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The same guy who thought the Harriet Tubman clip was okay?
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They can both have a seat.
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Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:

I agree with him he has employed and given work to more blacks in fashion than Andre.

How can you say this and ....then say this....

Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:


Andre held a powerful position in the fashion industry .
I don't know what he did to try to empower blacks or gays while there...

If you don't know what he did, how can you say that Russel has done more than him? 
 
I've heard only good things about andre and black people in fashion. Everyone from models to make up artists speak highly of him. I know a MUA that he gave advice to on furthering her career and stuff like that. He recently spoke of how he has repeatedly being shafted by the fashion industry. His editor-at-large situation is not by choice, he won't let him rise up the ladder. 

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“He admits to wondering why, with such a packed résumé, he’s never been the editor of a major magazine” and says, “People stereotype you. What person of color do you know who’s in a position like that, be it a man or a woman, unless it’s Essence magazine?” Well, it’s about 3 now? Keija Minor made the news last summer for becoming the first person of color to hold an editor-in-chief title for a Condé Nast publication. She was name the EIC of Brides magazine. Since then, Elaine Welteroth became the health and beauty director of Teen Vogue, while Shiona Turini was just named the new fashion market director of Cosmopolitan less than two weeks ago. Yea, that’s three; three in over a hundred years.

And he has talked about how people treat him pigeonhole him into sort of black, gay, fabulous, peacock stereotype ignoring the fact that he is highly intelligent and went to Brown. He's also talked about the pay cuts, and demotion they gave him at Vogue and how there are very few black people there. I'll admit that he coochiefoots around calling people out because they are his friends and he has to work with them, but you can't say he doesn't do sh*t for black people or don't feel passionate about these things. He is not one those racism doesn't exist, post racial kind of people. 
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Originally posted by kfoxx1998 kfoxx1998 wrote:

They can both have a seat.


But Andre' is always seated, when do really see him stand up?Confused
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Originally posted by Queenbeeach Queenbeeach wrote:

Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:

I agree with him he has employed and given work to more blacks in fashion than Andre.

How can you say this and ....then say this....

Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:


<span style="line-height: 1.4;">Andre held a powerful position in the fashion industry .</span>
I don't know what he did to try to empower blacks or gays while there...

If you don't know what he did, how can you say that Russel has done more than him? 
 
I've heard only good things about andre and black people in fashion. Everyone from models to make up artists speak highly of him. I know a MUA that he gave advice to on furthering her career and stuff like that. He recently spoke of how he has repeatedly being shafted by the fashion industry. His editor-at-large situation is not by choice, he won't let him rise up the ladder. 

<span style="line-height: 1.4;">
Originally posted by ALT ALT wrote:

</span><span style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 26px;">“He admits to wondering why, with such a packed résumé, he’s never been the editor of a major magazine” and says, “People stereotype you. What person of color do you know who’s in a position like that, be it a man or a woman, unless it’s Essence magazine?” Well, it’s about 3 now? Keija Minor made the news last summer for becoming the first person of color to hold an editor-in-chief title for a Condé Nast publication. She was name the EIC of Brides magazine. Since then, Elaine Welteroth became the health and beauty director of Teen Vogue, while Shiona Turini was just named the new fashion market director of Cosmopolitan less than two weeks ago. Yea, that’s three; three in over a hundred years.
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And he has talked about how people treat him pigeonhole him into sort of black, gay, fabulous, peacock stereotype ignoring the fact that he is highly intelligent and went to Brown. He's also talked about the pay cuts, and demotion they gave him at Vogue and how there are very few black people there. I'll admit that he coochiefoots around calling people out because they are his friends and he has to work with them, but you can't say he doesn't do sh*t for black people or don't feel passionate about these things. He is not one those racism doesn't exist, post racial kind of people. 


I see evidence of what Russell has done.
But you're right.
I'm gonna guess he hasn't employed as much blacks as Simmons though...
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Originally posted by cece1987 cece1987 wrote:

Originally posted by kfoxx1998 kfoxx1998 wrote:

They can both have a seat.


But Andre' is always seated, when do really see him stand up?Confused


You have a pointLOL
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Originally posted by Queenbeeach Queenbeeach wrote:

 
I've heard only good things about andre and black people in fashion. Everyone from models to make up artists speak highly of him. I know a MUA that he gave advice to on furthering her career and stuff like that. He recently spoke of how he has repeatedly being shafted by the fashion industry. His editor-at-large situation is not by choice, he won't let him rise up the ladder. 

Originally posted by ALT ALT wrote:

“He admits to wondering why, with such a packed résumé, he’s never been the editor of a major magazine” and says, “People stereotype you. What person of color do you know who’s in a position like that, be it a man or a woman, unless it’s Essence magazine?” Well, it’s about 3 now? Keija Minor made the news last summer for becoming the first person of color to hold an editor-in-chief title for a Condé Nast publication. She was name the EIC of Brides magazine. Since then, Elaine Welteroth became the health and beauty director of Teen Vogue, while Shiona Turini was just named the new fashion market director of Cosmopolitan less than two weeks ago. Yea, that’s three; three in over a hundred years.

And he has talked about how people treat him pigeonhole him into sort of black, gay, fabulous, peacock stereotype ignoring the fact that he is highly intelligent and went to Brown. He's also talked about the pay cuts, and demotion they gave him at Vogue and how there are very few black people there. I'll admit that he coochiefoots around calling people out because they are his friends and he has to work with them, but you can't say he doesn't do sh*t for black people or don't feel passionate about these things. He is not one those racism doesn't exist, post racial kind of people. 


wow. I know so little about him but I've always adored him.

thanks for the info . This makes me happy. Go Andre!

eta: the good stuff (not that they won't let him advance)


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eff russell...
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no need to compare his accomplishments with anyone, it's irrelevant really ... doesn't change how distasteful the Harriet Tubman vid was 

if he was genuinely apologizing for something he believed to wrong, he should understanding that others found it wrong as well and will speak on it

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Originally posted by rickysrose rickysrose wrote:


no need to compare his accomplishments with anyone, it's irrelevant really ... doesn't change how distasteful the Harriet Tubman vid was 

if he was genuinely apologizing for something he believed to wrong, he should understanding that others found it wrong as well and will speak on it


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