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Originally posted by uppitynegroid uppitynegroid wrote:

Originally posted by ShadyLady ShadyLady wrote:

If this is true, he's the type who gives Christians a bad name.

The Bible may not have intended for us to fornicate and have children out of wedlock, but no where does it say treat those children like second class citizens.
 
Actually it says worse-
 
Deuteronomy 23:2
 
"If a person is illegitimate by birth, neither he nor his descendants for ten generations may be admitted to the assembly of the LORD.


Ummm... Deut 23:2 is not talking about a child "born out of wedlock"Ermm
Most people on here don't even know what marriage/wedlock is according to scriptures, but that is a thread for another day and only for those who are sincere...


A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

Bastard:


  1. child of incest

  2. mixed population (fig.)

  3. born of a Jewish Israelite father and a heathen mother (or the other way around)

  4. heathen
The following verse afterwards, Deut 23:3, then goes into a list of some of the nations/heathens that are considered bastards and are not permitted to dwell with us or enter into the Kingdom.

I'm personally not a fan of "blessing" babies or water baptisms, but if the parents feel that it is necessary, they can take the child to a different church. And people need to get out of the habit of exalting these men and women in these churches and stop treating them as if they have power or dominion over the congregation.



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If there is one god and one law, there really should be only one church.  Numerous churches exist because numerous people have decided to interpret that god and the law in the way they like the best.
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Originally posted by Claudie Claudie wrote:

Originally posted by india100 india100 wrote:

I went to his money church once during a gospel concert for my church at the time in Georgia  . The man needs to repent and make a statement . Many of his grandchildren where born out of wedlock . 

 
Marvin conveniently forgot the reason why Vickie divorced him.  He had an affair with a member of his congregation, and she became pregnant.  Marvin has an illegitimate Son as a result of the affair. 
 
 
Right . I forgot about that affair and child .
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I've never read the Bible...soo does God change his mind about things a lot?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (5) Thanks(5)   Quote india100 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct 18 2013 at 11:14pm
Originally posted by Sang Froid Sang Froid wrote:

I've never read the Bible...soo does God change his mind about things a lot?
NO. Read Revelations .
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Yea...I'm not reading. 
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Originally posted by Claudie Claudie wrote:

Originally posted by india100 india100 wrote:

I went to his money church once during a gospel concert for my church at the time in Georgia  . The man needs to repent and make a statement . Many of his grandchildren where born out of wedlock . 

 
Marvin conveniently forgot the reason why Vickie divorced him.  He had an affair with a member of his congregation, and she became pregnant.  Marvin has an illegitimate Son as a result of the affair. 
 
 


HA! 

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I got a stadium full of empty seats he can feel free to use......


LOLLOL.........Hi Claudie!!! Big smile
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the pastor looks gay.
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Originally posted by uppitynegroid uppitynegroid wrote:

Sorry boo, but religion is all about judgment.  God judges, and there is a long laundry list of "rules" religious institutions expect their flock to abide by in order to participate in certain practices.  This is not new.  I know of plenty of churches and Muslim clerics who do not marry couples if the bride is pregnant.  Some won't marry you until you go through certain counseling sessions.  Some won't marry you unless both of you belong to sect the cleric belongs to.  It goes on and on. 

She can bless her child at home.  She can bless her child at another church.  God is everywhere. 
 
 
 
 
This...and I swear no shade, no drama.  U don't need a pastor to speak with God/The Most High/El.  If you already have a relationship with "him" you don't need to go thru anyone. 
 
That said...if she's looking for community and fellowship...she'd be better off looking for another church home.  I betchu she won't tho.  Black folks tend to support things that don't want us.


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That Winans clan, smh....One of the young ones was/is facing time for scamming people out of money, one was out there roaming around doing all types of sh*t with Diddy...Bebe physically abused his wife...etc
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