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The RED Hair Color Family

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Topic: The RED Hair Color Family
Posted By: RedSoxtober
Subject: The RED Hair Color Family
Date Posted: Dec 19 2012 at 5:00am

Red is the easiest color to acheive but with so many different bands, shades and types of hair dye on the market, it can get confusing. This thread is specifically for those that are looking to get that perfect shade of red without confusion.

Before you buy the supplies you'll need to do two things
 
1. Make sure you hair is in good condition!!! Damaged hair will not color well and it could leave you with uneven, quick fading color and severe damage!!!
 
2. Determine your natural haircolor level and undertone. Look at your hair indoors for the level and outdoors for the undertone in sunlight using the chart below as a reference. For example my hair is a level 2/3 with red undertones.
 
Be sure to write this information down for future reference.
 
 



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Posted By: RedSoxtober
Date Posted: Dec 19 2012 at 5:26am

Q: What if my hair has been previously dyed or bleached?

A:Depending on what your current hair color is and how much new growth you have this could be tricky. If your hair is bleached up to a level 7/8 you'll be able to color over it. Anything higher than that and a filler will be needed to keep you color from turning a weird gross pink/grey/brown shade. I use a rinse ( like adore, jazzing, rage n' react) in a color that has the same undertone as the color I'm going for. Just apply the color for a few minutes (no heat), rinse, air dry.
 
  Hair that has been dyed dark colors or a color that isn't in the red/orange family will need to be removed (ie color remover, bleach bath etc) before the new color is applied. So if your was dyed blue but you want to go pillarbox red, you'll need to fade it out. Putting red dye over blue will turn it a brown....a not so pretty brown.
 
Q: My hair is permed/relaxed/texlaxed can I dye my hair?
 
A:  Yes and no. Of course your hair needs to be healthy but you'll also have to wait at least two weeks before you can color. Read the precautions and warnings on these products before you consider dyeing. Coloring hair that has been texturally altered willl require a lot of extra care. Be sure that you can keep up with a good hair care regimen and prepare to start stretching out your touch-up times so applications don't get overlapped causing major breakage.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: RedSoxtober
Date Posted: Dec 26 2012 at 1:35am
Types of Red Haircolor: Permenant
 
 
Shades in the red/orange family range from Level 2 to Level 7/8 and come in 5 shade bases (get your colorwheels out). Below are the color groups and the levels that each range. Next to the group name are the abreviation(s) that appearl next to the shade name For example: Sunset Red 5RO is a level 5 Red Orange. Some shades may have another number like 560 or 5.60 RO.
 
Red Violet (RV, RBV) - Ranges from Levels 2-5. Easy to use for those that want to add a bit of color but nothing too intense.
 
Red Brown (RB) -These are best for those that want to enhance their natural haircolor, cover grey and range from levels 2-6.
 
Intense Red (IR or RR) - These have the most red pigment in them and are Level 5/6. Some may have an additive usually in creme form to add to the haircolor to make it a bolder red. Some require pre-lightening on darker haircolors. These require a the most upkeep to stay vibrant. I suggest picking up a red rinse to keep the color fresh.
 
Red Orange (RO, O, OR) - The brightest of the bunch and range from level 4-8. Some shades may require pre lightening on dark hair. This color family may be too bright for some people but, do tone down a after a few shampoos. If bright is some you like, I suggest picking up an orange rinse to use on wash days.
 
Neutral Red (NR) - This is more of a brown ranging around level 4-6. Normally used for those who have bleach blonde hair (level 9+) and require a tint back (color correction) to their natural color.
 
Copper/Gold (G, NG, RG)- This is the lightest group ranging from level 5-8 and is also known as strawberry blonde. These require pre-lightening on darker hair colors.


Posted By: darealtipwifey1
Date Posted: Dec 26 2012 at 2:01am
Thank you so much! This was so helpful.

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Posted By: RedSoxtober
Date Posted: Dec 26 2012 at 2:27am
Originally posted by darealtipwifey1 darealtipwifey1 wrote:

Thank you so much! This was so helpful.
 You're welcome! Smile There's still more info to come! 


Posted By: RedSoxtober
Date Posted: Jan 02 2013 at 2:38am

Vegetable Dyes (aka semi-permenant dye, rinse)

With bold haircolor being quite mainstream, there's a number of companies to choose from. I'm going to list the ones I have used in the past.
 
MANIC PANIC http://www.manicpanic.com/" rel="nofollow - http://www.manicpanic.com/ - This stuff has been around since the 70's and is easy to find in most cities. The first time I used was in the mid 90's when it was a gel and they had only a few colors. Now, it's a cream (more like a lotion consistancy to me) and in a bunch of colors some that glow under a blacklight. I'm personally not a fan of this brand due to a few problems. 1. The color fades too quickly 2. The dyes separate and shift in the jars unopened. If you do buy this brand, please check for the color separating or changing. (for example the orange shades turn brown, the dye separates causing white swirls.)
 
SPECIAL EFFECTS- NOt sure what happened to their website. Looks like they've shut down Confused. If you want bright, bright, bright, hair, this brand is (or was) it. It cost a bit more than the others but, well worth it. It's like a creamy lotion consistancy, a little goes a long way and lasts a long while (with good care). Hi-Octane Orange was my favorite in this brand. I used it straight up on level 9 bleached hair and used it to freshen up when I used a level 6 Red Orange hair color (Clairol Torrids in Audacious Red....discontinued).
 
JEROME RUSSELL PUNKY COLOUR http://jeromerussell.com/product/punky-color/" rel="nofollow - http://jeromerussell.com/product/punky-color/ - My personal favorite. This brand used to come in many colors and two formulas; Creme and gelle. It only come in creme nowadays and may be hard to find locally. It's a thick, creamy consistancy (works like a deep conditoner) and is true to color. My favorites (in the red family) were Flame, RED RED, and Fire.
 
DIRECTIONS by La RICHE- http://www.lariche.co.uk/directions-hair-colour" rel="nofollow - http://www.lariche.co.uk/directions-hair-colour - This is a UK brand very similar to Punky Colour from the shade names to the consistancy. Rare to find locally but, lots of places sell this online.
 
ADORE by CREATIVE IMAGE- http://www.creativeimagesystems.com/adore/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=48&Itemid=60" rel="nofollow - http://www.creativeimagesystems.com/adore/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=48&Itemid=60 - This is found at a lot of local BSS. It's a runny gel like consistancy but true to color and cheap. If you have thick hair or medium to long hair (APL+) buy two bottles, apply to dry hair, and use a plastic cap with heat to get better longer lasting results. My favorite reds are Wild Cherry 069 , Raging Red 070 and Intense Red 071.


Posted By: RedSoxtober
Date Posted: Jan 02 2013 at 3:36am
Clairol Jazzing- Same liquid gel consistancy as Adore, found at SALLY's and most local BSS. There used to be a quite a few shades but many have been discontinued over the past few years. Best works with heat. Cherry Cola was a favorite of mine but it's discontinued at SALLY's. Some local BSS will have the the discontinued shades.
 
Fusion Kollection Rage and React - Found mainly at local BSS in a bunch of colors (hard to find unless you're in NYC as far as I know). Similar to Adore but with larger bottles. They do require heat for good saturation. This brand is good for adding to condioners for a color boost or on theri own.
 
KISS Express Hair Color- Found at local BSS and simialr to, Jazzing, Adore, Fusion...it's a liquid gel and has a bit of protein in it ( it may come with a skin protectant packet to prevent staining)  to help to get the color to last a bit longer. The directions may say not to use heat...haven't used this brand in a while so I can't rememebr the specifics. My favorites were Crimson (a shade I used frequently with this product) and Sunset Orange.
 
 
.....trying to remember if there are more....  


Posted By: dOLLish.
Date Posted: Jan 03 2013 at 12:37am
I used to love Clairol Jazzing's rinses. I hated that they discontinued some of the colors and it became harder to find my color (spiced cognac Tongue).
I've been itching to go red without the committment.
 
Thanks for creating this post and sharing this information! Star


Posted By: LittleBirdy
Date Posted: Jan 05 2013 at 8:47am
Should I deep condition the extensions after I bleach and dye? And if I do what should I use to preserve the color?


Posted By: 4ever214ever
Date Posted: Jan 09 2013 at 6:20pm
I'm brown skinned but I want kind of a vibrant red color. Not like crazy Rihanna red but something pretty and vibrant.. I wear back to back sew-ins so mostly it'll be the weave that gets the color but also my horseshoe left out which is about 1B in color. How would I go about this and what colors do you guys suggest??


Posted By: love_angel011
Date Posted: Jan 09 2013 at 7:35pm
Can I dye my extensions jet black after they've been dyed to a burgundy red color or is there some sort of color corrector or color remover that I should use first so the hair doesn't turn a diff color?


Posted By: RedSoxtober
Date Posted: Jan 17 2013 at 6:14pm
Originally posted by love_angel011 love_angel011 wrote:

Can I dye my extensions jet black after they've been dyed to a burgundy red color or is there some sort of color corrector or color remover that I should use first so the hair doesn't turn a diff color?
 
Since you're dyeing the extension hair jet black, there's no need to do any color correction beforehand.  


Posted By: RedSoxtober
Date Posted: Jan 17 2013 at 6:27pm
Originally posted by 4ever214ever 4ever214ever wrote:

I'm brown skinned but I want kind of a vibrant red color. Not like crazy Rihanna red but something pretty and vibrant.. I wear back to back sew-ins so mostly it'll be the weave that gets the color but also my horseshoe left out which is about 1B in color. How would I go about this and what colors do you guys suggest??
 
If you're looking for haircolor inspiration, you can flip trough haircolor magazines, do internet searches, or browse the haircolor swatches at SALLY's or your local BSS.


Posted By: love_angel011
Date Posted: Jan 19 2013 at 11:31pm
has anyone tried the clairol beautiful rinse in amethyst? is more of a deep burgundy red, or a purply red?


Posted By: love_angel011
Date Posted: Jan 19 2013 at 11:31pm
k thanks =)


Posted By: RedSoxtober
Date Posted: Jan 20 2013 at 7:53pm
Originally posted by love_angel011 love_angel011 wrote:

has anyone tried the clairol beautiful rinse in amethyst? is more of a deep burgundy red, or a purply red?
 
I haven't used Clairol Beautiful Collection in Amethyst B40W (Level 3) but I can tell you that the "W" at the end means it is a warm shade. From the looks of the swatch I saw in the store and my knowlegde of this line, it will be a warm rich dark brown red....more on the burgandy side. You should do a strand test to see how it turns out. If not, you can always return the bottle with your receipt. I've done it dozens of times Wink.


Posted By: RedSoxtober
Date Posted: Jan 20 2013 at 8:12pm
Originally posted by dOLLish. dOLLish. wrote:

I used to love Clairol Jazzing's rinses. I hated that they discontinued some of the colors and it became harder to find my color (spiced cognac Tongue).
I've been itching to go red without the committment.
 
Thanks for creating this post and sharing this information! Star
Me too.Cry  Some local BSS do carry the discontunued shades. If there's one in your area, I think Spiced Cognac is one of the shade they still sell. Cherry Cola is my favorite red shade from Jazzing.


Posted By: RedSoxtober
Date Posted: Jan 21 2013 at 12:24am
Here's a list of a few permenant hair dye brands that I have used. Please feel free to add brands you have used and your experiences with them. Smile All can be found at most BSS and SALLY's. Please be careful buying permenant hair dye from the local BSS, for hair dye only has about a 3 year shelf life and we all know some products will SIT on shelves for a good 10+ years collecting a dust.                                             
 
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Clairol Professional  http://www.clairolpro.com/collections/gray-hair-color" rel="nofollow - http://www.clairolpro.com/collections/gray-hair-color . My favorite collections are Miss Clairol (now Soy 4 Complex), Torrids (sadly discontinuedCry) and Radiance Colorgloss (ah crap they discontinued the red shade!) The shades are true, the liqud hairdye mixture turn to an easy to apply gel when mixed with liquid developer. I havent used their creme colors.Can be applied by tint bottle or tint brush.
 
Ion Color Brilliance http://www.ionprofessional.com//" rel="nofollow - http://www.ionprofessional.com//  This is only sold at SALLY's and has specials often. Use with the Ion developers (which smells decent) and is great if you have a sensitive scalp. Their shades are easy to read and there's a little pamphlet at the display to help you figure out which level of developer and hair dye to use to achieve your haircolor. I've used the liquid and creme hair colors with great results.
 
Wella Color Charm http://wella.com/en-EN/home.aspx" rel="nofollow - http://wella.com/en-EN/home.aspx  Found in most BSS and SALLY'S also frequent specials. To be honest I haven't used this brand of hair dye since 1997 maybe 98 but, it really is a great line and I plan on using Wella again sometime in the near future. The old color codes were a little confusing for me to read back then which was my only reason for not sticking with this brand through the years. Actually after having a bit of a disaster with Manic Panic (back when it was just a gel) I used to Wella to go honey blonde ( can't remember the code) and it was gorgeous, and looked like it was my natural haircolor. 
 
 
L'Oreal Technique Excellence Hi-Color http://www.lorealtechnique.com/hicolor_01.shtml" rel="nofollow - http://www.lorealtechnique.com/hicolor_01.shtml  Found at the BSS and SALLY's. I've only had good experiences using the red shades by Hi-Color. This stuff says it's meant for dark hair but it's really isn't all that special....the thing that makes it work for dark hair is 30 VOLUME DEVELOPER...of course if your hair is relaxed the directions call for 20 volume.
 
L'Oreal Professional Feria http://www.lorealtechnique.com/feria.shtml" rel="nofollow - http://www.lorealtechnique.com/feria.shtml  The first time I used Feria was when it first came out as a box dye sold only at drugstores. A few years later they started selling it at SALLY's a few other pro BSS. The colors are bold but can fade quickly. The post color deep conditioner they have is awesome.
 
There's a few more that are box dyes from Revlon, Clairol, L'Oreal that  have used. Once I can remember the specific lines form each brand, I'll post'em Wink.
 


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Posted By: love_angel011
Date Posted: Jan 21 2013 at 8:52pm
Originally posted by RedSoxtober RedSoxtober wrote:

Originally posted by love_angel011 love_angel011 wrote:

has anyone tried the clairol beautiful rinse in amethyst? is more of a deep burgundy red, or a purply red?
 
I haven't used Clairol Beautiful Collection in Amethyst B40W (Level 3) but I can tell you that the "W" at the end means it is a warm shade. From the looks of the swatch I saw in the store and my knowlegde of this line, it will be a warm rich dark brown red....more on the burgandy side. You should do a strand test to see how it turns out. If not, you can always return the bottle with your receipt. I've done it dozens of times Wink.

sounds like what im going for, thanks again =)


Posted By: dOLLish.
Date Posted: Jan 24 2013 at 3:38am
Do you think Jazzing rinses will take the natural, 1B hair?
 
I purchased a Black Cherry rinse (I thought it was Cherry Cola, but whatevs) and now I'm being told that it basically won't do anything to my hair. I still have some highlights (dyed) and my hair has natural highlights. I just want to make sure that I'll see something. LOL
 
TIA.


Posted By: RedSoxtober
Date Posted: Jan 24 2013 at 10:06am
Originally posted by dOLLish. dOLLish. wrote:

Do you think Jazzing rinses will take the natural, 1B hair?
 
I purchased a Black Cherry rinse (I thought it was Cherry Cola, but whatevs) and now I'm being told that it basically won't do anything to my hair. I still have some highlights (dyed) and my hair has natural highlights. I just want to make sure that I'll see something. LOL
 
TIA.
 
 
You'll see the the color more on the highlighted areas. As for the areas that aren't highlighted, the color will show in sunlight and bright lighting.


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Posted By: RedSoxtober
Date Posted: Jan 25 2013 at 2:08am

Two things I forgot to warn everyone about red hair color. 1; You might want to avoid wearing white and light colors for a while since reds ALWAYS bleed like crazy until they fade out. 2; Red is diffiuclt to completely fade out. If you're looking to go blonde from red, getting those orange, gold, pink undertones out can take some effort.



Posted By: RedSoxtober
Date Posted: Mar 08 2013 at 4:53pm
Originally posted by RedSoxtober RedSoxtober wrote:

Vegetable Dyes (aka semi-permenant dye, rinse)

With bold haircolor being quite mainstream, there's a number of companies to choose from. I'm going to list the ones I have used in the past.
 
MANIC PANIC http://www.manicpanic.com/" rel="nofollow - http://www.manicpanic.com/ - This stuff has been around since the 70's and is easy to find in most cities. The first time I used was in the mid 90's when it was a gel and they had only a few colors. Now, it's a cream (more like a lotion consistancy to me) and in a bunch of colors some that glow under a blacklight. I'm personally not a fan of this brand due to a few problems. 1. The color fades too quickly 2. The dyes separate and shift in the jars unopened. If you do buy this brand, please check for the color separating or changing. (for example the orange shades turn brown, the dye separates causing white swirls.)
 
SPECIAL EFFECTS- NOt sure what happened to their website. Looks like they've shut down Confused. If you want bright, bright, bright, hair, this brand is (or was) it. It cost a bit more than the others but, well worth it. It's like a creamy lotion consistancy, a little goes a long way and lasts a long while (with good care). Hi-Octane Orange was my favorite in this brand. I used it straight up on level 9 bleached hair and used it to freshen up when I used a level 6 Red Orange hair color (Clairol Torrids in Audacious Red....discontinued).
 
JEROME RUSSELL PUNKY COLOUR http://jeromerussell.com/product/punky-color/" rel="nofollow - http://jeromerussell.com/product/punky-color/ - My personal favorite. This brand used to come in many colors and two formulas; Creme and gelle. It only come in creme nowadays and may be hard to find locally. It's a thick, creamy consistancy (works like a deep conditoner) and is true to color. My favorites (in the red family) were Flame, RED RED, and Fire.
 
DIRECTIONS by La RICHE- http://www.lariche.co.uk/directions-hair-colour" rel="nofollow - http://www.lariche.co.uk/directions-hair-colour - This is a UK brand very similar to Punky Colour from the shade names to the consistancy. Rare to find locally but, lots of places sell this online.
 
ADORE by CREATIVE IMAGE- http://www.creativeimagesystems.com/adore/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=48&Itemid=60" rel="nofollow - http://www.creativeimagesystems.com/adore/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=48&Itemid=60 - This is found at a lot of local BSS. It's a runny gel like consistancy but true to color and cheap. If you have thick hair or medium to long hair (APL+) buy two bottles, apply to dry hair, and use a plastic cap with heat to get better longer lasting results. My favorite reds are Wild Cherry 069 , Raging Red 070 and Intense Red 071.
 
The Special Effects website is back up! http://www.specialeffectsusa.com/hair_dye.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.specialeffectsusa.com/hair_dye.html
 


Posted By: KikiScorpio92
Date Posted: Mar 09 2013 at 5:25am
Hey RedSoxtober Do you think it would be okay to apply semi permanent red over permanent red to keep it vibrant till next touch-up. I'm not sure if you answered this in another thread so sorry in advance if you have.
Eta: Never mind I read through again and found my answer thanks for all the info love.


Posted By: RedSoxtober
Date Posted: Mar 10 2013 at 3:48am
Originally posted by KikiScorpio92 KikiScorpio92 wrote:

Hey RedSoxtober Do you think it would be okay to apply semi permanent red over permanent red to keep it vibrant till next touch-up. I'm not sure if you answered this in another thread so sorry in advance if you have.
Eta: Never mind I read through again and found my answer thanks for all the info love.
Just in case anyone else here is wondering, yes. Smile Red shades lose their vibrance the fastest and applying a semi perm red will give your color life again. It can be apllied straight on ( a tint brush is best) or mixed in with a deep condtiioner. Just be careful not to apply to the roots because it may alter the results of touch-ups.


Posted By: simranbhalla
Date Posted: Mar 12 2013 at 3:54am
Red color hair looks gives gorgeous look.My mother & my elder sister using red color hair mostly.Now a days me also using red color.Now i am looking very good. Trust me once try red color then you will got some positive looks.

Wink



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