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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec 20 2007 at 8:45pm
Originally posted by AfroGerman_Girl AfroGerman_Girl wrote:

Originally posted by Girls1 Girls1 wrote:

I'm sorry if i have caused more confusion.
I thought my hair was a good example of 4b hair. I am still learning though when it comes to hair types. Perhaps I was confusing the texture of the hair with the hair type. Until I read a post about not confusing the two, I really had not noticed the difference.
 
9 oz, this (Bernie Mac pic) is how my hair looks when it is picked out.
 
I am now totally confused about 4b because the definition is perplexing. If it is tightly coiled,how does it have no curl whatsoever? I don't get that.
 
I was looking for pics last night and could not come out with any. I think the hair should def be untouched to type. It should be clean and dry with no product and it shouldn't be combed out, picked out or flattened in anyway.
Anyway, as long as we all have a general idea about what our hair type is, we should be able to come up with an effective regimen;  it's just fun to see where you fit in, right ladies?
I'm content with being a type 4  for now, with no subcategory.
Now I'm on a quest to find this type 4 b hair. If they thought I was looking at people's hair too much, they don't want to see me now!!!
 
We should offer a reward to the first person to post pictures of true 4b hair,lol!
Thanks for your info AG girl, I've learned so much about this typing business. 
 
No problem Girls1, and thanks for the appreciation!Smile Your hair is beautiful, no matter what type!
 
I once saw a pic on an Afro-German website - a mixed race girl with true 4b hair. The best way I can describe it is as a "wooly" texture. It truly looked like cotton wool. If you look at individual cotton wool strands, they have an irregular shape. This is the case with 4b hair. Each strand is shaped different than the next, and therefore there is no uniform pattern.
In your pic, I can see places where individual strands of hair clump together in a curly pattern. For me, this rules out 4b, in your case.
 
The pic of Bernie Mac is debatable - although I am very thankful to 9ozbebi for posting it (thanks girl, you are great!Clap), I am not entirely sure if it is 4b, because his hair is picked out, and the pic is small. I admit, though, that I posted a similar pic in my hair type chart for 4b hair. Upon reflection, I have decided that it may not be the best representation and I will revise it as soon as I find the pic of 4b that I was talking about.
Let me go look!Big%20smile it is just so hard to find a pic of true 4b, because many ladies (and gents) chemically alter their texture. Maybe there is one on nappturality...
Ooo can you post the picture here or the link to the website where you found it?^_^


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec 21 2007 at 4:00pm
 
Hi Ladies, first thanks to all who've commented on my hair, you're all so sweet!
 
 Regarding whether my hair is entirely 4A or 4B or 4A/4B hair: to me, all this hair-typing business is rather confusing and I really don't care too much what category I fall under, but it does help to find people w/ similar hair-types, textures and thickness which aids in finding the right products for one’s hair and providing the best care for one’s hair type.
 
 I am not certain as to what hair type I am exactly, I simply believe I am a 4- something or maybe a combination of 4A/4B, heck-maybe entirely 4B, but with different coil/size patterns throughout…as you can see, I'm unsure as I am no expert. But, based on what I've seen and read from the majority of hair albums of people whose hair actually resembles and have similar characteristics to my hair when wet or dry, I def. lean more towards those with the 4B and beyond hair types and those who even name themselves cnapp aka 4c. However, 4A entirely is just a little bit too loose for the majority of my strands-this I am almost certain of.

 

 For example, many of you consider this person to have 4A hair and my hair is no where near as straight unless fully stretched http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=88615 .

 

 My hair looks more and behaves more like the ladies hair in the following links and they consider themselves 4B.

 

http://public.fotki.com/bluegreen78/natural-hair-2006/december-2006/pictureshrunkwet.html

 

http://public.fotki.com/Sera252/all_about_hair/regimen-1/regimen/25th_month_month.html

http://www.crazycoil.sili.net/texture.html

Cnapp hair (beyond 4B hair)-Some declare themselves with this hair type which to me, I still think there's a lot of 4B's inthere. But, while my hair look similiar to many with this texture, with others, I could clearly see the difference as the coils look much tighter and condensed.

 

http://public.fotki.com/cheetarah1980/december_and_january/august-until/picture012.html

 

 

To AfoGerman_Girl, the rare 4B type you refer to, which part of Africa are the people from? By any chance, were you referring to the Khoi-San or the indigenous people in the Sub-haran/southern region of Africa with the “real 4B hair” you speak of? If not, I would love to see a pic when you get a hold of this. Just wondering if any of the pics you speak of look similar to any of the following hair textures?

 

http://www.khoisanpeoples.org/images/bushmen-kid-small.jpg

 

 

http://www.khoisanpeoples.org/images/bushmen-kid-small.jpg 

 

Well, I' having a hard time uploading the pics and they're taking forever to load. But many of the pics could be found at this website:

 
 
 

 


 

 

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec 21 2007 at 7:22pm

I was trying to think whether I should post his picture or not. Idk if its picked out or if her had it cut into that shape. I'm going picture hunting.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec 21 2007 at 7:46pm
Originally posted by bellefro bellefro wrote:

 
Hi Ladies, first thanks to all who've commented on my hair, you're all so sweet!
 
 Regarding whether my hair is entirely 4A or 4B or 4A/4B hair: to me, all this hair-typing business is rather confusing and I really don't care too much what category I fall under, but it does help to find people w/ similar hair-types, textures and thickness which aids in finding the right products for one’s hair and providing the best care for one’s hair type.
 
 I am not certain as to what hair type I am exactly, I simply believe I am a 4- something or maybe a combination of 4A/4B, heck-maybe entirely 4B, but with different coil/size patterns throughout…as you can see, I'm unsure as I am no expert. But, based on what I've seen and read from the majority of hair albums of people whose hair actually resembles and have similar characteristics to my hair when wet or dry, I def. lean more towards those with the 4B and beyond hair types and those who even name themselves cnapp aka 4c. However, 4A entirely is just a little bit too loose for the majority of my strands-this I am almost certain of.

 

 For example, many of you consider this person to have 4A hair and my hair is no where near as straight unless fully stretched http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=88615 .

 

 My hair looks more and behaves more like the ladies hair in the following links and they consider themselves 4B.

 

http://public.fotki.com/bluegreen78/natural-hair-2006/december-2006/pictureshrunkwet.html

 

http://public.fotki.com/Sera252/all_about_hair/regimen-1/regimen/25th_month_month.html

http://www.crazycoil.sili.net/texture.html

Cnapp hair (beyond 4B hair)-Some declare themselves with this hair type which to me, I still think there's a lot of 4B's inthere. But, while my hair look similiar to many with this texture, with others, I could clearly see the difference as the coils look much tighter and condensed.

 

http://public.fotki.com/cheetarah1980/december_and_january/august-until/picture012.html

 

 

To AfoGerman_Girl, the rare 4B type you refer to, which part of Africa are the people from? By any chance, were you referring to the Khoi-San or the indigenous people in the Sub-haran/southern region of Africa with the “real 4B hair” you speak of? If not, I would love to see a pic when you get a hold of this. Just wondering if any of the pics you speak of look similar to any of the following hair textures?

 

http://www.khoisanpeoples.org/images/bushmen-kid-small.jpg

 

 

http://www.khoisanpeoples.org/images/bushmen-kid-small.jpg 

 

Well, I' having a hard time uploading the pics and they're taking forever to load. But many of the pics could be found at this website:

 
 
 

 


 

 

 



Wow, those ladies have some beautiful hair. I too would consider them 4b. As I said earlier, the individual strands have curls and coils but the mass as a whole does not have a curl pattern and that's what I've always believed 4b hair to be.

But then again, as no one is an expert, I say just call yourself what you want. You know your hair better than anyone. It is good to see others with similar hair though.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec 21 2007 at 8:17pm
 
Originally posted by bellefro bellefro wrote:

 
Hi Ladies, first thanks to all who've commented on my hair, you're all so sweet!
 
 Regarding whether my hair is entirely 4A or 4B or 4A/4B hair: to me, all this hair-typing business is rather confusing and I really don't care too much what category I fall under, but it does help to find people w/ similar hair-types, textures and thickness which aids in finding the right products for one’s hair and providing the best care for one’s hair type.
 
 I am not certain as to what hair type I am exactly, I simply believe I am a 4- something or maybe a combination of 4A/4B, heck-maybe entirely 4B, but with different coil/size patterns throughout…as you can see, I'm unsure as I am no expert. But, based on what I've seen and read from the majority of hair albums of people whose hair actually resembles and have similar characteristics to my hair when wet or dry, I def. lean more towards those with the 4B and beyond hair types and those who even name themselves cnapp aka 4c. However, 4A entirely is just a little bit too loose for the majority of my strands-this I am almost certain of.

 

 For example, many of you consider this person to have 4A hair and my hair is no where near as straight unless fully stretched http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=88615 .

 Her picture was edited on soft focus. That not what her hair looks like.

 My hair looks more and behaves more like the ladies hair in the following links and they consider themselves 4B.

 

http://public.fotki.com/bluegreen78/natural-hair-2006/december-2006/pictureshrunkwet.html

 Her hair is curly look at her roots. She's just has highly textured hair.

http://public.fotki.com/Sera252/all_about_hair/regimen-1/regimen/25th_month_month.html

She has 4a hair as well.

http://www.crazycoil.sili.net/texture.html

This girl has 3c/4a hair
it reminds me of my own hair in some parts.
Compare my 1 3c curl( ignore the straighter 3b hair) to her 3c/4a hair
(mine)
  

Cnapp hair (beyond 4B hair)-Some declare themselves with this hair type which to me, I still think there's a lot of 4B's inthere. But, while my hair look similiar to many with this texture, with others, I could clearly see the difference as the coils look much tighter and condensed.

 
 
Her pics on the 1st page are a little hair to see. So idk but shes not 100% 4b imho. maybe 4a/4b mixed

http://public.fotki.com/cheetarah1980/december_and_january/august-until/picture012.html

 She looks mixed as well

 

To AfoGerman_Girl, the rare 4B type you refer to, which part of Africa are the people from? By any chance, were you referring to the Khoi-San or the indigenous people in the Sub-haran/southern region of Africa with the “real 4B hair” you speak of? If not, I would love to see a pic when you get a hold of this. Just wondering if any of the pics you speak of look similar to any of the following hair textures?

 

http://www.khoisanpeoples.org/images/bushmen-kid-small.jpg

 

 

http://www.khoisanpeoples.org/images/bushmen-kid-small.jpg 

 
His hair is to short to type but i would consider him 4a as well. Those little "bumps" on his head are curls

Well, I' having a hard time uploading the pics and they're taking forever to load. But many of the pics could be found at this website:

 
The first boy's hair is 4a on the edges and 4b in the middle. ( his hair is a little short)
 
 

 


 

 

 



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i think the hair of the khoisan ranges.  i have some pics of khoisan peoples from namibia and their hair looks frizzy and/or straight. 
but a lot of them do have hair that seems to go beyond 4b.  it is hair that is so tightly wound that the scalp is exposed.
 
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and this is what it sometimes looks like when it grows out (unless this is just a hairstyle?)
 
anyway, when i think of 4b hair, i think of this tanzanian woman's hair:
 
 
 
 
 
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This woman's hair looks 4B but I think it's just a highly-textured 4A.
http://members.fotki.com/minaly/about/
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec 24 2007 at 2:33pm
Originally posted by Glamber* Glamber* wrote:

This woman's hair looks 4B but I think it's just a highly-textured 4A.
http://members.fotki.com/minaly/about/
 
I agree because her roots where there is no color is wavy. Her Dec. album really looks 4a.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec 30 2007 at 3:27pm
Wow. You ladies are posting such great links and photos!
I have never seen pics like these before.
Of course I still can't type them...
Where are the experts? Come in and analyze.
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