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Originally posted by Flowing-Ice Flowing-Ice wrote:

Originally posted by James Avery James Avery wrote:

Originally posted by Flowing-Ice Flowing-Ice wrote:

do you mean seeing signs when they are like teens are something james?
yea and maybe even younger.

what signs would they be looking for in a pre-teen? 
innapropriate touching
making sexual gestures
if a younger child doesn't want to be left alone with the older child
injuries or marks consistent with sexual abuse
 
 
 
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Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:

It has been said that these ppl cannot be helped.
But it is unacceptable that they be among us.

While the research may have credence it doesn't change how I view them.
They are natural monsters


my view.

i have no sympathy for these people.

none.
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Originally posted by Serwa Serwa wrote:

Originally posted by ThoughtCouture ThoughtCouture wrote:

Originally posted by Serwa Serwa wrote:

 
What are children who prey on other children called?
 
bullies?
 
I'm speaking about sexual predators. A good deal of sexual abuse/molestation among children is committed by other children, often older children towards younger ones.
 
hmmmm...i guess that would be rape...i guess...
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Originally posted by newdiva1 newdiva1 wrote:

Originally posted by Flowing-Ice Flowing-Ice wrote:

Originally posted by EPITOME EPITOME wrote:

wait--didnt BHM once say all men are pedafiles?  it might have been a gimme sentiment...dont remember

that or rapists. i think that was one of the bitter britches group. 
 
 
I do believe the BHM consensus was in the 99 percentile that all men were both.
 
i remember something like this floating around bhm.  i can't remember by who but i remember being horrified...
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I think I'm more likely to have sympathy for a person whose attraction to children has been proven to be just another sexual orientation. All sympathy goes out of the window the moment they actually act on it though.

I already have sympathy for pedophiles who were abused...but I'm still disgusted by their actions and believe they are completely unacceptable and that they should be punished as harshly as possible for them.


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Originally posted by ThoughtCouture ThoughtCouture wrote:

Originally posted by newdiva1 newdiva1 wrote:

Originally posted by Flowing-Ice Flowing-Ice wrote:

Originally posted by EPITOME EPITOME wrote:

wait--didnt BHM once say all men are pedafiles?  it might have been a gimme sentiment...dont remember

that or rapists. i think that was one of the bitter britches group. 
 
 
I do believe the BHM consensus was in the 99 percentile that all men were both.
 
i remember something like this floating around bhm.  i can't remember by who but i remember being horrified...


I'm pretty sure I've said something like that before. Might have been in a thread where I said I would never leave my child alone with a male, including their father.



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Wow , Maysay,

Why even procreate with the man if you don't even trust him with his/her father?

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Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:

Wow , Maysay,

Why even procreate with the man if you don't even trust him with his/her father?



No procreation happening over here. That's one of the many reasons I won't be having children. And if for some reason I changed my mind and decided I want kids, it would be through adoption because I don't want a coparent.
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If it's actually a sexual orientation then well fine, so be it. But I don't want other deviants, like rapists, saying that they're naturally inclined to rape, or murderers saying that they're naturally inclined to murder, and that they don't want to commit these crimes but they could fight the urges no longer.
 
 
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Originally posted by Serwa Serwa wrote:

If it's actually a sexual orientation then well fine, so be it. But I don't want other deviants, like rapists, saying that they're naturally inclined to rape, or murderers saying that they're naturally inclined to murder, and that they don't want to commit these crimes but they could fight the urges no longer.
 
 


We're already there though. There's research that shows that true sociopathy is a combination of nature (lack of frontal lobe development as well as other neurological anomalies) and nurture. Not all sociopaths murder, but when they do it could be said that instinct is natural to them. It's the act that's the issue.

I think the the natural urge, whether it be attraction to children or murder or rape, can be separated from the act.

The question still remains is there a surefire way to prevent the act? If so, will everyone who needs it have access to it? And if they don't have access and then commit unspeakable acts, is it their "fault" (ethically? legally?)?

So many questions and so few answers.
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