full Waist Length
Ultimate Goal: Full Hip Length


Posted By: chatnoir
Date Posted: Jan 16 2013 at 11:27pm
Originally posted by beautifulhair123 beautifulhair123 wrote:

Smile


Err, you are?


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Learn as if you were to live forever" - Gandhi


Posted By: thebombdotkom
Date Posted: Jan 16 2013 at 11:37pm
Originally posted by chatnoir chatnoir wrote:

Originally posted by beautifulhair123 beautifulhair123 wrote:

Smile


Err, you are?


LOL


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Starting Length: Neck
Current Length: Longest layer @ WL
Short Term/2013 Goal: Full Waist Length
Ultimate Goal: Full Hip Length


Posted By: MsTiki
Date Posted: Jan 16 2013 at 11:54pm
Originally posted by thebombdotkom thebombdotkom wrote:

Originally posted by chatnoir chatnoir wrote:

Originally posted by beautifulhair123 beautifulhair123 wrote:

Smile


Err, you are?


LOL

LOL Chat, I was wondering the same thing ....


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Peace and Blessings,
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Posted By: Gods Child
Date Posted: Jan 17 2013 at 8:30am
I had to give Jeffery up two years ago. He started sending me crap for hair and simply did not care!


Posted By: Naturalchick30
Date Posted: Jan 17 2013 at 8:32am
Originally posted by MsTiki MsTiki wrote:

Originally posted by thebombdotkom thebombdotkom wrote:

Originally posted by chatnoir chatnoir wrote:

Originally posted by beautifulhair123 beautifulhair123 wrote:

Smile


Err, you are?


LOL

LOL Chat, I was wondering the same thing ....
 
LOL


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Posted By: SuperModelStar
Date Posted: Jan 17 2013 at 10:00am
oh no! i was just about to order some Italian Yaki from him!


Posted By: MelleCouture
Date Posted: Jan 17 2013 at 1:25pm
I ordered some Malaysian Italian yaki from him in december..went to Jamaica and that was it after a week lol..Cryi had to throw the hair away..so i ended up just going with Roman..still waiting for the arrival of romans hair..


Posted By: GA_Diva
Date Posted: Jan 17 2013 at 1:29pm
I agree, that ish I order was fine the 1st install. The next install it was a rats & birds nestDead


Posted By: thebombdotkom
Date Posted: Jan 17 2013 at 9:42pm
I heard his Malay hair was janky so I just ordered from Virgin Chinese...I said cuticles aligned, no fillers, strong wefts, and something else. I hope this hair lasts longer than one install like Natural_Tee's did.

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Starting Length: Neck
Current Length: Longest layer @ WL
Short Term/2013 Goal: Full Waist Length
Ultimate Goal: Full Hip Length


Posted By: fredricafekkai
Date Posted: Jan 18 2013 at 12:25am
oop i just ordered kc. sooooooo i hope his quality aint trash!


Posted By: Ceelopink
Date Posted: Jan 18 2013 at 8:04am
Jeffs hair is trash


Posted By: Jamillah81
Date Posted: Jan 19 2013 at 8:17am
I haven't had any issues yet, except, the last order I placed for some kinky straight was a weird shade of brown. Like chocolate brown. The time before that I got Chinese body wave and it didn't tangle until the 3rd install. Cowboy Magic fixed that.

I just ordered Mongolian light yaki hair from him last night, so we shall see!!

He is getting pricy though so I will be pricing other cv's next go round.


Posted By: afrikan gal
Date Posted: Jan 19 2013 at 9:27am
when was jefferey hair ever good


Posted By: QueenBee
Date Posted: Jan 21 2013 at 11:42am
Originally posted by fredricafekkai fredricafekkai wrote:

oop i just ordered kc. sooooooo i hope his quality aint trash!
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Be careful.  My sister ordered some kc from him recently (Nov/Dec 2012) and it matted something horribly.  I was quite surprised because i purchased from him a few years ago and had no issues.


Posted By: ILOVEBEYONCE
Date Posted: Jan 21 2013 at 2:42pm
Originally posted by fredricafekkai fredricafekkai wrote:

oop i just ordered kc. sooooooo i hope his quality aint trash!


My KC from him lasted over a year. That thing kept going and going and going. After color, bleach, numerous times being straightened ..but that was just my experience. Good luck! Im pulling for you! Smile


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Posted By: SpringShowers
Date Posted: Jan 30 2013 at 11:06am
Hi OP, 

While I can't agree that Jeffrey's quality has gone down because I've only ordered from him once. What I can say is that the hair and the ordering process was crap. 

Before joining BHM a few days ago (lol) I was a long time lurker. I "researched" this board up and down trying to decide which CV to order from. I narrowed it down to to the main 3 CV's, then decided to go with Jeffrey because of his fast shipping. I wanted a custom curl and I even sent him pictures and the curl diameter I wanted. I sent him pictures of me so that he could dye my silk closure appropriately. I sent him a detailed...very detailed order form. This man and I exchanged over 60 emails, and with each email he was patient and reassuring. I felt confident when I placed my order. 

Well a few days later I received my hair. I ordered three bundles of my custom curl and a silk closure. First off the packaging on my "custom" curl was labeled as kinky curly. Red Flag number 1. Then I noticed that my silk closure was a lace closure. Red Flag number 2. I then realized that one of the bundles was a completely different texture then the other. Final. Red. Flag. Not to mention that the hair had a ton of fillers in it. I was too thru. I emailed Jeffrey about the issues and he agreed to send me a new silk closure and another bundle of hair. Which was very nice of him. 

I received my new package in a few days and was highly disappointed when I saw the closure. It was horrible! I mean the color of the closure was lighter than a light brown (I typically order medium brown closures). Nonetheless after $300, 90 emails, and time wasted I am over ordering from CV's. 


Posted By: SpringShowers
Date Posted: Jan 30 2013 at 11:08am
Here's the email I sent him regarding what I wanted. Please tell me if this order form  was not detailed enough: 

Hi Jeffrey,
 
Here is the information for my order. Please read it carefully and confirm that you can deliver this product to me as specified below. I have also attached pictures of myself so that you can match the silk closure to my skin as well as pictures of the curl texture (12mm) that I want. Please confirm and then we can proceed with payment.
 

Premium Machine weft hair

 

Use only premium grade virgin Malaysian hair.

Use only natural black hair, no dyes, no color

No white hair is to be used.

Hair must be able to be colored by my client.

Extra strong premium machine weft – no shedding hair

Hair must not be shorter than the stated length.

Please see below for the specifications:

 

·         Weight: 4 ounces for each bundle

·         Hair texture: Malaysian virgin Remy hair

·         Curl Texture: 12mm (see attached picture)

·         Hair length:  16 inches, 18 inches, and 20 inches

·         Hair color: natural black

·         Hair curl: Steam Process the virgin Remy hair to a 12mm curl (see attached picture)

·         Qty: Three 4 ounce bundles including shipping

·         Total: (including shipping): $300

 

Silk Closure – Very important that the closure does not shed!

 

Multi-layer silk closure that completely hides the knots

Extra strong base from which hair does not shed

Silk color to look like scalp

Silk fabric must be able to be tinted with fabric dyes by my client

Highest quality 100% Malaysian black virgin hair steam processed for texture only

Please do not over process the hair

Hair to be soft and silky and to not tangle

Hair to be able to withstand color processing by professional client

Please see below for the specifications:

 

·         With side burns: No

·         Hair texture: Malaysian virgin Remy hair

·         Curl Texture: 12mm

·         Hair color: natural black

·         Closure Size: 3.5x4

·         Hair curl: Steam Process the virgin Remy hair to a 12mm curl (see attached picture)

·         Density: 90% - 100%

·         Hair length: 16 inches top to bottom same length

·         Quantity: 1 piece

·         Silk Color: Please dye the silk to the clients complexion (see picture)

·         Hair Style: Freestyle

·         Knot: Single Knot and hidden

·         Baby hair: No



Posted By: sugabanana
Date Posted: Jan 30 2013 at 11:30am
SpringShowers now you know doggone well you gave him too much to read. Their English is not even that good when they send emails. You gave him a AV version of an order formLOL.
you gotta speak to them like this:
Silk closure 4x4
hidden knots
top grade hair
single knots throughout
no tangle no shed
DO LIKE PICHUR(picture) I SEND YOU
send me pic before send out or PAYPAL DISPUTE YOU!!!

Sorry this happened to you. waist of time and money when they don't get it right. You should've asked for pictures before shipping out.

Can you post pictures of what he sent?


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Posted By: SpringShowers
Date Posted: Jan 30 2013 at 11:37am
LOL Sugabanana 

Thx for replying! Sometimes less is more LOL

Sorry I don't have any pictures of the hair before I installed it. 


Posted By: Brilaw
Date Posted: Jan 30 2013 at 2:34pm
I think that Roman is the new Jeffrey when it comes to weft, both sell OK hair. 
Expect some filler hair, although I think Jeffrey's hair has much more, expect unaligned cuticles, expect to have to really manipulate the closure for it to look "natural" and of course, expect there to be a language barrier that causes communication to be less than ideal.. However, I do think that Jeffrey closures are CRAP (the one I had barely lasted 1 install) unlike Roman's (it's still going strong)... fyi I ordered from Jeffrey years ago like 09/10 and I ordered from Roman almost 2 months ago.


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Posted By: BeauTfllyBrwn
Date Posted: Jan 30 2013 at 3:06pm
has anyone tried ordering bulk from jeff and wefting elsewhere? 


Posted By: BrownQtee
Date Posted: Jan 31 2013 at 11:34am
Originally posted by sugabanana sugabanana wrote:

SpringShowers now you know doggone well you gave him too much to read. Their English is not even that good when they send emails. You gave him a AV version of an order formLOL.
you gotta speak to them like this:
Silk closure 4x4
hidden knots
top grade hair
single knots throughout
no tangle no shed
DO LIKE PICHUR(picture) I SEND YOU
send me pic before send out or PAYPAL DISPUTE YOU!!!

Sorry this happened to you. waist of time and money when they don't get it right. You should've asked for pictures before shipping out.

Can you post pictures of what he sent?
I just about fell out my chair!! Jaysus!!! LOLLOLCryCry


Posted By: butterfly_2957
Date Posted: Feb 04 2013 at 2:19pm
When was Jeff hair ever good, he has always been hit or miss and more miss than anything!


Posted By: ms.blue
Date Posted: Feb 04 2013 at 2:36pm
Jeffrey can't duplicate patterns that are not on his website plus his quality & prices aren't great anymore.


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Posted By: Alex Urameshi
Date Posted: Feb 08 2013 at 8:15pm
Well looks like I'm crossing Jeffrey off my list of vendors to try.

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Posted By: NeedTresses
Date Posted: Feb 19 2013 at 10:32pm
I was loyal and bought all but a few of my units from Jeff. but when I bought my last 2 units about 2 yrs ago from him his got my measurements screwed to hyell ,, I still havent cut the lace on that Malaysian Kinky curly I bought .. hair is gorgegous but that shortage in the nape is killing me


Posted By: thebombdotkom
Date Posted: Feb 20 2013 at 12:20pm
I still love my IY from Jeffrey. The closure? Not so much. I will try another place and get a silk-based closure next time.


Posted By: Yogirlsr10
Date Posted: Feb 25 2013 at 11:45pm
Had to give Jeffery up in 2 years ago! A hot  mess



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