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Topic: Why Blacks are dumb for co-signing gun control
Posted By: Midwest_Da_Gawd
Subject: Why Blacks are dumb for co-signing gun control
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 4:22pm
I'm happy to hear another like-minded brother spitting that hot fiyah about this subject.

Keep on following yall liberal, Democrat slavemasters to the slaughterhouse if yall want....



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Why black Americans should continue to bear arms

Opinion

by Joseph Haynes Davis | http://thegrio.com/2012/12/07/why-black-americans-should-continue-to-bear-arms/" rel="nofollow -
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The legal/legislative issue of gun control continues to be a hotly debated topic for black Americans and will always be an important issue for all of America.

The subject matter is constantly in the media, with each report lending its own social and political spin. Most opinions produced or written in the African-American press argue for increased gun control.

The common jurisdictional component in all cases is the state of Florida. Those cases include the State of Florida v. George Zimmerman, also known as the Trayvon Martin case, http://thegrio.com/2012/05/11/marissa-alexander-sentenced-to-20-years-in-prison/" rel="nofollow - State of Florida v. Marissa Alexander , with the most recent one being the State of Florida v. Michael David Dunn, in which the victim is Jordan Russell Davis.

Also at issue is Florida Statute 776.013 commonly referred to as the http://thegrio.com/2012/10/15/trayvon-martins-parents-launch-political-committee-amed-at-stand-your-ground-laws/" rel="nofollow - “Stand Your Ground” law. The statute is a defense strategy and option afforded to defendants in certain criminal proceedings when the accused defendants are charged criminally when using firearms that they otherwise allegedly are legally permitted to carry and possess.

Let me state at the outset that the families of the deceased victims in these cases, Trayvon Martin and http://thegrio.com/2012/12/03/jordan-davis-case-fatal-shooting-over-music-compared-to-trayvon-martin/" rel="nofollow - Jordan Russell Davis , have my condolences. Reading news reports of how these young black, American males lost their life makes me angry. I am a black American, a male, and a resident of the State of Florida, living in Orlando.

I supported Barack Obama’s run for president in 2008 and 2012 and was part of the Obama legal team for poll watching on Election Day in 2008 and for early voting in 2012, trying to insure no voting irregularities occurred on my watch.

And, while performing my sworn duties as a poll watcher, I had legally and properly concealed a Ruger SP 101 .357 Magnum with 5 rounds of hollow points in my Honda Element along with a Beretta Cheetah .380 semi-automatic with 13 rounds of hollow points for protection, just in case I needed to defend myself from any criminal tyranny, bigoted or otherwise.

I make no apologies for my zeal and advocacy for a strong 2nd Amendment. I’m equally as zealous concerning 9th Amendment privacy issues, freedoms for women giving them the right to control their bodies, contraception, and which affords same-sex couples privacy rights along with the equal protections contained in the 14th Amendment.

I know I can be presumed a threat or suspicious person because of my skin color and gender. After all, I am a black-American male, well educated earning my B.S. at Illinois State University, an M.S.W. from the University of Pennsylvania and also attended Rutgers Law School-Camden. I understand the history of bigotry in America, but refuse to let it hold me back in any way, and I run own my own businesses.

Yet, I am still considered a target. In fact, no matter how old you become, being a black American male, walking outside in the environment, is always rife with inherent risks.

However, it is because of the aforementioned that I am also a strong 2nd Amendment advocate. I am the type of man who, because of the history of bigotry in America, and its racist roots of gun control, refuse to ever abdicate any right to the state, for any reason whatsoever, including my right to keep and bear arms for self-defense.


I have in the past and shall continue to argue for no changes, no abolition or erosion of Florida Statute 776.013, or “Stand Your Ground”. Again, I am a black American. I am male.

Unfortunately the issue of the express constitutional right of the 2nd Amendment is confused by the lack of knowledge and history and the ability, rather the inability, fear and ignorance of some black Americans to realize that right to keep, bear and effectuate that right via the statutes of several states.

Because of its historically racist basis, the right to bear arms has been either historically usurped by bigoted state-sanctioned controls or has been intellectually, morally and emotionally usurped by the so-called teachings and suspect leadership of purported self-appointed leaders. This is true, whether the leaders be self-appointed or allegedly anointed, because of their so-called religious positions or piety, or have been compromised politically, though elected by the people.

Consequently, why would I or anyone, give back a right that black Americans have died for access to or have been lynched as a result of the inability to embrace and effectuate that right?

Do you think that any of the lynched martyrs of the black American experience would be deceased if they had brandished a Beretta M9, semi-automatic, hand gun with two magazines filled with 15 rounds of 9 millimeter, hollow point ammunition to defend themselves from lynch mob bigots?

I have often asked African-Americans what other express constitutional right they would like to see either abolished or repealed? I would have been taken aback had anyone answered the erosion or abolition of the 13th Amendment, which outlaws slavery and involuntary servitude.

In conclusion, the following passage taken from a law review article written by my criminal law professor Robert J. Cottrol formerly of Rutgers Law School-Camden further states my position.

The history of blacks, firearms regulations, and the right to bear arms should cause us to ask new questions regarding the Second Amendment. These questions will pose problems both for advocates of stricter gun controls and for those who argue against them. Much of the contemporary crime that concerns Americans is in poor black neighborhoods and a case can be made that greater firearms restrictions might alleviate this tragedy. But another, perhaps stronger case can be made that a society with a dismal record of protecting a people has a dubious claim on the right to disarm them. Perhaps a re-examination of this history can lead us to a modern realization of what the framers of the Second Amendment understood: that it is unwise to place the means of protection totally in the hands of the state, and that self-defense is also a civil right. [Georgetown Law Journal, Robert J. Cottrol & Raymond T. Diamond. Originally published as 80 GEO. L.J. 1991, 309-361 (1991).]

A licensed attorney in Orlando, Florida, Joseph Haynes Davis was legal counsel to Obama for America in 2008 and 2012 for election poll monitoring in the Orlando metropolitan area. Joseph Haynes Davis, the younger brother of the late trumpeter Miles Davis, and is also a broadcaster with over 30 years of broadcast media experience as an air personality, program director, political talk show host, and operations manager at radio stations in a number of markets throughout the United States.





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I'm fed up! *flips table*



Replies:
Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 4:27pm
I was confused then I remembered that we do indeed have gun control fangirls on BHM.

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Posted By: Naturalchick30
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 4:32pm
Well Im glad somebody knows the real deal with this gun control mess...


Posted By: Midwest_Da_Gawd
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 4:32pm
To summarize the article:

Considering all the f*cked up sh*t that's been done to us throughout American history, it's ridiculous for Negroes to be co-signing our own disarmament.

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I'm fed up! *flips table*


Posted By: Jewelsnyc
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 4:32pm
I am all for the right to bare arms. Proper understanding & respect for the law as well as the firearm would elevate most people's fear.



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You gon get this work Nicca


Posted By: EPITOME
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 4:34pm
but...wouldn't everyone be disarmed with gun control laws? so the fight would be even no?

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Posted By: Midwest_Da_Gawd
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 4:38pm
Originally posted by EPITOME EPITOME wrote:

but...wouldn't everyone be disarmed with gun control laws? so the fight would be even no?

The criminals/thugs will ALWAYS have guns.

Gun control laws only prevent law-abiding citizens from strapping up.....you know, because law-abiding citizens are the only people who abide by laws in the first place.


Sidenote: I accidentally thanked your post when I tried to quote it. Sleepy


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I'm fed up! *flips table*


Posted By: EPITOME
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 4:40pm
Originally posted by Midwest_Da_Gawd Midwest_Da_Gawd wrote:

Originally posted by EPITOME EPITOME wrote:

but...wouldn't everyone be disarmed with gun control laws? so the fight would be even no?

The criminals/thugs will ALWAYS have guns.

Gun control laws only prevent law-abiding citizens from strapping up.....you know, because law-abiding citizens are the only people who abide by laws in the first place.


Sidenote: I accidentally thanked your post when I tried to quote it. Sleepy

it wasn't an accident. stop lying.


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I'm from The Wishanicca Woods boo-Dreamz

If you are or have ever been a member of BHM, you are inherently a hoodrat.B


Posted By: Jewelsnyc
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 4:40pm
Originally posted by EPITOME EPITOME wrote:

but...wouldn't everyone be disarmed with gun control laws? so the fight would be even no?
it is your right as a citizen to defend your person, loved one & property. It goes far deeper than a fair one. Especially as a woman, it is damn near impossible to neutralize a perp with your bare hands, but put a glock in it...see if that works.

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You gon get this work Nicca


Posted By: JamCaygirl
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 4:40pm
yes, we need more stories like this...

Boy, seven, pieces together his parents' dismantled gun and shoots his eight-year-old sister

  • Youngster opened lock box where gun was stored at grandparents' house
  • Boy was playing with the gun in bedroom when he inadvertently fired shot

This seven-year-old boy, pictured being escorted to the police station accidentally shot his eight-year-old sister in the arm after he managed to open a lock box and put together a dismantled gun

This youngster accidentally shot his sister in the arm after playing with a gun kept in a lock box

A seven-year-old boy accidentally shot his eight-year-old sister in the arm after he managed to open a lock box and put together a dismantled gun.

Police say the youngster inadvertently fired at his sister while playing with the weapon at home in the West Oak Lane area of Philadelphia at around 10.40am on Thursday.

The gun was stored in a lock box at the home of the children's grandparents, but the boy managed to get hold of the keys, open it up and put it together.

The two children were in the little girl's bedroom on the first floor of the property when the boy began playing with the gun, triggering it to fire a shot into the girl's arm.

On hearing the shot the girl's grandparents came to her assistance, put the gun away and took her to the hospital emergency ward at Einstein Medical Centre with non-life-threatening injuries.

She has since been transferred to Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, but medical staff say she remains in a stable condition.

The boy, who cannot been identified, was later seen being led into the police station.

According to http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=8910820" rel="nofollow - Lt. George McClay of the Philadelphia Police said: 'The kid is very shook up. He's not happy with what he did and he knows he did something wrong.'

 

More...

  • http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2244249/Pictured-Real-life-AIDs-victim-Ron-Woodroof-tragic-life-played-Matthew-McConaughey-movie-The-Dallas-Club.html" rel="nofollow - Revealed: The real-life AIDs victim played by Matthew McConaughey in harrowing new movie - and how his family are unable to look at actor's 'breathtaking' resemblance
  • http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2244344/Yelp-review-lawsuit-Jane-Perez-ordered-change-negative-comments-business.html" rel="nofollow - Judge orders woman to CHANGE negative Yelp review after contractor sues her for $750,000

Friends and neighbors say this is a tight-knit family and their thoughts are with them at this time.

'They're a wonderful family. Really, they're just a close-knit family and I know this was an accident," said family friend Beverly Jackson.

The shocking incident happened in the top bedroom of this house on Georgian Road in Philadelphia where the youngsters live with their grandparents

The shocking incident happened in the top bedroom of this house on Georgian Road in Philadelphia where the youngsters live with their grandparents

While precautions were taken, police say there are better ways to secure your weapons from curious children.

'You have digital safes, things like that. You make sure kids don't know the combination. That's the best way to do it.'

The gun was registered, police say, and while the investigation continues it does not appear any charges will be filed.






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Out of many, one people.....
Happy 50th JAMAICA!


Posted By: Midwest_Da_Gawd
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 4:41pm
I only tell the truth. Ying Yang

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I'm fed up! *flips table*


Posted By: Midwest_Da_Gawd
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 4:43pm
Originally posted by JamCaygirl JamCaygirl wrote:

yes, we need more stories like this...

Boy, seven, pieces together his parents' dismantled gun and shoots his eight-year-old sister

  • Youngster opened lock box where gun was stored at grandparents' house
  • Boy was playing with the gun in bedroom when he inadvertently fired shot

This seven-year-old boy, pictured being escorted to the police station accidentally shot his eight-year-old sister in the arm after he managed to open a lock box and put together a dismantled gun

This youngster accidentally shot his sister in the arm after playing with a gun kept in a lock box

A seven-year-old boy accidentally shot his eight-year-old sister in the arm after he managed to open a lock box and put together a dismantled gun.

Police say the youngster inadvertently fired at his sister while playing with the weapon at home in the West Oak Lane area of Philadelphia at around 10.40am on Thursday.

The gun was stored in a lock box at the home of the children's grandparents, but the boy managed to get hold of the keys, open it up and put it together.

The two children were in the little girl's bedroom on the first floor of the property when the boy began playing with the gun, triggering it to fire a shot into the girl's arm.

On hearing the shot the girl's grandparents came to her assistance, put the gun away and took her to the hospital emergency ward at Einstein Medical Centre with non-life-threatening injuries.

She has since been transferred to Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, but medical staff say she remains in a stable condition.

The boy, who cannot been identified, was later seen being led into the police station.

According to http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=8910820" rel="nofollow - Lt. George McClay of the Philadelphia Police said: 'The kid is very shook up. He's not happy with what he did and he knows he did something wrong.'

 

More...

  • http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2244249/Pictured-Real-life-AIDs-victim-Ron-Woodroof-tragic-life-played-Matthew-McConaughey-movie-The-Dallas-Club.html" rel="nofollow - Revealed: The real-life AIDs victim played by Matthew McConaughey in harrowing new movie - and how his family are unable to look at actor's 'breathtaking' resemblance
  • http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2244344/Yelp-review-lawsuit-Jane-Perez-ordered-change-negative-comments-business.html" rel="nofollow - Judge orders woman to CHANGE negative Yelp review after contractor sues her for $750,000

Friends and neighbors say this is a tight-knit family and their thoughts are with them at this time.

'They're a wonderful family. Really, they're just a close-knit family and I know this was an accident," said family friend Beverly Jackson.

The shocking incident happened in the top bedroom of this house on Georgian Road in Philadelphia where the youngsters live with their grandparents

The shocking incident happened in the top bedroom of this house on Georgian Road in Philadelphia where the youngsters live with their grandparents

While precautions were taken, police say there are better ways to secure your weapons from curious children.

'You have digital safes, things like that. You make sure kids don't know the combination. That's the best way to do it.'

The gun was registered, police say, and while the investigation continues it does not appear any charges will be filed.









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I'm fed up! *flips table*


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 4:46pm
Lol. That article isn't a gun control issue.
That's a parent fail.


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Posted By: Naturalchick30
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 4:47pm
Pretty much


Posted By: Lady ICE
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 4:48pm
Originally posted by Naturalchick30 Naturalchick30 wrote:

Well Im glad somebody knows the real deal with this gun control mess...
Thumbs Up 

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Posted By: tatee
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 4:48pm
http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/the-esoteric-agenda_topic332077_post9180535.html#9180535" rel="nofollow - The right to keep and bear arms


Posted By: Jewelsnyc
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 4:49pm
You just posted a very valid point of just how important it is that everyone within your family should have respect & understanding of a firearm. I can post as many stories of small children handling firearms in a safe manor because the were taught.

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You gon get this work Nicca


Posted By: Jewelsnyc
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 4:50pm
You know when you realize just how important your rights are? When there taken away.

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You gon get this work Nicca


Posted By: ShadyLady
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 4:53pm
This article is dead on. I'm looking into steps now to be able to legally have a gun for my own protection. As long as no one violates my home or personal space with the intent to do harm, they'll be alright.

I agree with Sang on the second issue. I really don't see why your child should even know you own a gun, let alone know where it is AND be able to get to it.

Part of responsibly owning a gun is preventing things like that.



Posted By: Midwest_Da_Gawd
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 4:53pm
Originally posted by Jewelsnyc Jewelsnyc wrote:

You know when you realize just how important your rights are? When there taken away.

Oooooo weeeee


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I'm fed up! *flips table*


Posted By: Lady ICE
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 4:54pm
Originally posted by Jewelsnyc Jewelsnyc wrote:

You know when you realize just how important your rights are? When there taken away.
Heart

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Posted By: tatee
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 4:58pm
thats an interesting teaching style i notice on hereLOL educate the masses by calling the dumb. Ermm usually works out well.


Posted By: Ladybird0724
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 5:03pm
Originally posted by ShadyLady ShadyLady wrote:

This article is dead on. I'm looking into steps now to be able to legally have a gun for my own protection. As long as no one violates my home or personal space with the intent to do harm, they'll be alright.

I agree with Sang on the second issue. I really don't see why your child should even know you own a gun, let alone know where it is AND be able to get to it.

Part of responsibly owning a gun is preventing things like that.



I don't think that it's wrong for your child to know that you have a gun when they are a certain age...my husband hunts and so our kids are probably going to know that there's a gun and its somewhere on our property, and that it is used for those purposes. they will probably hunt when they are older and learn how to use it. the key is talking to your child about being safe with a gun, and only doing so when they are a lot older.  that's my opinion, though



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It is said it takes seven years
to grow completely new skin cells.
To think, this year I will grow
into a body you never will
have touched.
— Brett Elizabeth Jenkins


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 5:05pm
I think people should talk about death more with their children. 
My kids will probably we out of control because I'm not sugarcoating or telling fairy tales.
They will get the real of the real from me. 


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Posted By: FarraFace
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 5:08pm
There is no way to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. If all sound minded adults were required to carry guns, the crime rate would fall far and fast.

They call em peacemakers for a reason.

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Posted By: ShadyLady
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 5:09pm
Originally posted by Ladybird0724 Ladybird0724 wrote:


Originally posted by ShadyLady ShadyLady wrote:

This article is dead on. I'm looking into steps now to be able to legally have a gun for my own protection. As long as no one violates my home or personal space with the intent to do harm, they'll be alright.

I agree with Sang on the second issue. I really don't see why your child should even know you own a gun, let alone know where it is AND be able to get to it.

Part of responsibly owning a gun is preventing things like that.



I don't think that it's wrong for your child to know that you have a gun when they are a certain age...my husband hunts and so our kids are probably going to know that there's a gun and its somewhere on our property, and that it is used for those purposes. they will probably hunt when they are older and learn how to use it. the key is talking to your child about being safe with a gun, and only doing so when they are a lot older.  that's my opinion, though



Different strokes for different folks.

We're kinda on the same page tho. The article JamCayGirl put up was about a 7 year old. That's too young in my opinion.

I personally wouldn't feel comfortable introducing a child to a gun until they were at least a teenager and I was sure they could handle all the ramifications that come with using a gun properly.

And hunting...uh no. I'm a city girl lol.


Posted By: Jewelsnyc
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 5:12pm
Originally posted by FarraFace FarraFace wrote:

There is no way to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. If all sound minded adults were required to carry guns, the crime rate would fall far and fast.

They call em peacemakers for a reason
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You gon get this work Nicca


Posted By: Ladybird0724
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 5:13pm
Originally posted by ShadyLady ShadyLady wrote:

Originally posted by Ladybird0724 Ladybird0724 wrote:


Originally posted by ShadyLady ShadyLady wrote:

This article is dead on. I'm looking into steps now to be able to legally have a gun for my own protection. As long as no one violates my home or personal space with the intent to do harm, they'll be alright.

I agree with Sang on the second issue. I really don't see why your child should even know you own a gun, let alone know where it is AND be able to get to it.

Part of responsibly owning a gun is preventing things like that.



I don't think that it's wrong for your child to know that you have a gun when they are a certain age...my husband hunts and so our kids are probably going to know that there's a gun and its somewhere on our property, and that it is used for those purposes. they will probably hunt when they are older and learn how to use it. the key is talking to your child about being safe with a gun, and only doing so when they are a lot older.  that's my opinion, though



Different strokes for different folks.

We're kinda on the same page tho. The article JamCayGirl put up was about a 7 year old. That's too young in my opinion.

I personally wouldn't feel comfortable introducing a child to a gun until they were at least a teenager and I was sure they could handle all the ramifications that come with using a gun properly.

And hunting...uh no. I'm a city girl lol.


I also agree that 7yrs old is way too young

i don't hunt either...it's always cold and I don't like the messiness. I do like to shoot though Big smile


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It is said it takes seven years
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To think, this year I will grow
into a body you never will
have touched.
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Posted By: Jewelsnyc
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 5:18pm
THIS IS WHAT THE "OTHERS" ARE TEACHING THEIR CHILDREN!!



WAKE UP PEOPLE!!

It's real in the field. The war has begun, it's just many of us aren't aware.


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You gon get this work Nicca


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 5:23pm
Thugs need formal training.

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Posted By: FarraFace
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 5:30pm
Every deer season, there is half a newspaper page dedicated to children 5+ bagging their 1st kill. 

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Posted By: nycdiva357
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 5:34pm
lmao.

my older child will know how to use a gun.
the way i was raised.

i cried when i loaded a magazine the first time.
my fingers hurt like hayle! lol


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Posted By: bunzaveli
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 5:36pm
Originally posted by Midwest_Da_Gawd Midwest_Da_Gawd wrote:



Keep on following yall liberal, Democrat slavemasters to the slaughterhouse if yall want....




lmao, bro you went full coon.


Posted By: Az~Maverick
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 5:38pm
Because of the desensitization of this society when it comes to people becoming victims to crimes, sometimes in open public and you have a bunch of folks just standing there watching on the sidelines, the LAST thing we need is gun control. Especially for women. On average, it takes police 6 minutes...if at all to arrive. Just sayin.


Posted By: Midwest_Da_Gawd
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 5:39pm
Originally posted by bunzaveli bunzaveli wrote:

Originally posted by Midwest_Da_Gawd Midwest_Da_Gawd wrote:



Keep on following yall liberal, Democrat slavemasters to the slaughterhouse if yall want....




lmao, bro you went full coon.

Shut the f*ck up.


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Posted By: EPITOME
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 6:56pm
Originally posted by FarraFace FarraFace wrote:

There is no way to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. If all sound minded adults were required to carry guns, the crime rate would fall far and fast.

They call em peacemakers for a reason.

I think that is an over-simplification.  There might simply be more deaths.  It'd be a better study to compare crime rates in countries w/o and w/gun control laws controlling for economic factors


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Posted By: OrriannaRose
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 7:57pm
Originally posted by Jewelsnyc Jewelsnyc wrote:

You know when you realize just how important your rights are? When there taken away.
 
ClapClap
 
Sn: I always found it funny that some people associate Democrats with the issue of gun control. I don't know of one Democrat that would advocate for gun control.


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Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 8:30pm
I hunt with my granny.
That lady be serious.
She sent me back to the camp to wait for her one time because I was making too much noise lol

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Posted By: FarraFace
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 9:00pm
Originally posted by EPITOME EPITOME wrote:

I think that is an over-simplification.  There might simply be more deaths.  It'd be a better study to compare crime rates in countries w/o and w/gun control laws controlling for economic factors

Really? Criminals count on 2 things, the element of surprise (the only person who knows when an armed robbery is going to happen is the robber) and the intimidation factor that comes with being armed (knowing most people don't carry guns).

The element of surprise can't be taken away. The safety of an unarmed victim can. If everybody got a gun, all they have is the element of surprise. That's not enough for most criminals. That's why they asses flee as soon as someone unexpectedly returns fire. LOL


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Posted By: OrriannaRose
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 9:18pm
Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:

I hunt with my granny.
That lady be serious.
She sent me back to the camp to wait for her one time because I was making too much noise lol
 
LOLLOL


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Posted By: Midwest_Da_Gawd
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 9:31pm
Originally posted by OrriannaRose OrriannaRose wrote:

I always found it funny that some people associate Democrats with the issue of gun control. I don't know of one Democrat that would advocate for gun control.





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Posted By: PeacefulOne
Date Posted: Dec 07 2012 at 10:38pm
Originally posted by Az~Maverick Az~Maverick wrote:

Because of the desensitization of this society when it comes to people becoming victims to crimes, sometimes in open public and you have a bunch of folks just standing there watching on the sidelines, the LAST thing we need is gun control. Especially for women. On average, it takes police 6 minutes...if at all to arrive. Just sayin.
 
ClapClapClap
When seconds count, police are just minutes away! 
For real!  I will be my own pd if need be.
Don't give up your rights people.  Too many died for you to get them!


Posted By: EPITOME
Date Posted: Dec 14 2012 at 8:21pm
hmmm

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Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Dec 14 2012 at 8:30pm
CT has pretty strict gun laws already

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Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Dec 14 2012 at 8:30pm
As far as the US goes it has some of the strictest laws in the whole country

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
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Posted By: zolloh
Date Posted: Dec 14 2012 at 8:34pm

^^^Yep, Chicago also has some of the strictest laws in the country.

No gun control law can stop someone who is out to kill his mother and 6yr old babies.



Posted By: Dehinds
Date Posted: Dec 14 2012 at 8:53pm
Interesting.


Posted By: JamCaygirl
Date Posted: Dec 14 2012 at 10:26pm
hmm indeed....

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Posted By: ms_wonderland
Date Posted: Dec 15 2012 at 2:17am
The article that I didn't read is cool and all but since blacks choose to kill each other much more than they kill anyone else I can't see why whites would want blacks to join along with gun control laws anyway.



Posted By: Prazol60
Date Posted: Dec 15 2012 at 4:44am
Originally posted by zolloh zolloh wrote:

^^^Yep, Chicago also has some of the strictest laws in the country.

No gun control law can stop someone who is out to kill his mother and 6yr old babies.


This is sadly true. Even countries where gun control is much tighter there are people who will always find a way to get them and misuse them.


Posted By: newdiva1
Date Posted: Dec 15 2012 at 5:12am
Originally posted by Jewelsnyc Jewelsnyc wrote:

THIS IS WHAT THE "OTHERS" ARE TEACHING THEIR CHILDREN!!



WAKE UP PEOPLE!!

It's real in the field. The war has begun, it's just many of us aren't aware.
 
 
 
 
that is my thing jewels.  we're out here scared to teach our kids about the sh*t then are suprised when they don't understand the ramifications of shooting someone.  There is nothing wrong with teaching your kids about guns and shooting.  If you're doing it right you're also teaching fire arm safety, respect and self control. If ya'll parents out here are on ya'll game like ya'll say you are then....an accidental shooting shouldn't be a fear.  Right now most of our kids our learning from thugs on the block and/or Black Ops II. 
 
These white folks out here ain't playin'.  We're out here gettin' shot up an' all kind of ting like sheep by white folks and our own at the same time. 
 
There's a walking dead joke that folks have...essentially it's I hope I have red neck friends for when the sh*t goes down...and other similiar sh*t.  But the thing is.... that it's for the most part true.   Should anything ..ugly happen....the majority of black folks in the States would have to depend on red necks should the world go back to living off the land equals survival.  U got folks swearing up and down they not gone take "the chip" so....are your survival skills together?


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Sometimes when sh*t happens...you say fucc - Cyndi Lauper

let's look death in the face and say "whatever man". -Hurley.


Posted By: EPITOME
Date Posted: Dec 15 2012 at 5:28am
i know black ppl who know how to shoot and own guns.  my LS loves guns so just bc it's not on a youtube video doesn't mean black ppl don't know how to shoot

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Posted By: newdiva1
Date Posted: Dec 15 2012 at 5:39am
^^^i'm not saying that black folks don't know how to shoot.  i'm saying the majority of black folks don't know how to shoot for food or to protect themselves. 
 
 
actually......nevermind the rest.  that is all.


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Chris and Koochie split! - Mrshairdo

Sometimes when sh*t happens...you say fucc - Cyndi Lauper

let's look death in the face and say "whatever man". -Hurley.


Posted By: newdiva1
Date Posted: Dec 15 2012 at 5:43am
Kinda like the DC sniper situation.  Everybody knew he was white ..and not just based off craziness.  Black folks are not known for sniper rifles and woods and such.  that's why I said majority black.

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Chris and Koochie split! - Mrshairdo

Sometimes when sh*t happens...you say fucc - Cyndi Lauper

let's look death in the face and say "whatever man". -Hurley.


Posted By: newdiva1
Date Posted: Dec 15 2012 at 5:47am
....and how come we can't have black fathers/uncles whomever on YT teaching their kids about how to hunt,  shoot, gun control and woods and dear and all that?  Maybe these racist gun toters would at least have a second thoughts if they saw that alot of black folks are legally arming themselves.
 
actually....that would prolly be the way to really outlaw guns.  let it get out that black folks in droves are becoming legal gun owners.


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Chris and Koochie split! - Mrshairdo

Sometimes when sh*t happens...you say fucc - Cyndi Lauper

let's look death in the face and say "whatever man". -Hurley.


Posted By: JamCaygirl
Date Posted: Dec 15 2012 at 6:04am

The longest war: The shooting at a Connecticut school shows, once again, that there’s no end in sight to our lethal way of life

12 hrs ago
Walter Shapiro's Yahoo! News column examines how character collides with policymaking in Washington and in politics. Shapiro, who just finished covering his ninth presidential campaign, also is writing a book about his con-man great uncle who cheated Hitler.

By Walter Shapiro

Sometime between the shootings in Columbine in 1999 and at a Tucson supermarket with Gabby Giffords in early 2011, Americans stopped uttering the pieties about “Never again.” Now we are heartsick, but somehow never completely surprised, when we hear the latest gruesome news bulletins from a movie theater in Aurora or a quiet elementary school in Newtown.

We are a nation of 311 million people and roughly a similar number of guns. (Since there is no central federal registry of firearms and a 100-year-old unlicensed weapon can be lethal, estimates are far from precise.) What we do know for certain is that there are almost as many legal places to buy guns ( http://abcnews.go.com/US/guns-america-statistical/story?id=17939758#.UMu2l3fhdaO" rel="nofollow - 130,000 registered dealers ) as gasoline stations (144,000). Through the end of November, the FBI conducted nearly http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/reports/20121203_1998_2012_monthly_yearly_totals.pdf" rel="nofollow - 17 million background checks of prospective gun owners this year.

This is the Faustian bargain that comes with being a 21st-century American. We are a nation of stubborn individualism and lethal gun violence. These two characteristics are entwined in our national psyche. And—as much as I weep over the dead children at Sandy Hook Elementary School—I sadly know that nothing will change in my lifetime. 

The last glimmer of hope for effective gun control in America died in 2008 when the Supreme Court (District of Columbia v. Heller) endorsed an expansive view of the right to bear arms. As Justice Antonin Scalia declared in the majority opinion, “The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia.”

It is hard to pin down exactly when Americans made the collective decision that periodic massacres of the innocent are the price that we supposedly pay for our liberties.

Maybe it dates back to the late19th century when Americans in peaceful communities embraced the myth of the Wild West and the gunslinger. Maybe it partially reflects the tabloid fascination that accompanied the gangster era of the 1920s and 1930s. Maybe it has something to do with the way that movies—that most American of art forms—have successfully turned mass violence into a mass commodity.

Politics also played a role as well. As Jill Lepore pointed out in a http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/04/23/120423fa_fact_lepore?currentPage=all" rel="nofollow - New Yorker article earlier this year, the National Rifle Association (NRA) only embarked on its modern crusade against virtually all gun legislation around 1970. Fully entering the political arena with its endorsement of Ronald Reagan for president in 1980, the NRA emerged as a key player in the conservative coalition that came to dominate the Republican Party.

It’s hard to remember that for a while in the 1980s and 1990s, a limited form of gun control seemed politically possible. Reagan’s press secretary James Brady, badly wounded in the John Hinckley assassination attempt on Reagan, became a courageous Republican symbol for sensible regulation of the most lethal weaponry.

But then too many on Capitol Hill (Democrats as well as Republicans) grew fearful in the face of the frenzied opposition from the NRA. And following the 2008 Heller decision, it seemed the height of folly for legislators to take on gun control since the Supreme Court had so narrowed the framework for permissible regulation. As a result, even though the Aurora shootings took place in a swing state (Colorado) in an election year, Obama and the Democrats at the time never even raised the possibility of new federal legislation.

This should not be portrayed in cartoonish terms as a story of the white hats (liberals with a visceral hatred of guns) versus the black hats (hunters and other Americans who enjoy owning firearms). There was an element of cultural superiority to the urban liberal disdain for gun ownership, just as there was a self-destructive stubbornness to conservative opposition to all forms of regulation.

The result is an America that no sane person of any political persuasion could have possibly wished for. Who in his right mind wants to live in a country where maybe twice a year a crazed individual guns down dozens of people in schools and theaters? There is no plausible remedy since we are neither going to disarm Americans nor are we going to pass out guns to elementary school teachers as a just-in-case precaution.

All we can do is mourn and mourn again. And think of the young children who died only because they went to school giggling over silly things and dreaming of recess. Such is the American way of life and, sadly, death.

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Posted By: juniordetective
Date Posted: Dec 15 2012 at 8:59am
Originally posted by newdiva1 newdiva1 wrote:

Kinda like the DC sniper situation.  Everybody knew he was white ..and not just based off craziness.  Black folks are not known for sniper rifles and woods and such.  that's why I said majority black.


DC Sniper was not white. He was Black.


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Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Dec 15 2012 at 9:03am
She was making a point of why people thought they were white. 

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Posted By: sexibeach
Date Posted: Dec 15 2012 at 9:11am
i have a gun b/c i've been robbed so i will protect my home and my kids if i need too. but these weapons that folks get like they are in combat is too extra.. on my job we have guns b/c i work in a courtroom but other than that, its too much.. i do believe in gun control laws that punish criminals that get guns illegally and commit crimes I think harsher sentences should be applied.. 

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Posted By: Jewelsnyc
Date Posted: Dec 15 2012 at 9:45am
The point of the original post is many black people oppose gun laws and would agree with stiffer gun control laws under the pretense it would reduce crime in their neighborhood. However, the fact remains that prior to you just agreeing with one side or the other, you should do some fact checking and soul searching.

I do not agree with having military style weaponry for the everyday citizen. During my training I was taught that your basic hand gun is to basically create holes and cause the person to bleed out. However the assualt rifles that are made for combat are created to liquify the insides of the person. The velocity of the gun and the way the bullets are created are so strong they move at sonic speed...thus destroying organs at the molecular level....I sat there with my eyes bugged out when I heard that...




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Posted By: PeacefulOne
Date Posted: Dec 15 2012 at 10:33am
Originally posted by Jewelsnyc Jewelsnyc wrote:

The point of the original post is many black people oppose gun laws and would agree with stiffer gun control laws under the pretense it would reduce crime in their neighborhood. However, the fact remains that prior to you just agreeing with one side or the other, you should do some fact checking and soul searching.

I do not agree with having military style weaponry for the everyday citizen. During my training I was taught that your basic hand gun is to basically create holes and cause the person to bleed out. However the assualt rifles that are made for combat are created to liquify the insides of the person. The velocity of the gun and the way the bullets are created are so strong they move at sonic speed...thus destroying organs at the molecular level....I sat there with my eyes bugged out when I heard that...
 
Yes.  And yes again. Thats crazy!
 
And yes to what Sexi said, the laws do need to be more stringent for those that misuse guns.
But I wonder what there is to be done when people, like the nut who killed those kids, has every intent on killing themselves.  As the above article points out, do we just accept it as the cost we pay for having the right to bear arms?
 
I wonder what the constitutional writers would say about this today.



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