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Topic: Would you go (regularly) to a natural hair salon?
Posted By: shortnsweet08
Subject: Would you go (regularly) to a natural hair salon?
Date Posted: Nov 15 2012 at 8:20pm

Would you ever consider relying on a natural stylist/specialist for your hair care needs? I'm kind of wondering what it would be like, I don't know if I can figure my hair out, maybe someone who specializes in natural hair can? Thoughts? Does anyone regularly go to the salon?



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Posted By: csungrl09
Date Posted: Nov 15 2012 at 8:56pm
not at those outrageous prices they stay charging!

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Posted By: KinksnWinks
Date Posted: Nov 15 2012 at 8:58pm
I dont know if I felt like they understood me and my hair, and appreciated the work I have put into her, maybe I would, but I have tried several, and they have let me down and damaged my hair, so now i'm scared to try anyone else


Posted By: natosha99
Date Posted: Nov 16 2012 at 6:13am
Originally posted by csungrl09 csungrl09 wrote:

not at those outrageous prices they stay charging!


THIS!!!!! They act like we can't two strand twist our own hair. I saw a woman charging 60.00 for a twist out. Please.


Posted By: natosha99
Date Posted: Nov 16 2012 at 6:15am
Originally posted by shortnsweet08 shortnsweet08 wrote:

Would you ever consider relying on a natural stylist/specialist for your hair care needs? I'm kind of wondering what it would be like, I don't know if I can figure my hair out, maybe someone who specializes in natural hair can? Thoughts? Does anyone regularly go to the salon?



I go to the salon once a year, just to get a correct trim. I trim my own hair during the year and manage it myself. I also may go to the salon to get a weave during the winter. You can watch youtube and get a grasp of how to handle your hair. You just need to find a vlogger with similar hair to yours.

How long have you been natural?


Posted By: natural essence
Date Posted: Nov 16 2012 at 7:26am
^ I do the same as you Natosha...go for a trim, weave or whenever my hair just doesn't feel right I will go and have my hair dresser do a deep conditioner and then I am able to manage my hair again on my own.

This forum and you tube has really taught me a lot about how to take care of my hair so when I see a hairdresser it is a treat!


Posted By: Naturalchick30
Date Posted: Nov 16 2012 at 8:23am
I would go maybe once every few months for a trim and style but I have yet to find one that doesnt overcharge. 


Posted By: femmemuscleisback
Date Posted: Nov 16 2012 at 8:41am
nope.

They are late just like most of the stylists that do relaxers, weaves, or trims.

They yack on the cell phone like every one else..

They usually over charge for their service - just like the rest of them..

Have their friends coming into the shop and hangin' out and talking over your head while you're getting your hair braided or twisted - oh - just like Shanequa down the street who does perms.

and no,  just like so many self-proclaimed "weavologists", "natural hair experts" "colorists" " "guru's", "stylists" "creamy crack dealers" "chemical witches" etc?  Many of them have absolutely no idea how to work with or grow/nurture 4b/c hair.

The last person who worked on my head?  Sight for sore eyes... had fantastic weave (and traction alopecia on the crown of her head) - but was asking me "How do you get OUR hair to grow like that?"  "What are you using to make your hair grow?"Confused

She was a self proclaimed natural stylist..

From New Jersey (New Joisey)..

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Posted By: tasty0619
Date Posted: Nov 16 2012 at 10:23am
No, I wouldn't go regularly. I would go for color or a cut though.

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Posted By: Prazol60
Date Posted: Nov 16 2012 at 11:06am
I would if they were reasonably priced and knew how to do a large variety of styles. I can't style on my own, it never turns out right. 


Posted By: yaya24
Date Posted: Nov 16 2012 at 11:48am
Regularly-- No.

I have found a natural stylist in Dallas that is really great though. She has been natural for 15+ years and was reccomended to me by my SO's sister who is also natural.. but like others have posted.. those prices are not for me.

I used to go once a month for her to shampoo DC blowdry and cornrow.. Her technique was flawless, she works in a cute suite and NEVER talks on her phone or  eats over my head or overbooks (huge pet peeves of mine). Its just me, her and soulful music and conversations for my allotted 1 hour appointment.

She is truly a gem.

However, now that I have my blowdry technique down she'll probably only see me when I feel like treating myself to a handsfree hair day.

Great  natural stylists ARE out here. My natural stylist did not do any of those things femme listed.
I'm not going to say that there are many, but they do exist.


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Posted By: PinkIsPowerful
Date Posted: Nov 16 2012 at 1:08pm
Yes!  It is amazing how women would spend hundreds when they were wearing relaxers and weaves, but will not spend $60 or $80 on professional natural hair care...  I just don't get our people...Unhappy


Posted By: RoxieDream
Date Posted: Nov 16 2012 at 1:57pm
Originally posted by csungrl09 csungrl09 wrote:

not at those outrageous prices they stay charging!



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Posted By: yaya24
Date Posted: Nov 16 2012 at 2:05pm
Originally posted by PinkIsPowerful PinkIsPowerful wrote:

Yes!  It is amazing how women would spend hundreds when they were wearing relaxers and weaves, but will not spend $60 or $80 on professional natural hair care...  I just don't get our people...Unhappy


You don't understand how saving money to do something you know how to do (yourself) makes sense?

I'm confused.
You must be a stylist?
You mad? Geek


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Posted By: RoxieDream
Date Posted: Nov 16 2012 at 2:10pm
You SHOULD pay for relaxers and other chemical services. People do a lot of damage to their hair trying to do these things alone. Same goes with weaves. Not to mention, a lot of people don't know how to do their own weaves anyway.

Natural hair care services are almost double the cost of relaxed services and they're almost always something you can do on your own. It's not like we're not supporting black owned businesses. We're keeping money in our own pockets. I can shampoo, deep condition, steam, etc. my hair at home and I will still have hair left on my head.


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Posted By: PinkIsPowerful
Date Posted: Nov 16 2012 at 2:10pm
No I'm not a stylist. I'm someone who wore weaves for years and who enjoys the pampering of a good salon, thanksSmile  Going to a salon for many women is about more than getting your hair done, it's also about the experience and pampering...


Posted By: RoxieDream
Date Posted: Nov 16 2012 at 2:11pm
Originally posted by PinkIsPowerful PinkIsPowerful wrote:

No I'm not a stylist. I'm someone who wore weaves for years and who enjoys the pampering of a good salon, thanksSmile  Going to a salon for many women is about more than getting your hair done, it's also about the experience and pampering...



I'm all for pampering .... but i can't see doing that on a regular basis




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Posted By: PinkIsPowerful
Date Posted: Nov 16 2012 at 2:14pm
Well it sounds like bcz we are still in the early adoption stage of natural hair care, there are not many well educated natural hair stylist in abundance.  I happen to have a great one where I live, thank God!  So, for me being a business woman, I don't mind paying 60-80 bucks after a long two weeks of working.  But that's me...


Posted By: yaya24
Date Posted: Nov 16 2012 at 2:17pm
Originally posted by PinkIsPowerful PinkIsPowerful wrote:

No I'm not a stylist. I'm someone who wore weaves for years and who enjoys the pampering of a good salon, thanksSmile  Going to a salon for many women is about more than getting your hair done, it's also about the experience and pampering...


Thanks for the clarification Thumbs Up
Like Roxie said:: I'm all for pampering but..I still don't find a natural stylist on a regular basis beneficial for ME.

I like doing my hair weekly, and I don't see the need for my stylist to get paid $200 a month (not including tip) to do what I can do for myself for free at the house.

I work and like my money to go where I think it needs to go.
Everyone has a preference, not sure why/how thats confusing.


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Posted By: RoxieDream
Date Posted: Nov 16 2012 at 2:19pm
Oh there are lots of educated hair stylists, at least here in Atlanta. I'd just rather put my $60+ elsewhere than in someone's pockets for doing what I could do.

Besides, I sweat from working out so much that going to the hair salon is pointless.


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Posted By: PinkIsPowerful
Date Posted: Nov 16 2012 at 2:20pm
Maybe it's confusing for me bcz I'm one of those who DO NOT like doing my own hair...lol  I'm sure there are more of us out here, especially in corporate America


Posted By: RoxieDream
Date Posted: Nov 16 2012 at 2:23pm
Originally posted by PinkIsPowerful PinkIsPowerful wrote:

Maybe it's confusing for me bcz I'm one of those who DO NOT like doing my own hair...lol  I'm sure there are more of us out here, especially in corporate America



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Posted By: tvlady
Date Posted: Nov 16 2012 at 4:02pm
I never had a problem doing my own hair because I am rarely satisfied when leaving the salon. I always have to fiddle with my hair when I get home.  I stopped going to the salon regularly back i 2008 when I joined BHM and started taking care of my relaxed hair. I only went to the salon for a relaxer, weave or the occasional Dominican blow-out.  Now that I'm natural, I haven't been to the salon since I BC almost 8 months ago.  The prices are outrageous.  Twist outs last what a week tops and I'm suppose to pay 80+ for that.  That's more than a relaxer or a weave at the hood spot.  No thank you. 

There was a time when I spent 200-300 a month getting my hair done. I had a weekly appointment and my hair looked good all the time, but never did I get the results that I got on my own. My hair didn't grow and thrive until I took control of my hair care.  I'm sure there are some good natural stylists out there, but between the price and mixed reviews, I haven't found one that is worth my time or money. 

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Posted By: PinkIsPowerful
Date Posted: Nov 16 2012 at 4:07pm
Originally posted by tvlady tvlady wrote:


There was a time when I spent 200-300 a month getting my hair done. I had a weekly appointment and my hair looked good all the time, but never did I get the results that I got on my own. My hair didn't grow and thrive until I took control of my hair care.  I'm sure there are some good natural stylists out there, but between the price and mixed reviews, I haven't found one that is worth my time or money. 

Yes I agree with that, there are not that many natural hair stylist here in CT either.  I just happen to have found one of the few good ones.  I'd be stuck doing it myself if I had not found her.  I go twice a month exept when I wear my braids to give my hair a break...


Posted By: PinkIsPowerful
Date Posted: Nov 16 2012 at 4:08pm
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Posted By: luvmybiga$$fro
Date Posted: Nov 16 2012 at 4:18pm
For me and Cleo, the answer is a NO. I have a wonderful STYLIST. I captialized stylist bc she can style all types of hair, do every hair technique and/or service on any type of hair. Plus, she's into healthy hair practices. Similarly, she's had every type of way one can wear their hair and keeps a healthy head of hair herself. Although, she's a family friend, her prices are not out of this world for styles that one could be done at home/ cheaper. I am style challenged, but I know that certain styles should NOT be the price of a mortgage payment (especially when it ALL MY DIGGITY DARN HAIR IS TO BEING USED).
 
I'm notorious for taking cards from stylists and/or stopping in a salon to feel them out. I lubs my stylist and have no plans on leaving her; but I like to see 'what's hot on in the streets'LOL. I have noticed in my antedotal and personal experiments in my area is that: 1. Most 'natural stylists/ salons' are really the regular salon re -packaged as a natural salon/stylist with no real knowledge of natural hair and a pusher of a relaxer, 2. The prices are geared to those women who have no clue that a.with practice they can do those styles themselves  b. have tried and admit that they are style challenged/ wants to be pampered and doesn't mind the price and/or c. they have no clue that they are being overcharged(again I feel this way SOMETHING FEIRCE when its a style without extensions).
 
IMO, most of the "natural salons" in my area see natural hair as a NEW way to make money and have some women dependent on the stylist for the care and styling of their natural hair at ridiculous prices. Same product different packaging.


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Posted By: Louel
Date Posted: Nov 17 2012 at 5:30am
I dont know if we even have natural hair salons in the Netherlands, but even if we did... I wouldnt go...

Havent been to a salon in the last 5 years, and from my own experiences and the experiences from others I understand that hairdressers ALWAYS cut more than you want them to. That would be really disappointing for paying such high prices and for being so attentive to my own hair growth 


Posted By: marissy
Date Posted: Nov 17 2012 at 7:02am
No, I wouldn't go to a natural salon regularly.

1. The prices are a bit steep.
2. I went to a supposed natural salon, it was a horrible experience. I am surprised that I have no
       split ends.

If I do go, I may go to one of two salons in the Raleigh area that I heard were good. I keep putting it off because for both you have to fill out forms as a new customer and they are always booked on the days when I am in town. Ouch

Not going to the salon is not an issue of not wanting to be pampered/corporate america/any other excuse. It is the cost benefit of it and how an individual likes to have her hair. I never liked salons, even when relaxed, but I only go when I want a technique done that I can't do myself. Often, I find that I can style my hair better to my liking than most stylists.

Also, I like washing my hair often so it would be a waste paying $60-$100 for a style just to have it washed out. LOL But then again, I was never a 'hair' person. I am more into perfumes, makeup, and skin care. I probably wouldn't bat an eye at spending $60 on some of those, lol.


Posted By: AriesBabe09
Date Posted: Nov 17 2012 at 7:11am

I prefer to do my own hair now-a-days. But I do go to any reputable salon once per year to get my hair professionally trimmed and because I only go once a year I don't mind paying the prices some of them ask for (but I do have a limit of course). Especially if I've seen their work and know I'll leave the salon satisfied.



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Posted By: pnksky
Date Posted: Nov 17 2012 at 9:56am
I would go to a natural stylist regularly if her prices were reasonable. I've been natural for 5 years and I mostly wear braids because I cannot style my hair and natural stylists are expensive $75+.  I can get my hair braided for $180 keep them in for about 8 weeks so it's cheaper to get braids for me. There's just some things in life that we are not good at and hair is one of mine.


Posted By: shortnsweet08
Date Posted: Nov 17 2012 at 10:12am
Thanks for all the responses ladies. I'll be honest, I didn't even think about the cost, I'm very eh.....spoiledConfused.
I do imagine that they might not take the time really needed. Caring for natural hair DOES take time, and it seems like a stylist, who might not have much time, would be likely to tear a comb through the hair rather than taking the time to slowly and gently detangle. I think if I found someone I knew was good, I'd go, cause I'm kind of at a loss and feeling a little hopeless. I've been natural for like 4-5 year, and did my last BC about 2.5 years ago (due to severe heat damage after having my hair straightened ONCE), and my hair is about 2 inches past APL. I'm ok with my length, but I just CANT get this CensoredCensored breakage under control. It's not horrible breakage, and it's mainly when I wash cause I only style my hair once or twice during the week so I'm not touching it, but I can't stand it. My hair is very fine and I think prone to over moisturization, so I did an aphogee 2 step for the first time 2 weeks ago and have been upping my protein, but still, breakage!! some of the pieces are really short, some are up to 4 inches. I don't have split ends per se, but I do have splitting up the shaft, and some times the splits go pretty high up. I had a 3 inch trim back in June/July to get rid of them and have been wearing braids ever since, but the splitting is back!! How the hell is my hair splitting if its not even being manipulated? I'm just getting so fed up. I feel like my hair is too weak and fine to be able to withstand even the slightest touch. I try my best to be very slow and gentle, but still, breakage. I just am not sure what to do next, and am thinking maybe a stylist will know something I dont... siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiighhhhhh


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Posted By: modelbusiness82
Date Posted: Nov 17 2012 at 2:19pm
I have to agree with others on here, I've gone to stylists in the past when I relaxed my hair, and short of providing a good relaxer, the actual "style" given to me was lackluster. Now I would pay for someone to give me a weave as my closing skills are so so. But I don't need to pay someone to "install" a FLW when I know how to do that. And now that I learned how to do my own twist extensions, I'm certainly not paying for the pleasure of someone yanking on my head for 7+ hours.

If you don't know what to do with your hair or aren't good at styling, I think that you should go to a pro. However, do your research. As others have said, even up here in the Bronx, the "natural" stylists are really overcharging for basic styles that could be done at home if you take the time to research it.


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Posted By: wanderlust87
Date Posted: Nov 17 2012 at 7:31pm
@shortnsweet-   weren't you contemplating paying for the Komaza Care Analysis??  maybe you should re-consider trying that service.

@modelbusiness- I'm loving your style.   


Based on some of the replies, a thread listing top notch natural hair stylists/salons would be great.   


Posted By: modelbusiness82
Date Posted: Nov 17 2012 at 7:38pm
Thx wanderlust...I just finished it yesterday!!

I just think a lot of natural stylists throw crazy prices at people because they know they can't cut down on time by just slapping "creamy crack" on someone's head or blasting them with heat to tame the natural curl pattern.

Natural hair can be intimidating. But if you're willing to take the time to research and learn about your hair pattern and willing to go through trial and error, you can do it yourself for cheaper. Short of a professional trim, you don't really need to pay a stylist every week or two weeks. I literally don't spend a lot of time on my hair and it's super thick and the longest it's ever been *just past APL* in a natural state.

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Posted By: wanderlust87
Date Posted: Nov 17 2012 at 7:50pm
^^very very nice.  Can you do my hair?? LOL   




Posted By: shortnsweet08
Date Posted: Nov 17 2012 at 9:38pm
Wanderlust- LOL yes!! But it's been sold out since I don't know how long. It's been about 3 months. There's a long thread about it on LHCF, and I think a lot of people caught on to it and ordered it, so Komaza is overwhelmed with everyone's orders. I've been checking regularly to see if it's back in stock, it has to be back SOME day.
I want someone to figure it out for me.LOL I feel like I've been at this for too long. I feel like I've tried everything, and I still have this CensoredCensoredCensoredCensoredCensoredCensoredCensoredCensored breakage.


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Posted By: KinksnWinks
Date Posted: Nov 17 2012 at 10:41pm
Originally posted by PinkIsPowerful PinkIsPowerful wrote:

Yes!  It is amazing how women would spend hundreds when they were wearing relaxers and weaves, but will not spend $60 or $80 on professional natural hair care...  I just don't get our people...Unhappy
 
I wouldn't spend anything over 30 on my hair when I was relaxed, I'm def not gonna do it now, now that I know how to properly take care of my hair so im not willing to spend 60-80 dollars on services that I can do faster and the way I like it...there are other ways to keep money in "our" pocket


Posted By: wanderlust87
Date Posted: Nov 18 2012 at 8:50am
Originally posted by shortnsweet08 shortnsweet08 wrote:

Wanderlust- LOL yes!! But it's been sold out since I don't know how long. It's been about 3 months. There's a long thread about it on LHCF, and I think a lot of people caught on to it and ordered it, so Komaza is overwhelmed with everyone's orders. I've been checking regularly to see if it's back in stock, it has to be back SOME day.
I want someone to figure it out for me.LOL I feel like I've been at this for too long. I feel like I've tried everything, and I still have this CensoredCensoredCensoredCensoredCensoredCensoredCensoredCensored breakage.

I read that LHCF thread because last month you started a thread about the Komaza protein ingredients vs Aphogee's.   The reviews and results were very interesting.  I forgot the analysis service is sold out.

After reading your thread with the protein ingredients & browsing the co website I decided I'll probably buy the Komaza protein once I finish my 2 step.  My hair responds well to hard protein txs. I realize I need to use it more often. 

Do you foresee cutting more hair in the near future?  I hope you find your hair fix/solution.  


Posted By: Butta Cookie
Date Posted: Nov 18 2012 at 9:23am
I still go to my stylist every 2 weeks. She only charges $35 for a wash, deep condition and style. And I'm in and out in about a hour. I haven't dealt with that other mess (folks coming to hang out, her on the phone, etc) since I started going to her. She convinced me to stop getting a relaxer and ever since then my hair has been healthy and long (until I wanted it cut). I love my stylist!

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Posted By: shortnsweet08
Date Posted: Nov 18 2012 at 10:31am
Butta Cookie- Wow!! She sounds like a great find. That's unusual. I guess it just underscores the fact that the level of service and price really depend on the stylist, even though in general its sounding like ppl's experience of natural stylists aren't too good. You just have to find the right one, but that can be hard to do without trial and error, and who wants to go through that? lol. But I'm glad you have someone that works for you. I wish I could try her. Where exactly is Butta's Bakery? lol
 
Wanderlust- awww you know my posts! I'm kinda touched that someone knows me Embarrassed. But yeah, I think the komaza protein treatment is probably stronger, I mean it's nothing but protein!! But I am a little scared. It looks like it may be TOO hardcore for me, since I'm new to experimenting with protein. I'm not sure I really liked the aphogee 2 step though. I'm gonna try it again, and then consider something else if i dont get the desired results. I'm pleased with the komaza products I've tried, the ingredients are great. I just repurchased the califia spray, it's great for moisture and detangling.  As far as cutting more hair, I'll probably have to at some point to get rid of the raggediness. The splits are just eventually gonna break. Right now I'm between installs, but  right now I'm doing braids long term to avoid aggravation by manipulation.


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Posted By: butterfly3582
Date Posted: Nov 19 2012 at 9:25am
Originally posted by RoxieDream RoxieDream wrote:

Oh there are lots of educated hair stylists, at least here in Atlanta. I'd just rather put my $60+ elsewhere than in someone's pockets for doing what I could do.

Besides, I sweat from working out so much that going to the hair salon is pointless.




This is me.  I did consider it when i did my 3rd BC (broke down and relaxed after my baby).  But I agree they are way overpriced.  And im frequently co washing because of working out etc.  I just cant justify it either.



Posted By: Heavy Rotation
Date Posted: Nov 21 2012 at 11:11am
i would go if the salon owner and stylist knew more about hair care than i do...not just more about hair styling.  

once that happens, i might, just might go...especially, if i wanted to flat iron my hair. 

otherwise, no...my twisting technique is far better than most stylists.  and i am 100% happy with the products i use on my hair from the shampoo to the twisting....


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Posted By: PrettyEyez82
Date Posted: Nov 23 2012 at 6:29pm
I would go for a much needed trim or conditioning treatment maybe 2x a year.

Other than that, no. My home is my natural hair salon, and I am the master stylist


Posted By: Elegantmary
Date Posted: Nov 23 2012 at 9:49pm
I also don't go the salon regularly. They often made me disappointed, and I can't get my ideal hairstyle.  Now I just cut my bang myself. Anyone just have some simple ways to care hair...



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