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Topic: What makes a city, a City?
Posted By: Nelliglam
Subject: What makes a city, a City?
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 3:38pm
On another forum people were saying the only real city in the US is NYC.

So I'm curious, do you agree, and what do you think makes a city a real city, and are there any in the US besides NYC?



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Posted By: JamCaygirl
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 3:41pm

A city is a relatively large and permanent http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_settlement" rel="nofollow - settlement . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City#cite_note-Goodall-1" rel="nofollow - [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City#cite_note-Kuper_and_Kuper-2" rel="nofollow - [2] Although there is no agreement on how a city is distinguished from a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town" rel="nofollow - town within general http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language" rel="nofollow - English language meanings, many cities have a particular http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_administration" rel="nofollow - administrative , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal" rel="nofollow - legal , or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical" rel="nofollow - historical status based on local law.

For example, in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_America" rel="nofollow - American state of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts" rel="nofollow - Massachusetts an article of incorporation approved by the local http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_legislature_%28United_States%29" rel="nofollow - state legislature distinguishes a city government from a town. In the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom" rel="nofollow - United Kingdom and parts of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations" rel="nofollow - Commonwealth of Nations , a city is usually a settlement with a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_charter" rel="nofollow - royal charter . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City#cite_note-Goodall-1" rel="nofollow - [1] Historically, in Europe, a city was understood[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" rel="nofollow - [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" rel="nofollow -



Posted By: Gkisses
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 3:41pm
NYC is overrated..


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Posted By: nycdiva357
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 3:44pm
Originally posted by Gkisses Gkisses wrote:

NYC is overrated..
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hater post.


and no i dont think NYC is the only city in the USA.

we have plenty.


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Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 3:45pm
NYC isn't a city IMO.




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Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 3:46pm
They were saying that to be boastful most likely
NYC is our financial and cultural capital and would have been our political capital if Thomas Jefferson wouldn't have had his way with it.

Most nations have all their capitals in the same city.
We and Brazil I belive are the only ones to not follow that rule

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Posted By: nycdiva357
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 3:47pm
Originally posted by JamCaygirl JamCaygirl wrote:

Cities generally have complex systems for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanitation" rel="nofollow - sanitation , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilities" rel="nofollow - utilities , land usage, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House" rel="nofollow - housing , and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transportation" rel="nofollow - transportation . The concentration of development greatly facilitates interaction between people and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Businesses" rel="nofollow - businesses , benefiting both parties in the process. A big city or metropolis usually has associated http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suburb" rel="nofollow - suburbs and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commuter_town" rel="nofollow - exurbs . Such cities are usually associated with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_area" rel="nofollow - metropolitan areas and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_area" rel="nofollow - urban areas , creating numerous business http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commuter" rel="nofollow - commuters traveling to urban centers for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment" rel="nofollow - employment . Once a city expands far enough to reach another city, this region can be deemed a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conurbation" rel="nofollow - conurbation or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalopolis_%28city_type%29" rel="nofollow - megalopolis .



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Posted By: Nelliglam
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 3:48pm
Originally posted by JamCaygirl JamCaygirl wrote:

A city is a relatively large and permanent http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_settlement" rel="nofollow - settlement . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City#cite_note-Goodall-1" rel="nofollow - [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City#cite_note-Kuper_and_Kuper-2" rel="nofollow - [2] Although there is no agreement on how a city is distinguished from a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town" rel="nofollow - town within general http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language" rel="nofollow - English language meanings, many cities have a particular http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_administration" rel="nofollow - administrative , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal" rel="nofollow - legal , or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical" rel="nofollow - historical status based on local law.

For example, in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_America" rel="nofollow - American state of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts" rel="nofollow - Massachusetts an article of incorporation approved by the local http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_legislature_%28United_States%29" rel="nofollow - state legislature distinguishes a city government from a town. In the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom" rel="nofollow - United Kingdom and parts of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations" rel="nofollow - Commonwealth of Nations , a city is usually a settlement with a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_charter" rel="nofollow - royal charter . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City#cite_note-Goodall-1" rel="nofollow - [1] Historically, in Europe, a city was understood[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" rel="nofollow - [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" rel="nofollow -



Posted By: Nelliglam
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 3:53pm
Originally posted by Positive K Positive K wrote:

First off, what's up Nelliglam nice to see u posting a thread.

Secondly, I think that's BS.

Smile hi

Yea, me posting a thread is a rarity, on here.

From the other forum i gathered they felt places like ATL and LA were more suburban than 'city-like'



Posted By: Lite Brite
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 3:56pm
Good question. I thought there was some sort of specific rule but didnt know what

I also keep meaning to look up street, road, drive, lane, boulevard, and avenue


Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 3:57pm
San Francisco is a real city. 2nd most densely populated following NYC, racial diversity, economically viable, transportation, edu institutions, sports, a Mecca for different lifestyles.

There's a lot of cities like this...NYC is not the end all be all!


Posted By: tatee
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 3:58pm
it seemed like a simple enough conversation yet im baffled or is this crazy talk. i cant tellLOL


Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 3:58pm
Did they fail geography?Geek

But yeah, there are plenty of cities in the US besides NYC.


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Posted By: nycdiva357
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 3:59pm
i consider chicago a city
boston a city.
seattle,
miami

etc


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Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 3:59pm
Originally posted by Lite Brite Lite Brite wrote:

Good question. I thought there was some sort of specific rule but didnt know what

I also keep meaning to look up street, road, drive, lane, boulevard, and avenue

A blvd got the space thingy in the middle. 
Iono about the others. 
I live on an avenue though.


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Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 4:00pm
This makes me think of something else.

If the the US could only save one city from a terrorist attack would they save DC or New York.

Probably NY

But are they speaking over something larger like if you get a chokehold on NYC the whole nation suffocates?

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Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 4:02pm
They'd save DC.

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Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 4:04pm
Idk NY is the financial capital of the world basically.

It's the USA's welcome mat of the world.
When you think USA you think NY

Political capitals can have been moved in the past.
Lots of history there but I don't know .
It's not a cut and dry answer imo

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Posted By: JamCaygirl
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 4:05pm
they would save wherever the prez is...

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Posted By: nycdiva357
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 4:06pm
lol..
DC is numero uno.


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Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 4:08pm
Wherever the most $ and power is for them.

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Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 4:08pm
Idk I'm gonna ask my professors for their opinion.
I really don't think they would save D.C. Or if they would I don't see it being cut and dry.

No way especially if things are not " in session"

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Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 4:09pm
Originally posted by carolina cutie carolina cutie wrote:

Wherever the most $ and power is for them.



And I belive that place is NyC

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Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 4:13pm
They'd save DC.
I know this. 


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Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 4:14pm
I'm reading some things about America's most important cities,
NYC is ranked number one on every list with DC hovering around 3 and 4.



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Posted By: Gkisses
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 4:16pm
Originally posted by nycdiva357 nycdiva357 wrote:

Originally posted by Gkisses Gkisses wrote:

NYC is overrated..
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hater post.


and no i dont think NYC is the only city in the USA.

we have plenty.



Nope just honest. Cool


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Posted By: Lite Brite
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 4:17pm
Preeetttty sure they'd save Houston


Posted By: nycdiva357
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 4:17pm
of course money is in NYC.
but they way the financial system is set up-- even if we are attacked.. we'd take a hit.. but the money would still be there. b/c its backed up etc.

they'd want to save the powerhouse leaders of our country-- b/c they need to save ppl who they think can lead... if we have to start from scratch.

having money saved.. means nothing if you dont ppl to control it-- and its distribution.

if you look at how many safety precautions are taken in case of an "emergency" in dc and compare it to those in NY... dc has way more.

not to say that NY isn't on a list of the most prioritized places to save.. but DC will always be number one.



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Posted By: nycdiva357
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 4:18pm
Originally posted by Lite Brite Lite Brite wrote:

Preeetttty sure they'd save Houston

yes gawd..

where would we be if they didn't have this place to create the next beyonce!

houston wins by default.


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Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 4:19pm
Ppl can be re elected and briefed .
We've been doing it for years .
From the high court to congress those aren't the same ppl lol
We'd be fine .


I know a professor who teaches city planning or something.
I'm gonna ask him he would talk for days about this.
This has suddenly taken my interest

Sorry for hijacking op



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Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 4:20pm
Originally posted by nycdiva357 nycdiva357 wrote:

of course money is in NYC.
but they way the financial system is set up-- even if we are attacked.. we'd take a hit.. but the money would still be there. b/c its backed up etc.

they'd want to save the powerhouse leaders of our country-- b/c they need to save ppl who they think can lead... if we have to start from scratch.

having money saved.. means nothing if you dont ppl to control it-- and its distribution.

if you look at how many safety precautions are taken in case of an "emergency" in dc and compare it to those in NY... dc has way more.

not to say that NY isn't on a list of the most prioritized places to save.. but DC will always be number one.


The first time I rode down Penn Ave and saw those officers with the big ass guns on in the intersections I was like. Confused


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Posted By: Lite Brite
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 4:21pm
LOLHandshake NYC


Posted By: Junior Jr
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 4:29pm
They'd saved city, duh. The rest of you bammas bite the dust. Bye.

jr.

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Posted By: nycdiva357
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 4:29pm
but post emergency... the same options like elections are not avail to us.
so its not about that.

leaders and people at the top of their field have been prioritized in who the heck gets saved in case "its all going down" 

there are list out there.. 
which specifically entail which politicians get saved, doctors, accountants, artist, philosophers etc 

are amongst those who get to start all over again...
b/c they are deemed as whats needed in a post apocalyptic world.


@ sang.. yes.. 
those guards shyt on nycs guards.


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Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 4:33pm
Hmmm ill ask one of the old guys here too he was connected with the CIA .



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Posted By: Junior Jr
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 4:36pm
If somehow DC gets blown to kingdom come, everything's headed to Denver. That's lowkey the 3rd most important city in the states

jr.

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Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 5:04pm
Originally posted by nycdiva357 nycdiva357 wrote:


Originally posted by Lite Brite Lite Brite wrote:

Preeetttty sure they'd save Houston


yes gawd..

where would we be if they didn't have this place to create the next beyonce!

houston wins by default.


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Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 5:07pm
Originally posted by Junior Jr Junior Jr wrote:

If somehow DC gets blown to kingdom come, everything's headed to Denver. That's lowkey the 3rd most important city in the states

jr.

I've been thinking about moving there. 


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Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 5:12pm
If given a choice, I think the American public would save New York City over DC. No one likes DC and the politicians that live there.

Didn't a poll come out saying cockroaches were more popular than congress?LOL


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Posted By: JamCaygirl
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 5:17pm
Given that it would be politicians choosing what city to save................

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Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 5:23pm
When nigguhs ever gave a damn about saving NY?

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Posted By: 305bgirl
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 5:28pm
Miami>>>NY x DC x ATL x whatever else y'all want to name. 


Posted By: Midwest_Da_Gawd
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 5:32pm
Nuuu yawk aint sh*t.

FOH.

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Posted By: Island-Clo
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 7:38pm
Originally posted by Gkisses Gkisses wrote:

NYC is overrated..
NEGATIVE


Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 7:41pm
Do we need a battle of the cities thread?Evil Smile

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Posted By: nycdiva357
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 7:56pm
Originally posted by Midwest_Da_Gawd Midwest_Da_Gawd wrote:

Nuuu yawk aint sh*t.

FOH.

ya mama coulda met a tall strapping man in NY and ur ass wouldn't be 5'2.


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Posted By: nycdiva357
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 7:56pm
Originally posted by 305bgirl 305bgirl wrote:

Miami>>>NY x DC x ATL x whatever else y'all want to name. 

girl bye.. no one is saving fla.

ppl dont even want fla attached to the US 1/2 the time.LOL


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Posted By: Maple Syrup
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 8:13pm
Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:

They were saying that to be boastful most likely
NYC is our financial and cultural capital and would have been our political capital if Thomas Jefferson wouldn't have had his way with it.

Most nations have all their capitals in the same city.
We and Brazil I belive are the only ones to not follow that rule


There quite a few more countries like that. Canada, Switzerland and Germany comes to mind.

OP were you on City Data? Those people are so obnoxious. LOL


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Posted By: EPITOME
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 8:18pm
Originally posted by Maple Syrup Maple Syrup wrote:

Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:

They were saying that to be boastful most likely
NYC is our financial and cultural capital and would have been our political capital if Thomas Jefferson wouldn't have had his way with it.

Most nations have all their capitals in the same city.
We and Brazil I belive are the only ones to not follow that rule


There quite a few more countries like that. Canada, Switzerland and Germany comes to mind.

OP were you on City Data? Those people are so obnoxious. LOL

i was wondering......

anyway it would be DC. what is money? pieces of paper with value assigned to it.


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Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Jan 13 2013 at 8:18pm
Originally posted by Maple Syrup Maple Syrup wrote:


Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:

They were saying that to be boastful most likely
NYC is our financial and cultural capital and would have been our political capital if Thomas Jefferson wouldn't have had his way with it.

Most nations have all their capitals in the same city.
We and Brazil I belive are the only ones to not follow that rule


There quite a few more countries like that. Canada, Switzerland and Germany comes to mind.

OP were you on City Data? Those people are so obnoxious. LOL


I remember distinctly reading we are in the minority when it comes to this.
Maybe I should say federal capital.

Were in the minority when it comes to creating a federal city.


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