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Topic: TJ Holmes show
Posted By: jonesable
Subject: TJ Holmes show
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:01pm
If you wanted to watch its on.

Doing a segment on Violence in Chicago .

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Posted By: Babydoll9163
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:05pm
THANK YOU for the reminder. I stay forgetting LOL


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Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:12pm
Wow

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Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: eanaj5
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:13pm
watching

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Posted By: noneyons
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:15pm
just tuned in

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-Agent Smith


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:15pm
More ppl have been killed in Chicago than US military personnel in Iraq?

That's just wow

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: Babydoll9163
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:16pm
Those stats on the Chi are crazy...

It's tough out here for our people



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Stupid ppl are like a unicorn. They too do not exist. They are just liberated... liberated from knowledge. -nycdiva


Posted By: carolina cutie
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:18pm
Damn it Chi-town.Cry

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Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:23pm
She fears for her own life?
She needs to leave there

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: Babydoll9163
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:24pm
Girl with what money?

Everybody in the ghetto wants to get out but don't have the resources to.



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Stupid ppl are like a unicorn. They too do not exist. They are just liberated... liberated from knowledge. -nycdiva


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:26pm
True.


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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: solena
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:27pm
wow dont know what to say about the mother blaming others for her sons death.


Posted By: noneyons
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:27pm
the mother doesn't get it, i don't think. she says she thinks the rapper boy was responsible for her son's murder when in fact the lifestyle he led is what caused his imminent death.

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As a species,human beings define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from.
-Agent Smith


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:30pm
The mother nor the son gets it yet.
I hope they do soon

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: solena
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:34pm
the fact that she sees nothing wrong with the type of music he made says a lot yea you have other children and you cant be with them 24/7 but damn own up to your mistakes


Posted By: Babydoll9163
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:35pm
True. If it wasn't a beef with Chief Keef that killed him, some other situation would have.

That boy didn't stand a chance in a gang in the Chi.



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Stupid ppl are like a unicorn. They too do not exist. They are just liberated... liberated from knowledge. -nycdiva


Posted By: EPITOME
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:36pm
too late. wompity wompy womp

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Posted By: noneyons
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:37pm
i love greg mathisHeart

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As a species,human beings define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from.
-Agent Smith


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:37pm
Originally posted by EPITOME EPITOME wrote:

too late. wompity wompy womp

Erm...it's still on....


Posted By: solena
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:38pm
hes got some serious brows


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:39pm
Makes me kinda sad

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

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Posted By: noneyons
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:40pm
jamiee foxx called obama "our lord and savior"Stern Smile those are big shoes to fill but he can start by doing something about this travesty. Ion wanna make it about him though. 

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As a species,human beings define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from.
-Agent Smith


Posted By: Babydoll9163
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:42pm
What is Obama supposed to do? Go yoke up kids in the Chi and tell them to stop? Confused

We need to start taking responsibility for our own communities rather than look to some outside source to make us do better.



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Stupid ppl are like a unicorn. They too do not exist. They are just liberated... liberated from knowledge. -nycdiva


Posted By: noneyons
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:44pm
he's got time to fight a war on drugs and guns in mexico so.....

but again, i don't want to make this about him.



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As a species,human beings define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from.
-Agent Smith


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:46pm
Ughhhh stop rapping.

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: Babydoll9163
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:48pm
Originally posted by noneyons noneyons wrote:

he's got time to fight a war on drugs and guns in mexico so.....

but again, i don't want to make this about him.



Again what do you propose he do?


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Stupid ppl are like a unicorn. They too do not exist. They are just liberated... liberated from knowledge. -nycdiva


Posted By: noneyons
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:49pm
nothing. nothing at all.

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As a species,human beings define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from.
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Posted By: Babydoll9163
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:50pm
okay Sleepy




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Stupid ppl are like a unicorn. They too do not exist. They are just liberated... liberated from knowledge. -nycdiva


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:50pm
Want him to send tanks into the southside?


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:53pm
Hell with all those ppl dying it warrants a firm and immediate response.

Yeah the ppl need to change but that takes time .


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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:55pm
Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:

Hell with all those ppl dying it warrants a firm and immediate response.

Yeah the ppl need to change but that takes time .

If you look at the stats it's actually been steadily decreasing over the yrs. 


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:58pm
Originally posted by Sang Froid Sang Froid wrote:


Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:

Hell with all those ppl dying it warrants a firm and immediate response.

Yeah the ppl need to change but that takes time .


If you look at the stats it's actually been steadily decreasing over the yrs. 

2008: 513[7]
2009: 459[7]
2010: 436[7]
2011: 433[7]
2012: 500(to date)[8]

Well it's back up

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 10:59pm
You'd have to see why....and see if it increases again.


Posted By: Babydoll9163
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:01pm
More military/police influence in the ghetto would only lead to more racial profiling and police brutality.

The source of our problems are de-emphasis on education and crumbling family structures. Obama can't make that happen for people.



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Stupid ppl are like a unicorn. They too do not exist. They are just liberated... liberated from knowledge. -nycdiva


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:03pm
1990: 851
1991: 927
1992: 943
1993: 855
1994: 931
1995: 828
1996: 796
1997: 761
1998: 704
1999: 643
2000: 633
2001: 667
2002: 656
2003: 601
2004: 453
2005: 451
2006: 471
2007: 448
2008: 513
2009: 459
2010: 436
2011: 433
2012: 500(to date)



Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:03pm
Naw those are consistently dangerous numbers .
A swift response from the federal goverment wouldn't be over the top.
With Chiacgo being a high profile city it could be a template for other violent cities of the like on how to tackle those issues.

I wouldn't mind declaring a state of emergency in inner cities.



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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:06pm
Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:

Naw those are consistently dangerous numbers .
A swift response from the federal goverment wouldn't be over the top.
With Chiacgo being a high profile city it could be a template for other violent cities of the like on how to tackle those issues.

I wouldn't mind declaring a state of emergency in inner cities.


What shall they do?


Posted By: Babydoll9163
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:07pm
Can someone specifically state what action they want to take place and why?


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Stupid ppl are like a unicorn. They too do not exist. They are just liberated... liberated from knowledge. -nycdiva


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:08pm
The usual but with more emphasis .
Alot of cooperation between the local ,state, and federal government .
Because education and the like are mainly state issues.

Most of the violence happens in the black poor areas ( of course)
Get in there , implement programs , send researchers to see what works and what doesn't.


I'm not saying that the federal government is the panacea to our ills but to ask nothing of the government when it is its duty to support is ppl is silly

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: Babydoll9163
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:11pm
I'm not saying they should leave us to die.

But I have yet to see a specific example of what the gov't should do and how it will help.

Like I said, everybody is yelling "someone should take care of that" instead of doing something themselves.



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Stupid ppl are like a unicorn. They too do not exist. They are just liberated... liberated from knowledge. -nycdiva


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:11pm
But.......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate" rel="nofollow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:14pm
But what?
Use Chicago because of its big name and long history.

Use what you do there as a template on how to combat violence and poverty in other areas.


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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:14pm
Originally posted by Babydoll9163 Babydoll9163 wrote:

I'm not saying they should leave us to die.

But I have yet to see a specific example of what the gov't should do and how it will help.

Like I said, everybody is yelling "someone should take care of that" instead of doing something themselves.


The problem started when people stopped caring about their children.
That high *&%^$#@Eed nigguhs up.


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:17pm
It can be both.
Evolution of a community can take generations.
But government could stop the bleeding at least temporarily until the ppl can take back their community.

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Posted By: eanaj5
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:19pm
Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:

It can be both.
Evolution of a community can take generations.
But government could stop the bleeding at least temporarily until the ppl who give a damn can take back their community.


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Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:19pm
Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:

It can be both.
Evolution of a community can take generations.
But government could stop the bleeding at least temporarily until the ppl can take back their community.

You think these kids will be receptive to the gov't?
Some white men coming in and pretending they care?
They see through the bullsh*t very well.




Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:21pm
How many black male teachers in Chi?
Is there a Call Me Mister program?

State may need to pour more money in the school food budget.
Send these kids home with a meal too.
Not just breakfast and lunch but a snack too or a box dinner .

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:22pm
You know damn well there are 190290290320 programs for these kids.
They'd rather shoot at the police. 


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:25pm
I liked that incentive to be at PTA meetings too.
It's sad but ok.
Something to get the parents and the teachers in the same room.

We need teachers who want to teach too.
Pay them and pay them well .
That attracts smarter and better canidates

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
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Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: Babydoll9163
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:29pm
Wasn't there a thread about Chicago paying parents to go to PTA meetings?


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Stupid ppl are like a unicorn. They too do not exist. They are just liberated... liberated from knowledge. -nycdiva


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:29pm
Yeah I get that it's pathetic but I'm past that now.


And I know some of the parents don't care and that's an issue but there are also some parents who don't have the gas money or fare or whatever to get their and back.
So that could help them too.


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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: Babydoll9163
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:35pm
PTA meeting are good and all, but that won't keep kids from killing one another.

The truth is our homes are fragmented. Having babies young and single starts these kids at a detriment.

I'd be in favor of mandatory parent training for all CPS, neglect, abuse cases that come through the courts. Access to low or no cost family therapy/training.

But that would cost a lot of money that the government really doesn't have. So again, idk. I think more would be done if each community took the reigns and responsibilities for their own.



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Stupid ppl are like a unicorn. They too do not exist. They are just liberated... liberated from knowledge. -nycdiva


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:38pm
Alot of these ppl don't even know how to do that.
You and Sang talking about we have to do it on our own which is fair but these ppl either don't have the means or don't know the way.

The government at least has the means .
Research can pin point the programs and measures that are the most and least successful and we can start cutting the fat from there.

Exhaust allll resources

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: Babydoll9163
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:42pm
Honestly, I think the value of the family has gone down for us. People don't use condoms or birth control, have babies way younger than they should, can't pay for or raise them on their own, the cycle goes on and on.

That's why I say it starts with us. We have to give a damn about ourselves. No government can make you do that. And jones there are umpteen amount of programs out here. I'm not saying more wouldn't be better but clearly creating programs isn't fixing stuff.



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Stupid ppl are like a unicorn. They too do not exist. They are just liberated... liberated from knowledge. -nycdiva


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:45pm
Think tanks .
Cut the ones that aren't working create new ones that could help.
Focus on family support and sex education.
We can't fix it all but we can eradicate a significant portion.

Therapy and counseling for students .

Think , think, think.
I can't just sigh and give up.


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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: Babydoll9163
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:47pm
Who advocated giving up?

I'm saying rather than waiting around for Obama nem to do this, why don't you start up some of these organizations yourself?



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Stupid ppl are like a unicorn. They too do not exist. They are just liberated... liberated from knowledge. -nycdiva


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:48pm
Federal government has the moolah .
And President Obama has the bully pulpit.

State and local government included in this .

I'm not saying its all on the government but they can be powerful in alleviating this problem too.

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: Babydoll9163
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:50pm
Alright then girl...

You send your letter to Congress and keep on waiting...



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Stupid ppl are like a unicorn. They too do not exist. They are just liberated... liberated from knowledge. -nycdiva


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:52pm
Worth a shot right?

Clyburn and my senator and county council member know I won't hesitate to call or email.


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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: noneyons
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:56pm
Yall heard how those former gang bangers talked about guns being dumped into their communities?

How about the federal government make an effort to tighten up on illegal gun trade?

Oh, wait. They did "address" it. But not because of the violence in Chicago. nope. They addressed it only after that crazy white boy killed all those people in the movie theater in Colorado. Guess that's a start, right? But of course they backed down after the NRA lobbyists put pressure on their asses. 

 


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As a species,human beings define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from.
-Agent Smith


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:57pm
Money doesn't matter.



Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:58pm
Good point about gun control.

Can the local government impose curfews.
Does it already exist?

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Nov 28 2012 at 11:59pm
How good is the foster care system there?
How strict are the truancy laws ?

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: noneyons
Date Posted: Nov 29 2012 at 12:02am
I read about some new, recently federally mandated initiative on gun violence in Connecticut so let's not pretend like the federal government can't play an active role in local matters. I'll see if i can find the article.

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As a species,human beings define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from.
-Agent Smith


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Nov 29 2012 at 12:03am
Yep the federal government can provide incentives to the state government on plenty of things.

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: Babydoll9163
Date Posted: Nov 29 2012 at 12:04am
Throwing more black people in jail won't fix sh*t.


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Stupid ppl are like a unicorn. They too do not exist. They are just liberated... liberated from knowledge. -nycdiva


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Nov 29 2012 at 12:06am
Nigguhs better make sure they got their freedom papers. 


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Nov 29 2012 at 12:07am
I'm not talking jail.

I was against drug testing ppl for food stamps if it meant cutting them off.
But I could be for that if it meant funneling them into programs and measures that could help them.

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: noneyons
Date Posted: Nov 29 2012 at 12:16am
Still looking for the article but I stumbled upon this little gem while searching. 

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2012/07/2012721152715628181.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2012/07/2012721152715628181.html


just a snippet:

Juarez, Mexico - The US Central Intelligence Agency and other international security forces "don't fight drug traffickers", a spokesman for the Chihuahua state government in northern Mexico has told Al Jazeera, instead "they try to manage the drug trade".

Allegations about official complicity in the drug business are nothing new when they come from activists, professors, campaigners or even former officials. However, an official spokesman for the authorities in one of Mexico's most violent states - one which directly borders Texas - going on the record with such accusations is unique.

"It's like pest control companies, they only control," Guillermo Terrazas Villanueva, the Chihuahua spokesman, told Al Jazeera last month at his office in Juarez. "If you finish off the pests, you are out of a job. If they finish the drug business, they finish their jobs."






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As a species,human beings define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from.
-Agent Smith


Posted By: noneyons
Date Posted: Nov 29 2012 at 12:17am
I'm sure yall follow where I'm going with that...



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As a species,human beings define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from.
-Agent Smith


Posted By: noneyons
Date Posted: Nov 29 2012 at 12:23am


Reuters) - The Obama administration is taking a cautious step toward confronting the politically tricky subject of gun violence with an initiative unveiled on Tuesday that focuses on prevention.

It was not the gun control launch that some of Barack Obama's supporters hoped for after the president won a second four-year term in a November 6 election.

Instead, U.S. Justice Department and Connecticut officials announced a statewide program that targets repeat criminals, creates alternatives for potential gang members and rallies neighborhoods against violence.

The initiative, known as Project Longevity, will send new federal grant money to Connecticut and involve agents, academics and social workers working for or with the FBI and the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol,  http://www.reuters.com/sectors/industries/overview?industryCode=115&lc=int_mb_1001" rel="nofollow - Tobacco , Firearms and Explosives.

"Today's announcement underscores our commitment to working together across levels of government and jurisdictional boundaries to protect the American people from the crime that threatens too many neighborhoods and claims too many lives," U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder told a news conference in New Haven, Connecticut.

Connecticut Governor Dan Malloy, a Democrat, in June adopted a strategy known as "focused deterrence" that targets a small number of suspects who are under the supervision of probation officers or otherwise well known to law enforcement.

The model, which emphasizes education and other services for those suspects, as well as community meetings, has been credited with reducing violence in Boston and elsewhere.

Connecticut will be the first statewide test of the model, officials said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/27/us-usa-guns-idUSBRE8AQ0JS20121127




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As a species,human beings define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from.
-Agent Smith


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 10:02pm
Bump

Today they are talking about black films and how they have changed over the years.

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 10:12pm
Issa Rae is a correspondent type on the show.
She's on now

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 10:14pm
My song.


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 10:15pm
That video leaves me so confused

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: newdiva1
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 10:32pm
@noneyons.  I thought it was common knowledge that the US gets paid to death with the drug trade.  they're in cahoots.  ain't tryna stop a damn thing.

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let's look death in the face and say "whatever man". -Hurley.


Posted By: newdiva1
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 10:36pm
besides........the same gubberment that dumped guns and drugs in the community ain't really tryna help people out.   Imagine the amount of people out of a job and the money lost if the community cleaned itself up....even by 50%.

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Chris and Koochie split! - Mrshairdo

Sometimes when sh*t happens...you say fucc - Cyndi Lauper

let's look death in the face and say "whatever man". -Hurley.


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 10:37pm
Y'all they are talking bout the Nina Simone and Zoe thing.



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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: Limalady
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 10:38pm
What is this crazy guy talking about?


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 10:39pm
A filmmaker on the said Zoe is really putting her all into this movie.


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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 10:40pm
Originally posted by Limalady Limalady wrote:

What is this crazy guy talking about?


Yeah he was just being crazy

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 10:40pm
that movie.


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 10:47pm
Yes yes yes
Black movies have declined

I like this topic

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 10:48pm
Lol this man is going in on Tyler Perry

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 10:48pm
Who is this gap tooth muh*&%^$#@Ea?


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 10:49pm
She doesn't think TP movies are good quality either lol

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: Limalady
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 10:50pm
Originally posted by Sang Froid Sang Froid wrote:

Who is this gap tooth muh*&%^$#@Ea?
 
He hasn't made sense the whole show. I hope they start cutting him off.


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 10:51pm
Babyboy was worse than all TP movies. 


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 10:51pm
Lol this man seems like he is about to fly off the handle.

But Tyler Perry movies are bad.
I agree with him and that girl .


Lol he crazy .

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 10:52pm
Originally posted by Sang Froid Sang Froid wrote:

Babyboy was worse than all TP movies. 


Naw.
The storyline and quality of the acting were way better

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 10:53pm
Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:

Originally posted by Sang Froid Sang Froid wrote:

Babyboy was worse than all TP movies. 


Naw.
The storyline and quality of the acting were way better

Lmao. 
A mama's boy that sells stolen clothes and doesn't take care of his kids?
I hate that damn movie.


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 10:54pm
I'm not talking about the content.
I'm talking about a put well put together story
I'm talking story and character development and quality of the writing.


Seriously sang?

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 10:55pm
It was a terrible movie.
Every thing about it was terrible. 


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 10:57pm
TP movies lack real depth and quality.

Baby Boy you can say what you will about the content but it was a better overall movie.
Writing, directing , plot development , character development , acting...

I thought that was clear but ok you see differently

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 10:58pm
Ugh. I wish BET wouldn't censor nigguh.


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 10:59pm
Rotten tomatoes never fails me and Baby Boy is rated way higher than any typical TP movie .....and for good reason

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: Limalady
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 10:59pm
Originally posted by Sang Froid Sang Froid wrote:

Ugh. I wish BET wouldn't censor nigguh.
 
They just shouldn't have bothered playing that song at the end.


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 11:01pm
People just hate TP for some reason.
White folks probably think he's an abomination because he knows how to make money.


Posted By: jonesable
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 11:02pm
Not hate.
I like him for employing black actors and being profitable.

But he does not make quality work.
That's not hate ...that's clear .

He has not grown much at all .
That's not downing him that's the truth

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Never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
Donne

Havmercy Dez Bryant


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Dec 05 2012 at 11:04pm
Lol @ Babyboy bein rated the same as Friday.
FOH.



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