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Topic: The hair game makes me depressed [VENT]
Posted By: IslandGirl10
Subject: The hair game makes me depressed [VENT]
Date Posted: Oct 07 2012 at 11:31pm
I forgot I had this acct on bhm .. I haven't posted in awhile but I've still been in the weave game. I've dabbled with wagmans 6-7 years ago.. Tried QHP..now I'm wearing this lame curly lace wig because I'm researching and tryin new vendors. The things I've witnessed not only on this board but in real life make me sick!

I went on YouTube and I seen a video that said "20 inch Arabian hair" . Wtf is Arabian hair?? Is this suppose to be like princess Jasmine's hair??

The other day my coworker was like "hey I'm going to order some Mongolian hair"

I looked at her and said do u even know where Mongolia is???

I'm so sick of these wack ass fake AVs with their cheap websites looking like their little brother In 8th grade set it up.


Im so sick of the Brazilian Cambodian maylasian Mongolian RUSSIAN what's next????


It's like a sick virus and it's killed us all. I only enjoy lookin at pictures of pretty installs because I still enjoy hair PICS. But the ruthlessness , thirst, etc .. I cant. Ok bye



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Posted By: Aerie
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 12:27am
Oh have you heard about the latest? Swedish hair? 

Yeah. 
It does get worse. I'm just waiting for Moroccan hair to go on the market. 


Posted By: dani454
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 12:35am
All hype. Only get mad if you believe it and fall into the trap. I heard about the Arabian hair, too, and I just laughed and moved on with my life. Beer


Posted By: Anah
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 1:23am
Did you know you could get 100% Virgin Russian Molado hair?

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Posted By: miamiu27
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 5:28am
We feel your pain. We just try and ignore most of the stuff. And yes some of these websites are mess.

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Posted By: Guidette
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 6:21am
money, money ..smdh


Posted By: SoFrolushes
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 6:46am
I saw a documentary and poor russians do sell their hair. However the people who buy it end to be high end salons hairdressers . I just do not see that hair as being easy to get hold of.


Posted By: india100
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 8:00am
Some people actually believe the russian hype .Stern Smile

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Posted By: Faithy
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 8:14am
SMH


Posted By: ms.blue
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 9:40am
Let me give my 2 cents since i actually purchased "Russian" hair. Do i believe im wearing Russian hair?-Yes/No. The hair is from Russian territories basically the Asian side of Russia so technically it is Russian well more like Eurasian.   I know there is a lot of new origins coming out-some believable and some off the wall...if some belives they are receiving Arabian or Swedish hair, that is on them...their money/ their purchase. I would say this though, before making a purchase-research the hair/company and origin. Certain textures are not existent such as bodywave, deep wave, tropical storm wave if looking for virgin hair.

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Posted By: theresag
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 10:23am
i feel the same way! 

I am sooo stressed over the hair game it don't make no sense... everyday it is someone else popping up with a "hair company".... you can't trust anyone either it seems

I've WASTED so much money it's ridiculous. At this point i'm thinking of going back to BSS hair... (not really but it's been on my mind)


Posted By: keelolo1
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 10:45am
Originally posted by theresag theresag wrote:

i feel the same way! 

I am sooo stressed over the hair game it don't make no sense... everyday it is someone else popping up with a "hair company".... you can't trust anyone either it seems

I've WASTED so much money it's ridiculous. At this point i'm thinking of going back to BSS hair... (not really but it's been on my mind)


Hell some of the hair we are buying now is the same quality as bss anyways


Posted By: hairADDICT
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 11:42am
i was thinking about this too and just smh and kept it moving , it's just plain ridiculous . worst of it all it's not even legit . i'm sure they're going to come out with like Aboriginal tribe hair if that hasn't been done already or i just gave someone an idea 


Posted By: Kami612
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 11:43am
Originally posted by ms.blue ms.blue wrote:

Let me give my 2 cents since i actually purchased "Russian" hair. Do i believe im wearing Russian hair?-Yes/No. The hair is from Russian territories basically the Asian side of Russia so technically it is Russian well more like Eurasian.   I know there is a lot of new origins coming out-some believable and some off the wall...if some belives they are receiving Arabian or Swedish hair, that is on them...their money/ their purchase. I would say this though, before making a purchase-research the hair/company and origin. Certain textures are not existent such as bodywave, deep wave, tropical storm wave if looking for virgin hair.


I hollered!

You are dead wrong for that.LOL


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Posted By: Naturalchick30
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 11:45am
Originally posted by Kami612 Kami612 wrote:


Originally posted by ms.blue ms.blue wrote:

Let me give my 2 cents since i actually purchased "Russian" hair. Do i believe im wearing Russian hair?-Yes/No. The hair is from Russian territories basically the Asian side of Russia so technically it is Russian well more like Eurasian.   I know there is a lot of new origins coming out-some believable and some off the wall...if some belives they are receiving Arabian or Swedish hair, that is on them...their money/ their purchase. I would say this though, before making a purchase-research the hair/company and origin. Certain textures are not existent such as bodywave, deep wave, tropical storm wave if looking for virgin hair.


I hollered!

You are dead wrong for that.LOL





Posted By: TheVixenInPink
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 11:58am
Man I am just mad that EVERYONE and their granny is selling hair! I mean just three years ago I was the ONLY around these parts that would actually make virgin hair purchases. Everyone else would hit up the damn BSS to catch the Remy sales. Shoot, everyone looked at me like I was the crazy one spending money for virgin hair. Now...these heffas are selling hair. If I get another damn "virgin" hair business card from another one of those girls that called me crazy years ago for buying actual virgin hair, i'm going to spit. Ugh! So over it. 

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Posted By: YoursTruly
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 2:24pm
Yea, it IS getting ridiculous. It's like they close their eyes and point to place on the world map...then it's "OOOOO la la look it's 28" Virgin Israeli hair!" Confused 
 
I just don't get it either! Embarrassed


Posted By: chatnoir
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 3:48pm
Originally posted by ms.blue ms.blue wrote:

Let me give my 2 cents since i actually purchased "Russian" hair. Do i believe im wearing Russian hair?-Yes/No. The hair is from Russian territories basically the Asian side of Russia so technically it is Russian well more like Eurasian.   I know there is a lot of new origins coming out-some believable and some off the wall...if some belives they are receiving Arabian or Swedish hair, that is on them...their money/ their purchase. I would say this though, before making a purchase-research the hair/company and origin. Certain textures are not existent such as bodywave, deep wave, tropical storm wave if looking for virgin hair.


Dead LOL LOL Dead

OP, I hear ya, although the hair game mostly just gives me a headache more than being depressed.  Fortunately, this ridiculousness (is that even a word?) with the multitudes of faux and real origins has not yet spilled into the LF world.


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Posted By: Belladonna1
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 4:14pm
The hair game has changed and it aint for the better. The demand for weave is so high. I think eventually, we will run out of quality hair!Cry

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Posted By: Lwhite1960
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 4:39pm
Originally posted by YoursTruly YoursTruly wrote:

Yea, it IS getting ridiculous. It's like they close their eyes and point to place on the world map...then it's "OOOOO la la look it's 28" Virgin Israeli hair!" Confused 
 
I just don't get it either! Embarrassed


ROFLMAO!!!!  Omg, can I get some of that  "Florida Hurricane Missed my @$$ virgin water wavy" aka "living in paradise curl"?


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Posted By: spencer4hire
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 6:13pm
...meanwhile the damn vendors are laughing all the
way to the bank!



Posted By: missyo67
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 6:38pm

Sad state of weaves..... I keep expecting the same effect of the dot.com bubble burst....

I DO NOT WANT TO BE HUSTLED..... especially by a low class hoodrat business ownerStern Smile

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Posted By: MISS CR
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 6:47pm
Originally posted by Belladonna1 Belladonna1 wrote:

The hair game has changed and it aint for the better. The demand for weave is so high. I think eventually, we will run out of quality hair!Cry
 
 
I honestly think that is happening now.  6 years ago I picked random Aliexpress vendors and ordered virgin indian hair. The hair was usually very good.  But now it is more miss than hit.  Just how many asians and indians are there to keep up with this demand????? 
I don't care what they call the hair just make sure that it is quality hair that I can reuse!


Posted By: solicitfashion
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 7:04pm

I wanna throw up everytime one of my coworkers come to me about the new origin of the month. I try to tell them its all Indian/Chinese...yet they still go buy errr Peruvian. These vendors cannot harvest sooo much hair sooo quick.  They have got to be robbing graves.  OR maybe they have a lot of yak or horse farms LOL



Posted By: keelolo1
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 7:20pm
Originally posted by Lwhite1960 Lwhite1960 wrote:



Originally posted by YoursTruly YoursTruly wrote:

Yea, it IS getting ridiculous. It's like they close their eyes and point to place on the world map...then it's "OOOOO la la look it's 28" Virgin Israeli hair!" Confused 
 

I just don't get it either! Embarrassed


ROFLMAO!!!!  Omg, can I get some of that  "Florida Hurricane Missed my @$$ virgin water wavy" aka "living in paradise curl"?



No that hurricane katrina water splash wave.


Posted By: Yogirlsr10
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 7:36pm
And the companies send these youtube "gurus" free hair which is the best quality they have making everybody think the hair is so good. I barely trust hair reviews now a days. And all the hair i've gotten lately from aliexpress/ cv was pure CRAP!I would have done better with some bss hair.. same thing and no shipping! 


Posted By: mspatty
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 7:44pm
cvs/ivs/avs are selling crap hair compared to before...There are still some good vendors with good hair out there tho but u gotta order kilos and it's bulk so you have to get it wefted and most ppl don't wanna go thru that


Posted By: GA_Diva
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 9:14pm
I don't believe all the hype either...I researched some Arabian Extensions over the weekend, looks nice suspose to be a little more denser than Indian.....
 
All I know, is that my Indian is real Indian, because of my source....The Malay & Brazillian I know is Chinese


Posted By: LovesLace
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 10:18pm
I've been suffering from weave burnout for the last 5 months.
Trying to explain to our own weavies here that it's just Asian hair was exhausting.
Now we have Swedish hair (bleached Chinese, Indian and or yak) and I bet at least 50 of our weavies have alread placed orders.LOL I'm gonna save my breath on that one and watch the fallout from the sidelines. Sleepy


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Posted By: Gumdrop92
Date Posted: Oct 09 2012 at 2:27am
I know a guy selling hair. Talmbout virgin hair.
He heard me talking about hair and ask if I wanted to buy some. I said no I want unprocessed hair. He says, but mine is unprocessed...Ermm

Right. Now you're going to make me point out all of factors that don't make this hair virgin.

I wish I would've thought of buying boxes and selling it in 2006...maaaaan


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Posted By: solicitfashion
Date Posted: Oct 09 2012 at 9:10am

Just wanted to add that Filipino hair is hocus pocus too.....Its just Malayinese.



Posted By: DIVA007
Date Posted: Oct 09 2012 at 11:32am
Originally posted by ms.blue ms.blue wrote:

Let me give my 2 cents since i actually purchased "Russian" hair. Do i believe im wearing Russian hair?-Yes/No. The hair is from Russian territories basically the Asian side of Russia so technically it is Russian well more like Eurasian.   I know there is a lot of new origins coming out-some believable and some off the wall...if some belives they are receiving Arabian or Swedish hair, that is on them...their money/ their purchase. I would say this though, before making a purchase-research the hair/company and origin. Certain textures are not existent such as bodywave, deep wave, tropical storm wave if looking for virgin hair.


That gave me a good laugh!



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Posted By: chatnoir
Date Posted: Oct 09 2012 at 7:56pm
Originally posted by solicitfashion solicitfashion wrote:

I wanna throw up everytime one of my coworkers come to me about the new origin of the month. I try to tell them its all Indian/Chinese...yet they still go buy errr Peruvian. These vendors cannot harvest sooo much hair sooo quick.  They have got to be robbing graves.  OR maybe they have a lot of yak or horse farms LOL



There's yak hair for sale on Alibaba! LOL


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Posted By: Unique Monique
Date Posted: Oct 10 2012 at 6:36pm
Originally posted by TheVixenInPink TheVixenInPink wrote:

Man I am just mad that EVERYONE and their granny is selling hair! I mean just three years ago I was the ONLY around these parts that would actually make virgin hair purchases. Everyone else would hit up the damn BSS to catch the Remy sales. Shoot, everyone looked at me like I was the crazy one spending money for virgin hair. Now...these heffas are selling hair. If I get another damn "virgin" hair business card from another one of those girls that called me crazy years ago for buying actual virgin hair, i'm going to spit. Ugh! So over it. 
 
Girl If I get one more Dude try to sell me Remy hair at the gas station...I will scream


Posted By: Kami612
Date Posted: Oct 10 2012 at 6:44pm
^^All I did was drive THROUGH Atlanta & I got hit with that.

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Posted By: MrsJHorn
Date Posted: Oct 11 2012 at 10:03am
I've been wearing weaves for about 7 years now and to see how the game has changed shocks me to no end. Its damned depressing! Even the vendor I've used for 7 years can't keep up with the sudden demand and quality has decreased. Its all the same thing. ALL of it....


Posted By: DarkestBeauty
Date Posted: Oct 11 2012 at 3:44pm
The real solution to all this depression is to stop wearing it!!! We need to grow our own hair and feel comfortable wearing it no matter the length. But yes I know the majority of us addicted to others human hair. I'm frustated my self with all the crap I have to deal with this so called weave game the hair out here is worst than wet dope the only problem is it do sell smdh. We need to start a count down to the end of the weave era for black women and then I bet you the better quality come back when the demand is low LOL


Posted By: NalaNala
Date Posted: Oct 12 2012 at 11:12pm
I joined the hair game last year. I am doing great I must say. I have a great vendor and I get great quality hair. Speaking of which I have acquired the vendor of Ming Lee & Sassy Mitchell. Sassy has great hair but its not cheap. I will be selling that this month. Believe that


Posted By: chocol8berry
Date Posted: Oct 15 2012 at 1:14am
Hayy how are you? I was wondering how did you get ming lees n sassy vendor?? Any info would be appreciated thanks!Smile


Posted By: Amillion
Date Posted: Oct 17 2012 at 11:41am
I've attempted to dip back into the weave game, but it's downright ridiculous at this point. At this point, I refuse to believe it's human hair being sold -- chinese or indian.  Take a look around at all the AVs, CVs, HV's (hoodvendors), BSS stores selling soo called Virgin hair. It's just not enough people growing beautiful hair to keep up with the demand. 

I'm not against processed, animal or even synthetic hair that's processed to look, react, feel and behave like Virgin Hair.  Neither am I against using "countries" to describe texture.  Fine.  I am against the false advertising and the quality that's being sold and passed off as Virgin.  If you have the gall to label something Virgin Arabian (just because your trying to be different), please let it be Virgin Arabian and not processed Chinese fibers.

If they have a machines to make "yaki" hair, why cant they have machines to make "virgin" hair. 



Posted By: Amillion
Date Posted: Oct 17 2012 at 12:15pm
I'm telling yall, this stuff on the market ain't real hair, much less virgin.

Artificial Hair: A synthetic polymer

Synthetic hair like human hair is a polymer. It is composed of fine plastic fibers, manufactured to look like human hair. In its basic form, synthetic hair is made from low-grade acrylic that is heated and strung into strands to make individual hair fibers. The appearance of these fibers is waxy and plastic. Conversely, the more sophisticated form of synthetic hair has texture and luster, and resembles human hair. Manufacturers of this artificial hair make use of polymer science to create these hair fibers. The fibers range in type from straight to kinky/curly with coarse surfaces to silky/smooth surfaces.

This hair that's being sold ain't nothing but high grade Kanekelon that's then processed for texture.



Posted By: dani454
Date Posted: Oct 17 2012 at 12:31pm
Originally posted by Amillion Amillion wrote:

I'm telling yall, this stuff on the market ain't real hair, much less virgin.

Artificial Hair: A synthetic polymer

Synthetic hair like human hair is a polymer. It is composed of fine plastic fibers, manufactured to look like human hair. In its basic form, synthetic hair is made from low-grade acrylic that is heated and strung into strands to make individual hair fibers. The appearance of these fibers is waxy and plastic. Conversely, the more sophisticated form of synthetic hair has texture and luster, and resembles human hair. Manufacturers of this artificial hair make use of polymer science to create these hair fibers. The fibers range in type from straight to kinky/curly with coarse surfaces to silky/smooth surfaces.

This hair that's being sold ain't nothing but high grade Kanekelon that's then processed for texture.


Um. But when you go to flat iron it you'll know.... 


Posted By: Kami612
Date Posted: Oct 17 2012 at 12:39pm
^^ I think that is definitely true with 99% of the hair in the BSS. But the hair that CVs & Avs sell, some of it is Indian & Chinese & the rest in those 24+ inch lengths I'm sure is animal hair.
I'm telling you that Brazilian that aliexpress vendors peddle is nothing but Virgin yak & thats why it holds a curl so well. LOL


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Posted By: Amillion
Date Posted: Oct 17 2012 at 1:01pm
Originally posted by dani454 dani454 wrote:

IBut when you go to flat iron it you'll know.... 


That's assuming if they used cheap fibers. The chinese are masters of bootlegging and knocking items off.  Right now in the BSS stores, they sell inexpensive Human Hair Blend and even synthetic hair that can be heated to temps of 400 degrees. This is probably that cheap low end acrylic fiber.

But with a little investment, they could use better fibers to synthesize a higher grade hair which can be sold for higher prices.  I firmly believe, this is what is being sold now. Just a higher grade synthesized polymer, to be technical.

Lets look at Jace for example and use logic. Authentic virgin hair is raw material, you cannot dictate luster and curl pattern with your order.  If a vendor is supplying this hair to her, do you really think they sit down through thousands of bundles and pick out Low, Medium/Low, Medium, Medium/High Lusters?  And to go further in detail, Low Curly, High Curly, Medium High Wavy, etc.  This is just too detailed for a raw product. 


Posted By: Amillion
Date Posted: Oct 17 2012 at 1:08pm
Originally posted by Kami612 Kami612 wrote:

^^ I think that is definitely true with 99% of the hair in the BSS. But the hair that CVs & Avs sell, some of it is Indian & Chinese & the rest in those 24+ inch lengths I'm sure is animal hair.
I'm telling you that Brazilian that aliexpress vendors peddle is nothing but Virgin yak & thats why it holds a curl so well. LOL


According to google, there's 4 billion asians and let's assume 2 billion are women.  If all 2 billion women grew their hair and chopped it off,  that is not enough to satisfy the demand for weave/extension globally and this is excluding wigs.  Hell some of yall have in your stash, enough hair to cover 3 heads.


Posted By: nycdiva357
Date Posted: Oct 17 2012 at 1:08pm
next up n coming hair vendor that request to follow me on instagram is going to get got.

I like my vendors-- to live across the world...know very little english and call me names like dear and sweetie. 
lol


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Posted By: dani454
Date Posted: Oct 17 2012 at 1:26pm
 
Originally posted by Amillion Amillion wrote:

Originally posted by Kami612 Kami612 wrote:

^^ I think that is definitely true with 99% of the hair in the BSS. But the hair that CVs & Avs sell, some of it is Indian & Chinese & the rest in those 24+ inch lengths I'm sure is animal hair.
I'm telling you that Brazilian that aliexpress vendors peddle is nothing but Virgin yak & thats why it holds a curl so well. LOL


According to google, there's 4 billion asians and let's assume 2 billion are women.  If all 2 billion women grew their hair and chopped it off,  that is not enough to satisfy the demand for weave/extension globally and this is excluding wigs.  Hell some of yall have in your stash, enough hair to cover 3 heads.

Even if this is true, if the hair acts just like human hair (if not better because it'll hold a curl for DAYS), who cares?! LOL Seriously. How does it hurt or ruin your life knowing your hair isn't human hair, but something BETTER?

People shove pink slime in their mouths and swear it's real, natural chicken. And then they'll eat KFC that makes hair grow in your belly and somehow still swear it's pure chicken. And then they'll buy mink coats without knowing how MUCH of that coat is REALLY mink. Or they'll buy a leather sole shoe swearing it's authentic but do they REALLY know that it is? Sh*t, they'll even buy a marble counter ... but do they know it's really marble? There are counterfeit Apple stores all over Asia, and they're so good at faking it that they can't even be shut down because they're that well hidden.

It's all apart of the game, and we're just players... not the creators. I say if it works just as well, if not better than the imitation, I'll take it. Embarrassed 


Posted By: gihllc2012
Date Posted: Oct 17 2012 at 10:23pm
I am waiting for someone to market "true virgin African Hair", lol.


Posted By: Mrzjay770
Date Posted: Oct 18 2012 at 7:27am
Ladies that is why I'm leaving next month to actually visiting South Asia to find out myself the real truth.  Amillion and Kami612 actually are correct about what we are receiving from the vendors is not totally human hair and possible anything over 24in is suspect for being animal hair.  I normally don't post but I have to agree with both ladies.
 
I will be over their for 1 to 2 months doing research and will update y'all with vids and pics.
My employer is funding this trip so WHY NOT?
 
I'm so sick and tired of paying thousands of dollars to keep getting ripped off UGH!  So we shall see ladies...


Posted By: LovesLace
Date Posted: Oct 18 2012 at 10:18pm
I say it's mainly animal hair in lengths over 20in if not also the shorter lengths coming out of China. It could also be collagen protein hair which is neither human or the plastic synthetic hair.     http://www.lfhair.com/pro-10/index.php" rel="nofollow - http://www.lfhair.com/pro-10/index.php
 
Oh and Mongolian yaks are known for their pretty hair. Tongue


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Posted By: Kiwistardust
Date Posted: Oct 18 2012 at 10:38pm
Human, yak, unicorn, dragon -- so long as they process it to kinky straight/curly and it doesn't tangle - we straight. 

For a reasonable price.

 Stern Smile  Judge me.


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Posted By: Amillion
Date Posted: Oct 19 2012 at 12:05pm
Originally posted by dani454 dani454 wrote:

 
Even if this is true, if the hair acts just like human hair (if not better because it'll hold a curl for DAYS), who cares?! LOL Seriously. How does it hurt or ruin your life knowing your hair isn't human hair, but something BETTER?

People shove pink slime in their mouths and swear it's real, natural chicken. And then they'll eat KFC that makes hair grow in your belly and somehow still swear it's pure chicken. And then they'll buy mink coats without knowing how MUCH of that coat is REALLY mink. Or they'll buy a leather sole shoe swearing it's authentic but do they REALLY know that it is? Sh*t, they'll even buy a marble counter ... but do they know it's really marble? There are counterfeit Apple stores all over Asia, and they're so good at faking it that they can't even be shut down because they're that well hidden.

It's all apart of the game, and we're just players... not the creators. I say if it works just as well, if not better than the imitation, I'll take it. Embarrassed 


It doesn't hurt or ruin my life. But I do care if I think I'm purchasing Virgin Russian Fede hair, and it's really processed Dragon Yak.  That is false advertisement, no matter how great the quality of the hair is.

Now addressing quality.  If the hair is packaged as Remy *insert country* hair, and it look, feel and react well....I have no problem purchasing this processed Remy hair.


Posted By: beauty05
Date Posted: Oct 19 2012 at 4:54pm
I rarely post, but for this topic I'd like to give my 2 cents. 
There's still authentic virgin hair out there. The problem is that the majority of people don't want to pay for it. That's why lately there's a rise in bootlegged vendor's catering to the demand for "good hair at low prices". Unfortunately, they can't meet the demand because "good hair at low prices" no longer exists (and believe me, they know this). However, poor quality hair at low prices does -- and in abundance. 

Did "good hair at low prices" ever exist?? A few years ago, yes. Nowadays, no. Why? It all comes down to the laws of supply and demand. Demand is much higher now, therefore the prices are much higher. 

Bottom line is this: If you're willing to pay at least $40 - $70 or more per oz (price range depends on the length), you can get authentic virgin hair (I suggest a buying from a reputable vendor (with an emphasis on "reputable") who's been around at least 5-10 years and allows returns/refunds/exchanges if there's legitimate proof that the product doesn't meet reasonable expectations - basically a vendor who has a lot to lose by selling poor quality products).  If you're not willing to pay at least $40 - $70 per oz, it's going to continue to be a crap shoot. Sometimes you might get lucky, most times you won't. If you're ok with frequently losing money on the gamble, then I'd say continue to search for something where the odds of finding it are very low. Hey, you never know, lol. 

The demand for authentic virgin hair is very high and because of this it's very expensive. No vendor is going to sell premium quality hair for low prices when they can get a higher price for it.  


Posted By: Brooke@RC
Date Posted: Oct 19 2012 at 5:54pm

I have a different perspective on this subject (as I work for a hair extensions manufacturer).  I agree that there is an epidemic of Internet based / home based companies springing up at what seems like an alarming rate.  This epidemic actually makes it more difficult for the legitimate companies to make it as these other resellers create pricing wars that drive down the price by using average to below avg product that looks great at first but winds up being crap in the end but leads consumer to believe they can get great quality at low prices.

 

Problem is there are only a handful of true manufacturers in the world, most companies you see are simply distributors of products manufactured by someone else.  They find a “source” with cheap prices or big promises, purchase from them, place in their own packaging and sell to the public.  They throw words around like “Remy” or “Virgin” or makes claims about being “unprocessed” without understanding these terms themselves, or having the control to ensure that what they are selling is what they say they are selling.  They don’t control the sourcing or manufacturing.

 

These companies simply have no means of controlling the consistency of the product or truly understanding where the hair came from and how it was manufactured.  Because of this lack of control, they wind up getting batches of bad product that they cannot afford to just throw out, so they sell it or worse yet, they have no idea its bad because it “looks” good to them.

 

But consumers feed into this hysteria by believing everything that is told to them.  If someone calls hair Virgin and then offers it in a variety of colors, well obviously, it’s not virgin as it has been exposed to some sort of commercial dye.  The hair may still be of great quality, but it simply isn’t virgin.  The consumer assumes that if they are told it’s a great, even if it’s cheap, they assume its good.  What a buyer must understand that this industry is not immune from the statement of: You Get What Your Pay For. 

 

Does this mean the most expensive product is the always the best?  Absolutely not, nor is buying cheaper hair a bad option, as long as one temper their expectations. 

 

Bottom line, as a consumer, you MUST educate yourself on what is real and what is fake as far as sources of hair and what does virgin hair truly look like versus processed (even though some lightly processed hair is VERY good hair).  In addition, make the companies you deal with accountable by doing the following:

 

1.     Call the company, don’t just buy from their website.

2.     Ask as many questions as possible and look to have a conversation with them.  If no one is available to take your call do they get right back to you?

3.     Make sure they are transparent in the information they provide and are willing to discuss every facet of their business. 

 

The industry is tough on the consumers, but its also tough on the legitimate companies.  Believe it or not, the power is in the consumers’ hands to force companies to change the way they deal with you.

 

~Brooke



Posted By: beauty05
Date Posted: Oct 19 2012 at 6:58pm
I agree with a lot of the above points. 

I agree that expensive isn't always the best, however authentic virgin hair and high quality processed hair is not cheap. It's relatively expensive. 

Yes, buying cheap hair is ok if you temper your expectations, but it seems like the majority have high expectations of cheap hair.  They aren't tempering their expectations to match the low costs.  
 
Most product based businesses are retailers and not the original manufacturers of the products they're selling. And there's nothing wrong with this. That's why there are more retailers than there are wholesalers/manufacturers. However, although most vendors aren't controlling the manufacturing or sourcing of their hair, there's still a way to control quality. Vendors should test the product thoroughly and for some time before they sell it or buy so much of it that they can't get rid of it in an ethical way. They shouldn't be so hungry to make sales or greedy to make money that they don't verify the legitimacy of their product first.


Posted By: Amillion
Date Posted: Oct 20 2012 at 7:15am
Originally posted by beauty05 beauty05 wrote:

I agree with a lot of the above points. 
Vendors should test the product thoroughly and for some time before they sell it or buy so much of it that they can't get rid of it in an ethical way. They shouldn't be so hungry to make sales or greedy to make money that they don't verify the legitimacy of their product first.

This is agree with! 


Posted By: YOUADOREME
Date Posted: Dec 29 2013 at 5:06pm
well who is her vendor cause im trying to start my busines off if you dont mind?


Posted By: Princess Grace
Date Posted: Dec 30 2013 at 1:10am
Originally posted by YOUADOREME YOUADOREME wrote:

well who is her vendor cause im trying to start my busines off if you dont mind?

LOL


Posted By: demilee27
Date Posted: Jan 01 2014 at 11:12pm
I thnk that the ones that are getting the true virgin, true 100% cut from an actual scalp hair are the hollywood stars becasue they are the ones that can pay thousands of dollars for it. regular folks like us are getting the hair with the fake fibers in it. I saw a website where amerians are selling hteir hair, but for several hundreds and thousands of dollars, if I am going to buy certifiable virgin hair it will be from someone like that. otherwise i will just deal with the semi-fake human hair I get from these vendors for less than $200


Posted By: sweetcheri
Date Posted: Jan 27 2014 at 4:16pm
Uzbekistan is the latest one I heard the other. LOL


Posted By: sweetcheri
Date Posted: Jan 27 2014 at 4:20pm
I watched one Youtube guru the other day talking about Uzbekistan hair. I couldn't finish watching the video because I was laughing too hard.


Posted By: tamela10289
Date Posted: Jan 28 2014 at 12:44pm
Bump


Posted By: Nadiesca
Date Posted: Jan 28 2014 at 12:49pm
Originally posted by sweetcheri sweetcheri wrote:

I watched one Youtube guru the other day talking about Uzbekistan hair. I couldn't finish watching the video because I was laughing too hard.
uzbekistan hair is what jace beauty hair (and other AV) is selling as virgin russian hair


Posted By: YOUADOREME
Date Posted: Feb 09 2014 at 5:54pm
hey could you help me out with finding her vendor cause i keep finding the wrong ones and i need a good vendor for my beauty bar that im opening up in march? could you help me out please.
mailto:andreathomas28@yahoo.com - andreathomas28@yahoo.com


Posted By: marie67
Date Posted: Feb 10 2014 at 1:15pm
Originally posted by IslandGirl10 IslandGirl10 wrote:

I forgot I had this acct on bhm .. I haven't posted in awhile but I've still been in the weave game. I've dabbled with wagmans 6-7 years ago.. Tried QHP..now I'm wearing this lame curly lace wig because I'm researching and tryin new vendors. The things I've witnessed not only on this board but in real life make me sick!

I went on YouTube and I seen a video that said "20 inch Arabian hair" . Wtf is Arabian hair?? Is this suppose to be like princess Jasmine's hair??

The other day my coworker was like "hey I'm going to order some Mongolian hair"

I looked at her and said do u even know where Mongolia is???

I'm so sick of these wack ass fake AVs with their cheap websites looking like their little brother In 8th grade set it up.


Im so sick of the Brazilian Cambodian maylasian Mongolian RUSSIAN what's next????


It's like a sick virus and it's killed us all. I only enjoy lookin at pictures of pretty installs because I still enjoy hair PICS. But the ruthlessness , thirst, etc .. I cant. Ok bye
BRAVO!!!!!! I feel you on all that!


Posted By: marie67
Date Posted: Feb 10 2014 at 1:25pm
I know in India the Keshores and the Goupta Group are major hair distributors to companies like Great Lengths. also Indianhairs.com is still around more expensive,but they've been in the game forever!


Posted By: shantel75
Date Posted: Feb 10 2014 at 4:12pm
I have and always will LOVE Indian hair.


Posted By: jhana-islandprincess
Date Posted: Feb 10 2014 at 5:37pm
Sometimes I actually wonder if its not just better to buy BSS hair.... it's not  gamble, you know exactly what you're getting, and some of them actually last a couple weeks before they get all ratchet. haha. Expensive hair is supposed to be an investment right... and the reason we invest is because the quality should last... but now I'm wondering since its such a huge hit/miss, what's the point... haha. 

The only hair I've personally heard of with stellar reviews are Extensions Plus and Sabine... When it comes to ali express, unless you have a private, tried and true vendor, you may as well buy BSS and know that you're getting exactly the same quality each time... what say you ladies?




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