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Topic: Behind the hairline advice/methods/tips
Posted By: Wisney
Subject: Behind the hairline advice/methods/tips
Date Posted: Nov 05 2012 at 7:33am
Ok, so it's been a while since I posted on this forum, but I'm back to ask some questions and hopefully get some good responses.

A while ago I posted some info about me and my hair in a thread on the forum. Basically, I'm mixed race and used to have long curly hair which would look really nice when it was styled or straightened, but would turn into a sweaty mess whenever I went on a night out; this defeated the purpose of having it, as that's the time I wanted it to look it's best! So I shaved it all off as I couldn't be bothered with it, and now two years later, I want to grow it again as I miss it so much!

I've been doing research on how to take better care of curly, mixed hair and what ranges of products to use and how to use them, so I'm hoping to have an easier time managing it this time, BUT there's still the issue of keeping it nice when I go out. That's why I've decided that wearing a lace wig behind my hairline that mimics my natural hair (curly or straightened) may be an excellent idea for when I go out and want my hair to still look nice. 

I've done some searching on this forum but haven't found much on behind the hairline apps, only a few posts. How many of you on here wear your lace fronts behind your natural hairline and what advice can you give to someone who wants to start? Any info/pics/tips you guys can give would be super appreciated. I hope to get some good responses! xxxxx



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Posted By: corenybay
Date Posted: Nov 05 2012 at 9:02am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmCyrjFMh5A&feature=channel&list=UL


That is a really good video I think. :]

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Posted By: Wisney
Date Posted: Nov 05 2012 at 9:05am
I've seen this video, I really like her way of doing it, it looks very natural on her


Posted By: corenybay
Date Posted: Nov 05 2012 at 9:08am
Yeah I'm hoping to do it today. Hope it turns out good. :]
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Posted By: Missvw
Date Posted: Nov 05 2012 at 9:18am
You still haven't purchased a unit yet Wisney?


Posted By: Posh Ams
Date Posted: Nov 05 2012 at 10:14am
Lol Miss VW!
Cmon now Wisney- push the button!


Posted By: Blossom8186
Date Posted: Nov 06 2012 at 3:59am
Lol yes,please push the button!

But to answer your question, a really good way is to use the Tootsie method.      All you'd have to do is part however you want and place the unit behind. Simple, easy, takes 5 minutes or less.

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Posted By: cosmogirl
Date Posted: Nov 06 2012 at 3:42pm
Originally posted by Wisney Wisney wrote:

Ok, so it's been a while since I posted on this forum, but I'm back to ask some questions and hopefully get some good responses.

A while ago I posted some info about me and my hair in a thread on the forum. Basically, I'm mixed race and used to have long curly hair which would look really nice when it was styled or straightened, but would turn into a sweaty mess whenever I went on a night out; this defeated the purpose of having it, as that's the time I wanted it to look it's best! So I shaved it all off as I couldn't be bothered with it, and now two years later, I want to grow it again as I miss it so much!

I've been doing research on how to take better care of curly, mixed hair and what ranges of products to use and how to use them, so I'm hoping to have an easier time managing it this time, BUT there's still the issue of keeping it nice when I go out. That's why I've decided that wearing a lace wig behind my hairline that mimics my natural hair (curly or straightened) may be an excellent idea for when I go out and want my hair to still look nice. 

I've done some searching on this forum but haven't found much on behind the hairline apps, only a few posts. How many of you on here wear your lace fronts behind your natural hairline and what advice can you give to someone who wants to start? Any info/pics/tips you guys can give would be super appreciated. I hope to get some good responses! xxxxx

I know your interested in lace wigs but have you ever thought of a U Part wig?


Posted By: Wisney
Date Posted: Nov 07 2012 at 3:28am
Originally posted by Missvw Missvw wrote:

You still haven't purchased a unit yet Wisney?

Lollll, no i haven't, I know, it's been a long time! Half of it is money, i really am on the breadline, and then the other half is that I realised that I would always be paranoid that my hairline looks suspect and I'm quite a paranoid person anyway, so I would never be able to relax.

I decided last week I was just going to grow my hair back and I thought that if I was able to use my own hairline, I'd feel way better about having a wig on. And I liked my hair a lot anyway, the reason I cut it really was because it would never stay nice whenever I went out, so I figure I can have the best of both worlds if I grow it out to the length I want and then just use a wig behind the hairline when I'm going out or I wana give my hair a break from styling. I'm lucky because my hair is the same texture as chinese hair when it's straight.

With a u-part, wouldn't the leave out on top just start to frizz if it got sweaty or even if it just rained? 


Quick question: if you do a behind the hairline app, can you ever wear your hair pulled back, or even the sides pulled back?


Posted By: Wisney
Date Posted: Nov 07 2012 at 3:29am
Originally posted by Blossom8186 Blossom8186 wrote:

Lol yes,please push the button!

But to answer your question, a really good way is to use the Tootsie method.      All you'd have to do is part however you want and place the unit behind. Simple, easy, takes 5 minutes or less.

That does seem the best way. I think I'd still like to use a bit of tape just on the edge of the wig cap in the front, just edging into the parting space on my hairline, just to feel a bit more security


Posted By: Wisney
Date Posted: Nov 07 2012 at 4:09am
Originally posted by corenybay corenybay wrote:

Yeah I'm hoping to do it today. Hope it turns out good. :]
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Did you end up trying this? How did it turn out?


Posted By: Blossom8186
Date Posted: Nov 07 2012 at 5:47am
Originally posted by Wisney Wisney wrote:

Originally posted by Blossom8186 Blossom8186 wrote:

Lol yes,please push the button!

But to answer your question, a really good way is to use the Tootsie method.      All you'd have to do is part however you want and place the unit behind. Simple, easy, takes 5 minutes or less.

That does seem the best way. I think I'd still like to use a bit of tape just on the edge of the wig cap in the front, just edging into the parting space on my hairline, just to feel a bit more security

As I am quite paranoid as well lol, what I do is sew 3 elastic bands onto the unit. 1 ear to ear, 1 temple to temple, and 1 at the nape. When I tell you that wig stayed on it STAYED ON. Almost to the point of headaches. So with the proper placement you wouldn't even need tape. 

As for your real hair, have you considered using a product like Sabino moisture block? Maybe that could assist with delaying reversion and keeping frizziness at bay while you wear the lf and when your hair is at your desired length. 


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I could sh*t in a cake at a kid's birthday party and still feel classy as f*ck thanks to this thread - Midna


Posted By: Wisney
Date Posted: Nov 07 2012 at 7:38am
Lolll, i guess I'd have to wait until I EVENTUALLY get one and try putting 3 bands in it. I still think I'd use tape tho, I hnstly keep thinking 'what if it gets caught in the doors when I'm getting off a bus or something and it just gets pulled off?!'. I'd actually just run away really fast. And I'm ALWAYS gna have an emergency hat in my bag, just in case lollllll.

I've never heard of this Sabino block, is it really good at anti frizzing?


Posted By: Blossom8186
Date Posted: Nov 07 2012 at 7:49am
Lmbo! I was just thinking the other day what if my hair got caught in the train doors because I started wearing such long lengths LOL

I haven't used Sabino personally but they love it down in the weave section and there are good reviews of it on LHCF and Youtube. Check it out...maybe if you're able to find a product that agrees with your natural hair and keeps it looking the way you want then you won't even need a lace wig. I understand mixed race hair woes lol, my son is mixed and had hair down to his butt until he was 7 or 8...you guys definitely don't have it as easy as people may think. Being that you feel such reservations about hair systems finding a product for your real hair might be a more viable (and less costly) alternative. 


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I could sh*t in a cake at a kid's birthday party and still feel classy as f*ck thanks to this thread - Midna


Posted By: cosmogirl
Date Posted: Nov 07 2012 at 12:44pm
Originally posted by Wisney Wisney wrote:

Originally posted by Missvw Missvw wrote:

You still haven't purchased a unit yet Wisney?

Lollll, no i haven't, I know, it's been a long time! Half of it is money, i really am on the breadline, and then the other half is that I realised that I would always be paranoid that my hairline looks suspect and I'm quite a paranoid person anyway, so I would never be able to relax.

I decided last week I was just going to grow my hair back and I thought that if I was able to use my own hairline, I'd feel way better about having a wig on. And I liked my hair a lot anyway, the reason I cut it really was because it would never stay nice whenever I went out, so I figure I can have the best of both worlds if I grow it out to the length I want and then just use a wig behind the hairline when I'm going out or I wana give my hair a break from styling. I'm lucky because my hair is the same texture as chinese hair when it's straight.

With a u-part, wouldn't the leave out on top just start to frizz if it got sweaty or even if it just rained? 


Quick question: if you do a behind the hairline app, can you ever wear your hair pulled back, or even the sides pulled back?

Yes, you would still have to work with your own hair - the amount of leave out would be up to the size of the u part, thought I would just throw it in the mix since you mentioned placing a lace wig behind the hair line. 


Posted By: Wisney
Date Posted: Nov 08 2012 at 2:18am
Originally posted by Blossom8186 Blossom8186 wrote:

Lmbo! I was just thinking the other day what if my hair got caught in the train doors because I started wearing such long lengths LOL

I haven't used Sabino personally but they love it down in the weave section and there are good reviews of it on LHCF and Youtube. Check it out...maybe if you're able to find a product that agrees with your natural hair and keeps it looking the way you want then you won't even need a lace wig. I understand mixed race hair woes lol, my son is mixed and had hair down to his butt until he was 7 or 8...you guys definitely don't have it as easy as people may think. Being that you feel such reservations about hair systems finding a product for your real hair might be a more viable (and less costly) alternative. 

Yeah, mixed hair is a MISSION. I've done lots of research into products to keep it curly, defined and 'nice' under normal circumstances and have found 3 product ranges I wanna try. One is the Twisted Sista range, two is a range of products by Giovanni and three is some products in the Shea Moisture range. I've seen some ladies on youtube use these ranges on their mixed hair and it was amazing how their hair turned out. 
I don't know if the Sabino would be that much of a benefit though, as I said before, my main issue was when I go out dancing (which is almost never these days, but just in case) and I start to sweat a bit, my hair just became a mop. I don't know if the Sabino would be able to protect me against that. It's probs the same kind of issue a singer would have on stage, even Beyonce, the hair won't stay nice against that kind of sweat so you just gotta lace it up. I'll try it though just to see how it pans out :)

I've got months until this is an issue though, my hair is just about to enter the stupid clown stage of growing out, lolll


Posted By: corenybay
Date Posted: Nov 08 2012 at 10:51am
I just bleached the knots and put it behind my hailine. It"s KS so iy look natural to people. I'm happy I can do cute styles with it.
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Posted By: Blossom8186
Date Posted: Nov 08 2012 at 1:54pm
Sabino is a humidity blocker which means it should protect against sweat and heat....im not sure it it stands the test against club conditions though. Maybe ask the girls.down in the weave section...im sure they would know or might even know of an alternative.

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I could sh*t in a cake at a kid's birthday party and still feel classy as f*ck thanks to this thread - Midna


Posted By: Malexandre
Date Posted: Nov 09 2012 at 12:45am
I leave abt 2 inches leave out in the front for the parting and cover the lace. I braid  the rest of my hair. sew the lace wig down .Remove once a week to DC and moisturize.


Posted By: Wisney
Date Posted: Nov 09 2012 at 2:50am
Originally posted by Malexandre Malexandre wrote:

I leave abt 2 inches leave out in the front for the parting and cover the lace. I braid  the rest of my hair. sew the lace wig down .Remove once a week to DC and moisturize.

How do you make the transition from lace parting to your natural parting look natural, do you put some concealer in the part?


Posted By: Wisney
Date Posted: Nov 09 2012 at 8:40am
I've just had a little idea which, like all my stupid ideas, works perfectly in my mind.

Obviously with a behind the hairline app, you've got to have it super flat and sometimes use a little make up to conceal the little line of lace demarcation. But what if, in your lace part, you cut a tiny u shape (like half a finger nail) at the very edge. Being able to use those few strands of your own hair as a microscopic 'u-part' wuld surely minimize this line of demarcation by like 80%.


Posted By: corenybay
Date Posted: Nov 09 2012 at 5:32pm
I honestly think it isn't that hard. If the knots are bleached the line is almost non-existent. Have you thought about getting a synthetic and seeing if it works for you at all?
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Posted By: Veemack
Date Posted: Nov 09 2012 at 9:04pm
OP this young lady from youtube has some pretty good looking apps, maybe you can watch some of her videos.



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Posted By: Wisney
Date Posted: Nov 10 2012 at 3:50am
Originally posted by corenybay corenybay wrote:

I honestly think it isn't that hard. If the knots are bleached the line is almost non-existent. Have you thought about getting a synthetic and seeing if it works for you at all?
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Once my hair is longer, I think I might buy a synthetic one and see how if it works. I wouldn't wear it out, but just so I can get used to the application process would be good. I reckon my hair should be long enough in another 4 or 5 months, so I'll defo try it out then.


Posted By: corenybay
Date Posted: Nov 10 2012 at 8:01am
How long is your hair? My hair is like to my lips like 7in.You just leave out your edges maybe a bit more so it isn't that noticeable.
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Posted By: Wisney
Date Posted: Nov 10 2012 at 12:26pm
My hair is like 2cm long, I proper shaved it all off when I first cut all my hair off a few years ago and I've kept it short since


Posted By: hennared
Date Posted: Nov 10 2012 at 8:18pm
Wisney,

I really want to say (from experience,) the only - ONLY - way you are going to know if your ideas work for You is to get a lace wig of your own and experiment.  Surely you could get something on a M2M sale to mess with?  I just think in the lace wig game, SO much is trial and error at first, and what seems great in your head or even on someone elses, may not work in real life for you. 


Posted By: Malexandre
Date Posted: Nov 10 2012 at 9:08pm
Originally posted by Wisney Wisney wrote:

Originally posted by Malexandre Malexandre wrote:

I leave abt 2 inches leave out in the front for the parting and cover the lace. I braid  the rest of my hair. sew the lace wig down .Remove once a week to DC and moisturize.

How do you make the transition from lace parting to your natural parting look natural, do you put some concealer in the part?



I dont do any parting on the lace wig.I only do the parting with my own hair ,that s why I left enough hair out in the front ( abt 2 inches, a little bit less on the sides) .


Posted By: Malexandre
Date Posted: Nov 10 2012 at 9:33pm
If your hair is 2 cm long an curly , why don't you wear it as a define fro without any parting until it grows more? get a kinky curly unit close to your hair texture . (the density is important, you want to avoid it being to bulky where your hair stop and the lace wig begin)Leave some hair out in the front just to cover the lace. 
You can wear you hair like those  ladies: 

http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/the-ultimate-kinky-curly-thread-all-vendors_topic258751_page158.html 

http://www.adventuresofakinkycurly.com/2011/08/big-hair-dont-care.html 

http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/loving-my-halleys-creole-curly-new-pics-page-4_topic190200_page5.html

http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/the-ultimate-kinky-curly-thread-all-vendors_topic258751_page34.html

The advantage with kinky curly hair is that if you want to do a part, it doesn't have to be define and neat.


Posted By: Wisney
Date Posted: Nov 11 2012 at 10:28am
Originally posted by hennared hennared wrote:

Wisney,

I really want to say (from experience,) the only - ONLY - way you are going to know if your ideas work for You is to get a lace wig of your own and experiment.  Surely you could get something on a M2M sale to mess with?  I just think in the lace wig game, SO much is trial and error at first, and what seems great in your head or even on someone elses, may not work in real life for you. 

Yeah you are defo right. I will get a synth to practice with once my hair grows some and then I will invest in a proper unit


Posted By: purpleredrose
Date Posted: Dec 13 2012 at 1:02pm
Originally posted by hennared hennared wrote:

Wisney,

I really want to say (from experience,) the only - ONLY - way you are going to know if your ideas work for You is to get a lace wig of your own and experiment.  Surely you could get something on a M2M sale to mess with?  I just think in the lace wig game, SO much is trial and error at first, and what seems great in your head or even on someone elses, may not work in real life for you. 


You are 100% right.

Wisney, this has been going on since December 2009. $10 a month and you could have purchase and practiced with a new one. Talk and no action won't help you get a good app...



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