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Just a sad story I read today. Why can't people live how they see fit if they're not harming anyone!   


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Judge rules for LGBT youths living in Jamaican sewers

Posted by Colin Stewart

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A New Kingston court ruling is the latest news for LGBT youths in Jamaica, who have been thrown out of their homes by their families, chased out of abandoned houses by police, and arrested when they found shelter in sewers and gullies. This account is from activist  Yvonne McCalla-Sobers, who is chair of Dwayne’s House, the initiative seeking to provide a home for the LGBT youths.

 

Jamaican judge tells police: Sewers are public spaces

LGBT youths living in drainage sewer system in New Kingston, Jamaica. (Click image for video.)

Jamaican police tried again last week to evict homeless LGBT youth from the sewers in New Kingston where they have been forced to take refuge.

The police have previously tried to burn the youth out of the gullies on the pretext that they attract criminals.

Police raid on LGBT youth in sewer. (Click image for video.)

The latest incident took the form of a day-time raid on March 5, Ash Wednesday (ironically, a religious holiday marking the beginning of the Christian sacrificial season of Lent). Officers from the New Kingston police post swooped down on the gutters running beneath the commercial district and demanded that the several youth who lived there had to leave immediately. The youngsters were understandably upset and some put up quite a struggle as they literally have nowhere else to go.

Police demolish house where LGBT youths lived. (Click image for video.)

Police had already chased them from every abandoned building they previously occupied and the buildings were then torn down.

The kids are afraid of going to the few government shelters because of the abuse they experience there.

Some of the youth were arrested for resisting their forcible eviction. They were also charged with using swear words (which is still an offense under Jamaican law).

When the youngsters were brought before the court on Friday, March 7, the judge fined them for their so-called “calumnious language” but also advised the police that the sewers are a public space. Hence the youngsters have every right to be there. With no other options, the kids have simply returned to living in the sewers.

Dwayne’s House, a Jamaican organization established to feed and clothe the youngsters living in the sewers, paid the small fines for some of the arrested youth. See the Web page of Dwayne’s House for more information or to contribute (in the United States or in Canada).

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Nic TheDragonSlayer on March 12, 2014 at 10:21 am

So swearing is illegal but parents abandoning their children is not. Jamaica is ass backwards. I vowed to NEVER travel there. And if the LGBT community was smart they would boycott them too. If you don’t want gay people there then you don’t want our gay dollars!!

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Wade on March 12, 2014 at 3:21 pm

Is decency no longer an attribute of Christians who support discrimination against gay people? I understand that they are acting on social trainings but how can any rational human being be so blind to the obviously hypocritical religious agenda.
This abuse is unjust and the Jamaican people have separated themselves from a respectable society.

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Andrew Cook on March 12, 2014 at 9:24 pm

Dear God, Let me win the lottery so that I may afford to take these poor souls out of the sewer…Amen

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Cloud Proud 2015 on March 13, 2014 at 7:44 am

If Jamaica does not get its act together there is going to be a law passed so that no more aid can be sent your way from anyone at all. Until you treat LGBTQ youth, others better, a simple request on the Whitehouse petition site to stop all aid until you properly treat LGBTQ peoples with respect, care, and stop killing them. Then no more cash of any kind from America and a request that the UN other Nations sanctions. Come next Natural disaster like Hurricanes, Earthquakes, Civiler unrest might want to take a good hard look at what side your bread is buttered on. Also if you’re thinking that the same churches are going to help support you that started this hate. That keeps fanning the flames of said hate through its so called “Christian outreach” think again it will be the first one to be cut off at the knees. They are the ones that are using your country since they are not able to manipulate America any longer they have to get pleasure by inflicting pain suffering on other countries that they know they can lie too. Manipulate, control with lies, claims that are not even in the bible. Things that if there were a true god it would not stand for in the first place, but then again you must really like being controlled by rich white men that only want to tear your country to pieces for their sick sad ends. Their bible is not worth the paper it’s printed on when it comes to telling someone who can live who can not. How someone has to live their life based on lies. Nothing more then good quality toilet paper not good for anything else but wiping ones backside with starting the occasional fire with. It always amazes me what less educated countries fall for especially when cash is involved from the same people that not even 100 years ago would rather own the same people as look at them. They are still being oppressed controlled, lied too just in a different way, the Christian way the same book that said it was ok to own them as slaves is now telling them that its ok to kill LGBQ people. Anyone else sees the problem with that or is it just me? Guessing they are not smart enough to get that people lie to push their personal agendas to get what they want.

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Oops article seems to have also copied some comments from the article
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once youve criminalized a peoples mere existence the next logical step is extermination.  what exactly are they waiting for?
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Its always good to get all the facts or the back story before we judge or ask others to.
The  group is not harmless. Some of them are crimminals (involved in robberies, etc) and they were presenting serious public safety and public health problem for the community. 

In fact, the gay/lesbian community/advocate group have disassociated themselves from this particular group of persons, for those very reasons. BTW. they were squatting on lands that are owned by private citizens; harassing passersby etc. The owners have since reclaimed their property for their own personal use --there is construction going on at the location now.

Other people/groups are not allowed to live in the city drains. The laws are there for a reason. 

I will leave Diane and the others who live here, and know the day to day facts, to elaborate.


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Originally posted by zsazsa zsazsa wrote:


If Jamaica does not get its act together there is going to be a law passed so that no more aid can be sent your way from anyone at all. Until you treat LGBTQ youth, others better, a simple request on the Whitehouse petition site to stop all aid until you properly treat LGBTQ peoples with respect, care, and stop killing them. Then no more cash of any kind from America and a request that the UN other Nations sanctions. Come next Natural disaster like Hurricanes, Earthquakes, Civiler unrest might want to take a good hard look at what side your bread is buttered on.


This happens to several African nations too...either they legalize homosexuality or they don't get fed.


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Originally posted by Wildfire Wildfire wrote:



Its always good to get all the facts or the back story before we judge or ask others to.
The  group is not harmless. Some of them are crimminals (involved in robberies, etc) and they were presenting serious public safety and public health problem for the community. 

In fact, the gay/lesbian community/advocate group have disassociated themselves from this particular group of persons, for those very reasons. BTW. they were squatting on lands that are owned by private citizens; harassing passersby etc. The owners have since reclaimed their property for their own personal use --there is construction going on at the location now.

Other people/groups are not allowed to live in the city drains. The laws are there for a reason. 

I will leave Diane and the others who live here, and know the day to day facts, to elaborate.

Then they shouldn't be there and hopefully there's a facility available to them.  I'm not surprised that people who were left destitute and disowned by their hateful families resorted to crime...I don't know what other ppls excuses are though.
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Originally posted by blaquefoxx blaquefoxx wrote:

Originally posted by zsazsa zsazsa wrote:


If Jamaica does not get its act together there is going to be a law passed so that no more aid can be sent your way from anyone at all. Until you treat LGBTQ youth, others better, a simple request on the Whitehouse petition site to stop all aid until you properly treat LGBTQ peoples with respect, care, and stop killing them. Then no more cash of any kind from America and a request that the UN other Nations sanctions. Come next Natural disaster like Hurricanes, Earthquakes, Civiler unrest might want to take a good hard look at what side your bread is buttered on.


This happens to several African nations too...either they legalize homosexuality or they don't get fed.



We are a middle income country therefore we do not get aid. 
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Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:


Then they shouldn't be there and hopefully there's a facility available to them.  I'm not surprised that people who were left destitute and disowned by their hateful families resorted to crime...I don't know what other ppls excuses are though.

To be honest, there are no state provisions for them as far as I know, but the various interest groups do provide to a degree. Not even the gay rights group wants to deal with that group of young men though, because of their behaviour. People shouldnt use sexual orientation/lifestyle as a cover for crimminal activity then cry foul when the law deals with them.


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Originally posted by zsazsa zsazsa wrote:

When the youngsters were brought before the court on Friday, March 7, the judge fined them for their so-called “calumnious language” but also advised the police that the sewers are a public space. Hence the youngsters have every right to be there. With no other options, the kids have simply returned to living in the sewers.

Dwayne’s House, a Jamaican organization established to feed and clothe the youngsters living in the sewers, paid the small fines for some of the arrested youth. See the Web page of Dwayne’s House for more information or to contribute (in the United States or in Canada).

No other options? Assuming they are all underage, the court system doesn't intervene and force the underage children to go into custody of some kind? They just let them live in the sewage systems?Ouch
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