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Topic: A question for my African brothas/sistas
Posted By: *Belle*Femme*
Subject: A question for my African brothas/sistas
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 11:59am
ummmm, im not sure what you want from this thread?

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My mind explodes



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Posted By: Bunnyahh
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 12:03pm
where'd u get that dna test.  I want one for me & dh.  I'd like to see if he's right about his hunch

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Hi BHM!! Lovely day I'm having. How about you?


Posted By: coconess
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 12:03pm
Omg! Ive always wanted to do this..
Where did you get it done?


Posted By: rickysrose
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 12:07pm
bhm would love to solve this mystery for you

post up your pic and the country


Posted By: tatee
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 12:08pm
what are you expecting from them?


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 12:08pm
this thread has potential

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I just can't stand the negro british midget. He brings out the worst in me.....

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I sometimes think AfroK is gay and either doesn't know it or won't admit to it..


Posted By: MizzAmirah
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 12:11pm
Originally posted by *Belle*Femme* *Belle*Femme* wrote:

ummmm, im not sure what you want from this thread?





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Posted By: coconess
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 12:11pm
And what country did they say about you?



Posted By: creole booty
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 12:11pm
Why won't they accept u? Like how? Like family? Because ur American, but more importantly they don't know u and u don't know them. There's no need or u to want their acceptance and ur not entitled to their "acceptance" anyway lol

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i lost all my baby weight: )


Posted By: MizzAmirah
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 12:12pm
Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

this thread has potential


From which angle?Confused


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Posted By: laceyfront
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 12:12pm
Are you really surprised, they have made it clear that they don't want us either.


Posted By: MizzAmirah
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 12:13pm
Originally posted by creole booty creole booty wrote:

Why won't they accept u? Like how? Like family? Because ur American, but more importantly they don't know u and u don't know them. There's no need or u to want their acceptance and ur not entitled to their "acceptance" anyway lol


This....see me see trouble ooh. LOLLOLLOL


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Posted By: mspatty
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 12:13pm
what ethnic group or country did you come up as being closely related to?


Posted By: tatee
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 12:15pm
Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

this thread has potential

i swear yah be putting curses on threads when you say thisLOL


Posted By: blaquefoxx
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 12:19pm
Originally posted by Positive K Positive K wrote:

I had a DNA test earlier this year and it gave me results of the country I'm most genetically similar to in Africa. So, when I'm building with my African brothas and sistas from this specific country and I tell them this they brush me off and say slick ish like "I know what "" look like and you don't look like us" or "yeah yeah that's unlikely". Why won't my brothas and sistas accept me? It's not like I'm trying to front like I'm from the country, just that my ancestors are most likely from this place.
Mannnn I could go inLOL

What part of of the land of Canaan these results said you are fromGeek



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Posted By: EPITOME
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 12:21pm
i thought you were broke. how'd you afford the test?

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I'm from The Wishanicca Woods boo-Dreamz

If you are or have ever been a member of BHM, you are inherently a hoodrat.B


Posted By: noneyons
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 12:21pm
blaque knows. Wink but I'ma sit this out.

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As a species,human beings define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from.
-Agent Smith


Posted By: MizzAmirah
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 12:22pm
Originally posted by EPITOME EPITOME wrote:

i thought you were broke. how'd you afford the test?


LAWD!


Dead





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Posted By: Lite Brite
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 12:26pm
Did they tell you what percentage black you are?


Posted By: blaquefoxx
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 12:28pm
Originally posted by noneyons noneyons wrote:

blaque knows. Wink but I'ma sit this out.
Lol I must admit, I see the bat signal when threads like this pops up.

Sis, pm me when the OP returnsStern Smile



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Posted By: noneyons
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 12:38pm
will do if I'm around if/when he does return.LOL

i don't want no drama so let me preface this by saying i could very well be wrong, but i suspect afro knows the dealio tooGeek been suspecting it for a while. 


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As a species,human beings define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from.
-Agent Smith


Posted By: Naturalchick30
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 12:45pm
LmaoLOL


Posted By: coconess
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 12:47pm
Spill the beans guys


Posted By: rickysrose
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 12:51pm
go 'head and out the OP




Posted By: Alias_Avi
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 12:54pm
slick LOL

Originally posted by rickysrose rickysrose wrote:

bhm would love to solve this mystery for you

post up your pic and the country


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:00pm
I've always wanted to do this. But on the real, and I don't mean to offend, they will never accept you because africans don't see blacks from the diaspora as having anything to do with them. I was married to an african brother for several years and I was never truly accepted, with my haitian dark butt and all.
I was told on several occasions that west indians had no culture of their own


Posted By: mrshairdo
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:02pm
^^thats ice cold

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Y'all should be calling white ppl "Mizungus". Get into the movement!!


Posted By: EPITOME
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:02pm
well many say that about american blacks. 

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I'm from The Wishanicca Woods boo-Dreamz

If you are or have ever been a member of BHM, you are inherently a hoodrat.B


Posted By: mrshairdo
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:03pm
my fam would never say that to an in-law

we call the kids now mixed with jamaican "ugajams" lol it makes them laugh


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Y'all should be calling white ppl "Mizungus". Get into the movement!!


Posted By: babyk94
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:03pm
Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:



I've always wanted to do this. But on the real, and I don't mean to offend, they will never accept you because africans don't see blacks from the diaspora as having anything to do with them. I was married to an african brother for several years and I was never truly accepted, with my haitian dark butt and all.
I was told on several occasions that west indians had no culture of their own
Interesting. I always wanted to find roots aswell.


Posted By: mrshairdo
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:03pm
my fam also loves my jamaican sister in law....shes closer to my aunts and uncles than I am lol shes so engaged with our fam

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Y'all should be calling white ppl "Mizungus". Get into the movement!!


Posted By: noneyons
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:04pm
this is not about outing the OP. its about the distinction between peoples and the secret derivative of the negro.

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As a species,human beings define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from.
-Agent Smith


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:06pm
Originally posted by mrshairdo mrshairdo wrote:

^^thats ice cold
 
It wasn't meant to offend. But as you well know, africans don't even accept each other based on tribal affiliations within the same country. Why the hell would they see a black from the diaspora as one of their own in any way, shape or form? When I say "accept you", I don't mean that they would never like you, befriend you, etc. But start talking about the whole searching for your roots and being panafricanist and all that and they'll laugh in your face. I'm just keeping it real.


Posted By: mrshairdo
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:07pm
when i said ice cold, i meant that was ice cold of him to say that

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Y'all should be calling white ppl "Mizungus". Get into the movement!!


Posted By: Addicted19034
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:08pm
Is OP a man or a woman


Posted By: MizzAmirah
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:09pm
Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by mrshairdo mrshairdo wrote:

^^thats ice cold
 
It wasn't meant to offend. But as you well know, africans don't even accept each other based on tribal affiliations within the same country. Why the hell would they see a black from the diaspora as one of their own in any way, shape or form? When I say "accept you", I don't mean that they would never like you, befriend you, etc. But start talking about the whole searching for your roots and being panafricanist and all that and they'll laugh in your face. I'm just keeping it real.


You do know Africa is a huge continent, right? I'm sorry you felt rejected.


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Posted By: Lite Brite
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:10pm
Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

I've always wanted to do this. But on the real, and I don't mean to offend, they will never accept you because africans don't see blacks from the diaspora as having anything to do with them. I was married to an african brother for several years and I was never truly accepted, with my haitian dark butt and all.
I was told on several occasions that west indians had no culture of their own


Can I ask where in Africa he was from?

My friend's Nigerian family seems to hate me. His dad will not look at me even when I'm standing directly in front of him. It's so uncomfortable/funny.

However, my other friend's Kenyan family accepted me in with open arms and his mother was introducing me as her son's sister to her family.

Of course this is just from my little experience, but was just wondering about yours


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:11pm
Originally posted by mrshairdo mrshairdo wrote:

when i said ice cold, i meant that was ice cold of him to say that
 
It wasn't him saying it, though. If it were, the attraction would not have been there. It was members of his family, friends I even got that from random african students when I was in college...


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:12pm
Originally posted by Lite Brite Lite Brite wrote:

Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

I've always wanted to do this. But on the real, and I don't mean to offend, they will never accept you because africans don't see blacks from the diaspora as having anything to do with them. I was married to an african brother for several years and I was never truly accepted, with my haitian dark butt and all.
I was told on several occasions that west indians had no culture of their own


Can I ask where in Africa he was from?

My friend's Nigerian family seems to hate me. His dad will not look at me even when I'm standing directly in front of him. It's so uncomfortable/funny.

However, my other friend's Kenyan family accepted me in with open arms and his mother was introducing me as her son's sister to her family.

Of course this is just from my little experience, but was just wondering about yours
 
He was from the Congo (ex Zaire). My cousin is married to a Kenyan right now and they have a child together. She's having problems with the family too, although her marriage seems allright


Posted By: mrshairdo
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:12pm
i've had a different experience with my fam, we are not as militant, even the ones back home

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Y'all should be calling white ppl "Mizungus". Get into the movement!!


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:13pm
Originally posted by MizzAmirah MizzAmirah wrote:

Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by mrshairdo mrshairdo wrote:

^^thats ice cold
 
It wasn't meant to offend. But as you well know, africans don't even accept each other based on tribal affiliations within the same country. Why the hell would they see a black from the diaspora as one of their own in any way, shape or form? When I say "accept you", I don't mean that they would never like you, befriend you, etc. But start talking about the whole searching for your roots and being panafricanist and all that and they'll laugh in your face. I'm just keeping it real.


You do know Africa is a huge continent, right? I'm sorry you felt rejected.
 
I'm speaking from my own personal experience. Like I said, I did not mean to offend, I was just being honest about what I felt. and yes, I do know that Africa is a big continent, I've been there.


Posted By: mspatty
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:13pm
Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by mrshairdo mrshairdo wrote:

^^thats ice cold
 
It wasn't meant to offend. But as you well know, africans don't even accept each other based on tribal affiliations within the same country. Why the hell would they see a black from the diaspora as one of their own in any way, shape or form? When I say "accept you", I don't mean that they would never like you, befriend you, etc. But start talking about the whole searching for your roots and being panafricanist and all that and they'll laugh in your face. I'm just keeping it real.
 
maybe it's the africans you met or were involved with. I know plenty of Africans including me who accept other blacks as their own.
 
Africans in Africa looove them some jamaicans.everything about jamaica.


Posted By: EPITOME
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:16pm
Originally posted by Positive K Positive K wrote:

The DNA results said I'm most genetically similar to Nigerians. 


yeah i figured that is what it would say. don't they tell everyone that?

i figure i am most similar to ppl from Guinea. that's where they say Haitians are from and i think many ppl from Guinea acknowledge that "Fact"


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I'm from The Wishanicca Woods boo-Dreamz

If you are or have ever been a member of BHM, you are inherently a hoodrat.B


Posted By: *Belle*Femme*
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:17pm
Originally posted by Positive K Positive K wrote:

The DNA results said I'm most genetically similar to Nigerians. 
I swear I knew you were going to say that or Cameroon for some reason.

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Posted By: Lite Brite
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:17pm
you look Yoruba PK


Posted By: coconess
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:18pm
Africans come up to me and ask me where I'm from. Like really foreign born Africans...
I get Nigeria and Ghana the most. I really need to find out.
Share where you had it done op


Posted By: Flowing-Ice
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:18pm
what's wrong with someone saying i will not accept you as african? is that offensive or something?
does being an in-law make you part of the culture?


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Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:19pm
im slowly starting to lol at this thread

if anything shad, you look more ghanaian than anything else

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I just can't stand the negro british midget. He brings out the worst in me.....

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I sometimes think AfroK is gay and either doesn't know it or won't admit to it..


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:19pm
Originally posted by mspatty mspatty wrote:

Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by mrshairdo mrshairdo wrote:

^^thats ice cold
 
It wasn't meant to offend. But as you well know, africans don't even accept each other based on tribal affiliations within the same country. Why the hell would they see a black from the diaspora as one of their own in any way, shape or form? When I say "accept you", I don't mean that they would never like you, befriend you, etc. But start talking about the whole searching for your roots and being panafricanist and all that and they'll laugh in your face. I'm just keeping it real.
 
maybe it's the africans you met or were involved with. I know plenty of Africans including me who accept other blacks as their own.
 
Africans in Africa looove them some jamaicans.everything about jamaica.
 
Like I said, my own personal experience. I've been around a lot of africans and still am. I'm just saying that the ones I've encountered do not see blacks from the diaspora as fully whole. They always have a smirk when I try to claim my africanness. I've learned not to do that anymore.
 
My marriage was another story, they were straight up hostile except for a few (wonderful with the white wives, though). But that's a different realm altogether


Posted By: Flowing-Ice
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:21pm
Originally posted by EPITOME EPITOME wrote:

Originally posted by Positive K Positive K wrote:

The DNA results said I'm most genetically similar to Nigerians. 


yeah i figured that is what it would say. don't they tell everyone that?

i figure i am most similar to ppl from Guinea. that's where they say Haitians are from and i think many ppl from Guinea acknowledge that "Fact"

oh wow. i never knew that. cool.
Thumbs Up


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And Jean Paul Gaultier and a Hermes bag and four inch tips made of ostrich ;Sharp enough to slit your wrists her lips spread gossip ;Won't say sorry when she offends


Posted By: mrshairdo
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:22pm
tbh i thought this was more about accepting them into the family, not as african

jolie, please clarify?


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Y'all should be calling white ppl "Mizungus". Get into the movement!!


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:22pm
Originally posted by Flowing-Ice Flowing-Ice wrote:

what's wrong with someone saying i will not accept you as african? is that offensive or something?
does being an in-law make you part of the culture?
 
Did I say that was offensive? I was just explaining my perception of why he is not likely to be accepted when claiming his "africannness" or "blackness" As if my black skin originated in Korea.
 
My marriage is another story altogether. They were just plain hostile and meddling.


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:25pm
Originally posted by mrshairdo mrshairdo wrote:

tbh i thought this was more about accepting them into the family, not as african

jolie, please clarify?
 
My marriage: Not accepted into the family
Some acquaintances: Don't make any reference to having African in you, because west indians are just lost slave souls with no culture but the white man's. Impersonating in black face.
Friends: They're cool and they like me. They just laugh at my "militant streak". they think it's kinda ridiculous but endearing


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:25pm
Originally posted by Positive K Positive K wrote:


Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

im slowly starting to lol at this thread

if anything shad, you look more ghanaian than anything else


I look Brazilian too apparently lol. The thing is black Americans are most likely made up of different types of African people, not just one country. But I guess on these tests they just compare your DNA to specific countries and whatever comes up closest is it. I don't believe they can trace exactly what tribe you come from.
yeah i dont think thats possible tbh

they might just circle down a region and thats about it.

narrowing down to a tribe is damn near impossible

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I just can't stand the negro british midget. He brings out the worst in me.....

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I sometimes think AfroK is gay and either doesn't know it or won't admit to it..


Posted By: 313chick
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:26pm
I have Nigerian/Igbo cousins with white girlfriends... and we don't judge them. 

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Posted By: Flowing-Ice
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:26pm
Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by Flowing-Ice Flowing-Ice wrote:

what's wrong with someone saying i will not accept you as african? is that offensive or something?
does being an in-law make you part of the culture?
 
Did I say that was offensive? I was just explaining my perception of why he is not likely to be accepted when claiming his "africannness" or "blackness" As if my black skin originated in Korea.
 
My marriage is another story altogether. They were just plain hostile and meddling.

nah. i wasn't talking about you. Smile
i was referring to your experience to pose a question. because i don't see what they did as particularly hostile or anything. 

... but i'm sure you have some stories. LOL


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And Jean Paul Gaultier and a Hermes bag and four inch tips made of ostrich ;Sharp enough to slit your wrists her lips spread gossip ;Won't say sorry when she offends


Posted By: mrshairdo
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:27pm
Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by mrshairdo mrshairdo wrote:

tbh i thought this was more about accepting them into the family, not as african

jolie, please clarify?
 
My marriage: Not accepted into the family
Some acquaintances: Don't make any reference to having African in you, because west indians are just lost slave souls with no culture but the white man's. Impersonating in black face.
Friends: They're cool and they like me. They just laugh at my "militant streak". they think it's kinda ridiculous but endearing

oh ok that's what i thought lol ok so im commenting on the not accepting into the family bit


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Y'all should be calling white ppl "Mizungus". Get into the movement!!


Posted By: MizzAmirah
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:28pm
Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by MizzAmirah MizzAmirah wrote:

Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by mrshairdo mrshairdo wrote:

^^thats ice cold
 
It wasn't meant to offend. But as you well know, africans don't even accept each other based on tribal affiliations within the same country. Why the hell would they see a black from the diaspora as one of their own in any way, shape or form? When I say "accept you", I don't mean that they would never like you, befriend you, etc. But start talking about the whole searching for your roots and being panafricanist and all that and they'll laugh in your face. I'm just keeping it real.


You do know Africa is a huge continent, right? I'm sorry you felt rejected.
 
I'm speaking from my own personal experience. Like I said, I did not mean to offend, I was just being honest about what I felt. and yes, I do know that Africa is a big continent, I've been there.


I have no reason to be offended. You know Africa is a big continent b/c you've been there. (Obviously not the entire continent). But from your own experience, during your soul-searching, did AfricanSSS really laugh in your face? (This is in light of your "just keeping it real"). I think you can see the point I'm trying to make here. Marriage is a delicate matter, and from the way your responses were, it seems it did not turn out the way you would have liked and felt very un-welcomed, bringing much bias and strong feelings to your response. Like I said, I'm sorry you felt regected. This can happen in ANY marriage, even within the same ethnic groups, so don't feel you and your "fellow diasporians" have been singled out by "Africans." But to each their own. My job is not to change anyone's opinions, but to also be a little logical when we over-generalize so we can see other potential POV.
I being a Nigerian-American and many others I know welcome all blacks world wide as long as you have similar values to me. For AA, some want to be associated with Africa (welcome!), and some strongly feel they aint African (for whatever reason..."fine! KIM". Life aint about hunting people down and initiating them into "your culture".

To derail no further from the OP, Positive K, folks are still waiting for your response so your African bros/sis can help you.



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Posted By: Lite Brite
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:28pm
Yorubas have some fine  men


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:29pm
Originally posted by Flowing-Ice Flowing-Ice wrote:

Originally posted by EPITOME EPITOME wrote:

Originally posted by Positive K Positive K wrote:

The DNA results said I'm most genetically similar to Nigerians. 


yeah i figured that is what it would say. don't they tell everyone that?

i figure i am most similar to ppl from Guinea. that's where they say Haitians are from and i think many ppl from Guinea acknowledge that "Fact"

oh wow. i never knew that. cool.
Thumbs Up
 
A lot of haitians came from Benin as well. But like every other island, we have a mix of african origins


Posted By: Flowing-Ice
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:30pm
IA w/ Mz Amirah. it can happen in any culture. 
but it sounds like the norm in most cultures, especially those that hold their culture extremely dear to their identities. 


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And Jean Paul Gaultier and a Hermes bag and four inch tips made of ostrich ;Sharp enough to slit your wrists her lips spread gossip ;Won't say sorry when she offends


Posted By: Bunnyahh
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:32pm
Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

im slowly starting to lol at this thread

if anything shad, you look more ghanaian than anything else
The one ghanaian I knew did not look good at allOuch

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Hi BHM!! Lovely day I'm having. How about you?


Posted By: Flowing-Ice
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:33pm
JP, i really assumed that most haitians were an ecclectic mix of the slaves from different countries and ethnic groups. and then depending on the amount of western influence in the geography, european ancestry. 

i didn't really know we were closely related to any one country. but that is cool to know. 


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And Jean Paul Gaultier and a Hermes bag and four inch tips made of ostrich ;Sharp enough to slit your wrists her lips spread gossip ;Won't say sorry when she offends


Posted By: MizzAmirah
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:37pm
Originally posted by EPITOME EPITOME wrote:

Originally posted by Positive K Positive K wrote:

The DNA results said I'm most genetically similar to Nigerians. 


yeah i figured that is what it would say. don't they tell everyone that?

i figure i am most similar to ppl from Guinea. that's where they say Haitians are from and i think many ppl from Guinea acknowledge that "Fact"


I've read somewhere a long time ago that:
Haitians are mainly Yoruba Nigerians.
Jamaicans are mainly a mix of Nigerian and Ghanaian.
Bajans are mainly Igbo Nigerians (or at least Nigerians).
Brazilian black are mainly Yoruba Nigerians.


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Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:37pm
Originally posted by MizzAmirah MizzAmirah wrote:

Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by MizzAmirah MizzAmirah wrote:

Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by mrshairdo mrshairdo wrote:

^^thats ice cold
 
It wasn't meant to offend. But as you well know, africans don't even accept each other based on tribal affiliations within the same country. Why the hell would they see a black from the diaspora as one of their own in any way, shape or form? When I say "accept you", I don't mean that they would never like you, befriend you, etc. But start talking about the whole searching for your roots and being panafricanist and all that and they'll laugh in your face. I'm just keeping it real.


You do know Africa is a huge continent, right? I'm sorry you felt rejected.
 
I'm speaking from my own personal experience. Like I said, I did not mean to offend, I was just being honest about what I felt. and yes, I do know that Africa is a big continent, I've been there.


I have no reason to be offended. You know Africa is a big continent b/c you've been there. (Obviously not the entire continent). But from your own experience, during your soul-searching, did AfricanSSS really laugh in your face? (This is in light of your "just keeping it real"). I think you can see the point I'm trying to make here. Marriage is a delicate matter, and from the way your responses were, it seems it did not turn out the way you would have liked and felt very un-welcomed, bringing much bias and strong feelings to your response. Like I said, I'm sorry you felt regected. This can happen in ANY marriage, even within the same ethnic groups, so don't feel you and your "fellow diasporians" have been singled out by "Africans." But to each their own. My job is not to change anyone's opinions, but to also be a little logical when we over-generalize so we can see other potential POV.
I being a Nigerian-American and many others I know welcome all blacks world wide as long as you have similar values to me. For AA, some want to be associated with African (welcome!), and some strongly feel they aint African (for whatever reason..."fine! KIM". Life aint about hunting people down and initiating them into "your culture".

To derail no further from the OP, Positive K, folks are still waiting for your response so your African bros/sis can help you.

 
Mizz Amirah, I've already stated that I've had different experiences with Africans, some good, some not so good. My marriage is in the not so good category and i've stated that it's in a different realm because it was a marriage.
 
 My friendships, on the other end, are solid. What I'm trying to say is that, FROM MY EXPERIENCE, when I expressed panafricanist, negritude views, even my friends had a tendency to smirk, like I was getting my references from Eddie Murphy's movie, like I was on some imaginary King of Zamunda shyt, LOL. There is a bit of an attitude that caribbean culture is nothing but slavery.
Also, I should stress that most of the Africans I came in contact with are from French-speaking countries. I'm sure that makes a difference, mentality wise


Posted By: *Belle*Femme*
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:38pm
Originally posted by Lite Brite Lite Brite wrote:

Yorubas have some fine  men
Meh. I find handsome nigerian far and few in between. However, Men from Cameroon as really fine and Ivory Coast and Ethiopia.

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Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:39pm
ON a side note, whenever my ex watched television and heard the expression "African-American", it amused him to no end. It kind of annoyed me and amused me at the same time


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:41pm
Originally posted by Flowing-Ice Flowing-Ice wrote:

JP, i really assumed that most haitians were an ecclectic mix of the slaves from different countries and ethnic groups. and then depending on the amount of western influence in the geography, european ancestry. 

i didn't really know we were closely related to any one country. but that is cool to know. 
 
Yes, for the most part, you are right!!! I'm just saying that from some of the specific countries that they have been able to pinpoint with accuracy, Guinea and Benin often comes up.


Posted By: 313chick
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:42pm
These threads addressing Africans always do numbers lol...

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Posted By: coconess
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:43pm
Eithopian? Interesting.. I can't remember any attractive Ethiopian men.

I think Eritrean girls are sometimes really pretty. I knew these 3 girls that were gorgeous


Posted By: femmemichelle
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:44pm
They're stupid. Tell them to get over it..


Posted By: EPITOME
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:47pm
Neva seen an Ethiopian man I thought was good looking and there are a gazillion around here.

Flow and Jp: yes Benin and Guinea. There couldn't have been too much variety of Africans because then the revolution wouldn't have worked as well IMO. It would have been too many different peoples and languages.

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Posted By: MizzAmirah
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:50pm
Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by MizzAmirah MizzAmirah wrote:

Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by MizzAmirah MizzAmirah wrote:

Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by mrshairdo mrshairdo wrote:

^^thats ice cold
 
It wasn't meant to offend. But as you well know, africans don't even accept each other based on tribal affiliations within the same country. Why the hell would they see a black from the diaspora as one of their own in any way, shape or form? When I say "accept you", I don't mean that they would never like you, befriend you, etc. But start talking about the whole searching for your roots and being panafricanist and all that and they'll laugh in your face. I'm just keeping it real.


You do know Africa is a huge continent, right? I'm sorry you felt rejected.
 
I'm speaking from my own personal experience. Like I said, I did not mean to offend, I was just being honest about what I felt. and yes, I do know that Africa is a big continent, I've been there.


I have no reason to be offended. You know Africa is a big continent b/c you've been there. (Obviously not the entire continent). But from your own experience, during your soul-searching, did AfricanSSS really laugh in your face? (This is in light of your "just keeping it real"). I think you can see the point I'm trying to make here. Marriage is a delicate matter, and from the way your responses were, it seems it did not turn out the way you would have liked and felt very un-welcomed, bringing much bias and strong feelings to your response. Like I said, I'm sorry you felt regected. This can happen in ANY marriage, even within the same ethnic groups, so don't feel you and your "fellow diasporians" have been singled out by "Africans." But to each their own. My job is not to change anyone's opinions, but to also be a little logical when we over-generalize so we can see other potential POV.
I being a Nigerian-American and many others I know welcome all blacks world wide as long as you have similar values to me. For AA, some want to be associated with African (welcome!), and some strongly feel they aint African (for whatever reason..."fine! KIM". Life aint about hunting people down and initiating them into "your culture".

To derail no further from the OP, Positive K, folks are still waiting for your response so your African bros/sis can help you.

 
Mizz Amirah, I've already stated that I've had different experiences with Africans, some good, some not so good. My marriage is in the not so good category and i've stated that it's in a different realm because it was a marriage.
 
 My friendships, on the other end, are solid. What I'm trying to say is that, FROM MY EXPERIENCE, when I expressed panafricanist, negritude views, even my friends had a tendency to smirk, like I was getting my references from Eddie Murphy's movie, like I was on some imaginary King of Zamunda shyt, LOL. There is a bit of an attitude that caribbean culture is nothing but slavery.
Also, I should stress that most of the Africans I came in contact with are from French-speaking countries. I'm sure that makes a difference, mentality wise


As far as people "getting in touch with their roots". I have met some people who every second wanted to discuss Africa with me, talking about slavery, natural hair, culture, and what not. Yeah, I appreciate the enthusiasm but I'm sure you can see how that be get very annoying and very quick. Like I'm supposed to be some kinda African roots ambassador JUST because I'm African. Like I don't have anything else I'd like to discuss. Yes, I'm Nigerian-American..........don't neglect the American either. I dont always wanna be talking about Africa, shea butter, and natural diets. Ironically (back-tracking) I've found that the Africans I know view Caribbean blacks as "more African" in heritage and behavior than any other group of blacks. Which aint far from the truth (I went in detail in another thread earlier this year of the examples), but in short, our music is very similar, foods are too, and even accents to an extent (for some W. African anglophone countries).


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Posted By: *Belle*Femme*
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:51pm
yeah there are a lot in D.C. but trust me there are a lot of them im NY that are fine fine fine.

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Posted By: Lite Brite
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:53pm
Originally posted by coconess coconess wrote:

Eithopian? Interesting.. I can't remember any attractive Ethiopian men.

I think Eritrean girls are sometimes really pretty. I knew these 3 girls that were gorgeous


agreed


Posted By: petiteone29
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:55pm
Originally posted by rickysrose rickysrose wrote:

bhm would love to solve this mystery for you

post up your pic and the country


   oh ricky


Posted By: MizzAmirah
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:56pm
Originally posted by EPITOME EPITOME wrote:

Neva seen an Ethiopian man I thought was good looking and there are a gazillion around here.

Flow and Jp: yes Benin and Guinea. There couldn't have been too much variety of Africans because then the revolution wouldn't have worked as well IMO. It would have been too many different peoples and languages.


For MOST nationalities, I've noticed that they're about the same amount of exceptional beauties, average beauties and in betweens, as well as uglies (or unattractives)........And I mean world wide. In MY opinion though, there are few excepts which I find a higher number of unattractive, attractive, and average looking people. This, I'll keep to myself. At least for now. 
LOL


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Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 1:57pm
Originally posted by MizzAmirah MizzAmirah wrote:

Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by MizzAmirah MizzAmirah wrote:

Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by MizzAmirah MizzAmirah wrote:

Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by mrshairdo mrshairdo wrote:

^^thats ice cold
 
It wasn't meant to offend. But as you well know, africans don't even accept each other based on tribal affiliations within the same country. Why the hell would they see a black from the diaspora as one of their own in any way, shape or form? When I say "accept you", I don't mean that they would never like you, befriend you, etc. But start talking about the whole searching for your roots and being panafricanist and all that and they'll laugh in your face. I'm just keeping it real.


You do know Africa is a huge continent, right? I'm sorry you felt rejected.
 
I'm speaking from my own personal experience. Like I said, I did not mean to offend, I was just being honest about what I felt. and yes, I do know that Africa is a big continent, I've been there.


I have no reason to be offended. You know Africa is a big continent b/c you've been there. (Obviously not the entire continent). But from your own experience, during your soul-searching, did AfricanSSS really laugh in your face? (This is in light of your "just keeping it real"). I think you can see the point I'm trying to make here. Marriage is a delicate matter, and from the way your responses were, it seems it did not turn out the way you would have liked and felt very un-welcomed, bringing much bias and strong feelings to your response. Like I said, I'm sorry you felt regected. This can happen in ANY marriage, even within the same ethnic groups, so don't feel you and your "fellow diasporians" have been singled out by "Africans." But to each their own. My job is not to change anyone's opinions, but to also be a little logical when we over-generalize so we can see other potential POV.
I being a Nigerian-American and many others I know welcome all blacks world wide as long as you have similar values to me. For AA, some want to be associated with African (welcome!), and some strongly feel they aint African (for whatever reason..."fine! KIM". Life aint about hunting people down and initiating them into "your culture".

To derail no further from the OP, Positive K, folks are still waiting for your response so your African bros/sis can help you.

 
Mizz Amirah, I've already stated that I've had different experiences with Africans, some good, some not so good. My marriage is in the not so good category and i've stated that it's in a different realm because it was a marriage.
 
 My friendships, on the other end, are solid. What I'm trying to say is that, FROM MY EXPERIENCE, when I expressed panafricanist, negritude views, even my friends had a tendency to smirk, like I was getting my references from Eddie Murphy's movie, like I was on some imaginary King of Zamunda shyt, LOL. There is a bit of an attitude that caribbean culture is nothing but slavery.
Also, I should stress that most of the Africans I came in contact with are from French-speaking countries. I'm sure that makes a difference, mentality wise


As far as people "getting in touch with their roots". I have met some people who every second wanted to discuss Africa with me, talking about slavery, natural hair, culture, and what not. Yeah, I appreciate the enthusiasm but I'm sure you can see how that be get very annoying and very quick. Like I'm supposed to be some kinda African roots ambassador JUST because I'm African. Like I don't have anything else I'd like to discuss. Yes, I'm Nigerian-American..........don't neglect the American either. I dont always wanna be talking about Africa, shea butter, and natural diets. Ironically (back-tracking) I've found that the Africans I know view Caribbean blacks as "more African" in heritage and behavior than any other group of blacks. Which aint far from the truth (I went in detail in another thread earlier this year of the examples), but in short, our music is very similar, foods are too, and even accents to an extent (for some W. African anglophone countries).
 
LOL, that wasn't me. I can definitely see how annoying that would be. And besides, I'm very proud of my west indian culture. It's just that I've had an interest in worldwide black history since I was a teenager. So when the subject does come up, for whatever reason, I get the smirks. It's not necessarily mean or anything but I read between the lines. If you travel to Africa (some parts of) and want to somewhat connect with your roots, you can get an amused reaction. It's like, give me the cash already, you white woman in blackface, lol.


Posted By: Lilaca
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 2:00pm
in before the 10 pager

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Posted By: EPITOME
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 2:10pm
Originally posted by *Belle*Femme* *Belle*Femme* wrote:



yeah there are a lot in D.C. but trust me there are a lot of them im NY that are fine fine fine.


Yeah. Not my type. Think their features translate better in women.

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If you are or have ever been a member of BHM, you are inherently a hoodrat.B


Posted By: petiteone29
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 2:45pm
Originally posted by coconess coconess wrote:

Africans come up to me and ask me where I'm from. Like really foreign born Africans...
I get Nigeria and Ghana the most. I really need to find out.
Share where you had it done op


african people have been asking me if im african alot too.. it just started about a year ago. im curious to know now


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 2:46pm
Originally posted by petiteone29 petiteone29 wrote:

Originally posted by coconess coconess wrote:

Africans come up to me and ask me where I'm from. Like really foreign born Africans...
I get Nigeria and Ghana the most. I really need to find out.
Share where you had it done op


african people have been asking me if im african alot too.. it just started about a year ago. im curious to know now
 
I get this all the time too. People have assumed I was from cameroun, the ivory coast, the congo, and many more


Posted By: Sang Froid
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 2:49pm
We are all African.


Posted By: blaquefoxx
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 2:58pm
LOL

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Posted By: purple.chuckz
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 3:08pm
Jolie, sango nini?

Was your husband/Congolese ex from the Luba tribe? When it comes to tribalism they do not play.
A Luba will only marry another Luba (or a white person). 

edited to add: I know a few who were married to people from other tribes, and left their spouses to get with their fellow Luba. It was messy. You couldn't have parties or gatherings for fear  of all the ensuing drama. 


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Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 3:18pm
Originally posted by purple.chuckz purple.chuckz wrote:

Jolie, sango nini?

Was your husband/Congolese ex from the Luba tribe? When it comes to tribalism they do not play.
A Luba will only marry another Luba (or a white person). 

edited to add: I know a few who were married to people from other tribes, and left their spouses to get with their fellow Luba. It was messy. You couldn't have parties or gatherings for fear  of all the ensuing drama. 
No, he wasn't Luba. Same tribe as Mobutu. The thing is, they were really nice to the white wives in their family but not to me. I guess they just didn't like me. And when the family doesn't like you, it's a difficult situation. I felt he didn't stick up for me like a husband shoud support his wife. Not that I expected him to divorce his family, but at least make it clear that I'm his wife and that I'm to be respected. Anyway, it's ancient history


Posted By: Gkisses
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 3:28pm
OP...You paid $300 for that service....As much as Ive looked into doing something like that... i want to know how legit it is before giving them 300 dollars worth of dollars.
How did you learn about them?


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Posted By: Naturalchick30
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 3:36pm
Originally posted by Positive K Positive K wrote:

Originally posted by purple.chuckz purple.chuckz wrote:

Jolie, sango nini?

Was your husband/Congolese ex from the Luba tribe? When it comes to tribalism they do not play.
A Luba will only marry another Luba (or a white person). 



lol Some Africans be cold blooded on the relationship tip. I remember I was talking to this one African girl and I was like we need to get together and build, have beautiful black babies and she was like she could only marry someone from her culture so I was like cool. But then a couple months later I saw her out with this pale ass white dude and I approached her like "What is this"and she was like "Nicca geet dee fucc away from me, I don't wont yow black ass"
 
LmaoLOLCry


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 3:39pm
so shad, whats so important about acceptance?

what would you lik to achieve in the long run

and if you were talking to some naija dudes the i can say im not surprised at the 'eff that homie you arent one of us' you received


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I just can't stand the negro british midget. He brings out the worst in me.....

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I sometimes think AfroK is gay and either doesn't know it or won't admit to it..


Posted By: purple.chuckz
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 3:41pm
Oh, he was  Ngala/Ngbande.  

Well, I give you a big Hug It's his loss. 

My co-worker married an African-American and her parents invited her ex Nigerian BF to their engagement party. Talk about awkward. 




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Posted By: purple.chuckz
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 3:43pm
Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

so shad, whats so important about acceptance?

what would you lik to achieve in the long run

and if you were talking to some naija dudes the i can say im not surprised at the 'eff that homie you arent one of us' you received

How did you approach them? Where you friends acquaintances before or did you just roll up dressed like




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Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 3:44pm
Originally posted by purple.chuckz purple.chuckz wrote:

Oh, he was  Ngala/Ngbande.  

Well, I give you a big Hug It's his loss. 

My co-worker married an African-American and her parents invited her ex Nigerian BF to their engagement party. Talk about awkward. 


 
OMG!!! I can totally picture that, LOL. Actually I shouldn't laugh, but I can see this happening


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 3:46pm
none african black cultures cant even get along within themselves and yet they expect africans to embrace them once they yell 'uhuru' or some sh*t like that..

its kinda patronising

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I just can't stand the negro british midget. He brings out the worst in me.....

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I sometimes think AfroK is gay and either doesn't know it or won't admit to it..


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 3:49pm
and all african cultures, nationalities and ethnicities within the same country can get along with each other???? Like this is specific to non african blacks? Pleaaaaase...
How is it patronizing to want to know who your ancestors where? Never mind, don't answer. I don't feel like engaging you.


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 3:53pm
Originally posted by purple.chuckz purple.chuckz wrote:


Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

so shad, whats so important about acceptance?

what would you lik to achieve in the long run

and if you were talking to some naija dudes the i can say im not surprised at the 'eff that homie you arent one of us' you received


How did you approach them? Where you friends acquaintances before or did you just roll up dressed like






thats funny

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I just can't stand the negro british midget. He brings out the worst in me.....

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I sometimes think AfroK is gay and either doesn't know it or won't admit to it..


Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 3:55pm
Originally posted by Bunnyahh Bunnyahh wrote:

Originally posted by afrokock afrokock wrote:

im slowly starting to lol at this thread

if anything shad, you look more ghanaian than anything else
The one ghanaian I knew did not look good at allOuch
that bad huh?

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I just can't stand the negro british midget. He brings out the worst in me.....

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I sometimes think AfroK is gay and either doesn't know it or won't admit to it..


Posted By: JoliePoufiasse
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 3:58pm
Originally posted by purple.chuckz purple.chuckz wrote:

Oh, he was  Ngala/Ngbande.  

Well, I give you a big Hug It's his loss. 

My co-worker married an African-American and her parents invited her ex Nigerian BF to their engagement party. Talk about awkward. 


 
Purple, what's your ethnicity?


Posted By: blaquefoxx
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 4:01pm
Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

and all african cultures, nationalities and ethnicities within the same country can get along with each other???? Like this is specific to non african blacks? Pleaaaaase...
How is it patronizing to want to know who your ancestors where? Never mind, don't answer. I don't feel like engaging you.
Lamp

I asked the same thingLOL

Like that ish don't even make a lick of sense.

And I'm speaking as someone who already knows that I don't originate from Ham...

Smh



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Posted By: purple.chuckz
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 4:04pm
Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by purple.chuckz purple.chuckz wrote:

Oh, he was  Ngala/Ngbande.  

Well, I give you a big Hug It's his loss. 

My co-worker married an African-American and her parents invited her ex Nigerian BF to their engagement party. Talk about awkward. 


 
Purple, what's your ethnicity?

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Posted By: afrokock
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 4:06pm
Originally posted by blaquefoxx blaquefoxx wrote:


Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:





and all african cultures, nationalities and ethnicities within the same country can get along with each other???? Like this is specific to non african blacks? Pleaaaaase...
How is it patronizing to want to know who your ancestors where? Never mind, don't answer. I don't feel like engaging you.


Lamp

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">I asked the same thingLOL

Like that ish don't even make a lick of sense.

And I'm speaking as someone who already knows that I don't originate from Ham...

Smh

no one said wanting to know where your ancestors come from is a problem, shad already did that by going for his dna test,

assuming that using a couple of catchphrases here and changing dress code there will get people to accept him or her is whats patronising and makes most africans kinda turn up their noses in that ' oh so you know one or two words and sport a dashiki, you african now' manner (eta: this is in a broad sense and not pertaining to shad alone)

its like saying, an african wearing timbaland boots and basketball tops and yelling yo' makes him AA

it doesnt work like that.



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I just can't stand the negro british midget. He brings out the worst in me.....

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I sometimes think AfroK is gay and either doesn't know it or won't admit to it..



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