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Babygurl2012 wrote: i dont think pm will counteract lifting weights, its always good to have a weight training routine which is why i recommend everyone just do at least 2 heavy lifting sessions a week no matter what your on. Personally im not a big fan of the muscle butt, PM seems to encourage fat growth in the hips/bust so it's not totally neccesarry to gain muscle while on it, you will just have a squishier butt lol. But continuing to weight train will ensure the overall shape is really firm and round and keep your leg and butt muscles from dwindling (you dont want to finish a round of PM to realize your booty has no strength) I didnt weight train while on PM for the same reasons you are questioning it, but in hindsight i think it would have helped my results. The only drawback is you wont have a muscle butt. But as long as you are gaining fat or muscle there it doesnt really matter it will look gewd and be bigger. as for your plan :D 1) crap i dunno what cla is want to explain it to me? 2)yeppers at least 40-60 grams, maybe more if you are tall, look up pre-workout snacks too 3)yes :) keep the leg/ butt days totally seperate. You can def stretch anyday though and it will help your muscle recover and grow bigger after a workout 4)cardio is the bizness for getting rid of tummy pooch. have a bunch of youtube dance/ jillian micheals/ charlie james/ tiffany rothe/ zumba workouts on standby :D 5)Russian bear please fill me in? or is this some cool slang you kids use nowadays? if you take PM start drinking that WHOLE VITAMIN D milk girl!!!! so you are planning on getting the cream b/c you are afraid the pills will make you lose in your bust or hips? I would stick with the pills, a 100 count bottle will last almost 2 months but thats just me and my cheap azz. I would be really interested to see how the cream works for you though, have you checked out the extract/ oil/ spray? i've read good reviews on all of them but no personal experience with it good luck girl, i dont think PM is for everyone, but when nothing else has worked it may be the perfect thing for your body <3 idk if you are still noogling, but the swelling from PM will help with it a lot too !

Cla is a supplement that is supposed to target belly fat, its made from safflower oil our its found in safflower oil, something like that. Russian bear is a protein drink that also bulks you up. I don't drink whole milk because of all of the bleached pus in it. dairy messes with my sinuses. I stopped drinking milk last october and I feel much better. I'll take calcium supplements and extra vitamin d if I have to. Yes, I'm scared if I take the pills something wil happen. my boobs have actually shrunk in the past 3 months due to either flax seed oil or noogling. I think it was the fso. My hips shrank when I was taking herbs before as well. Weird right? I'm almost back to normal now with my hips. That's why I want to just target my boobs. I may get the pills though... Thanks for the advice!

Babygurl2012 wrote: @bk2la PM is the strongest phytoestrogen (plant estrogen) you can buy. I only took the pill and had incredible swelling, however the fear of getting a blood clot or stroke was freaking me out (blood clots are a risk, but if your pretty healthy it shouldnt be an issue, im just a worrier though). I would loooove love love LOVE to be back on it but not right now. It was serious stuff and if you want to commit to it, you have a chance to get some really crazy results.   However, you cant take ANY other phytoestrogen while on it, no maca or saw palmetto either. No soy food or milk.

I've got a blood clot in my leg that's been pretty quiet lately, but it started acting up again...I was afraid it was the PM trying to make it worse... -_- But it is an on and off again thing, so since it's still early into my PM (2 weeks so far), I guess I'll have to see what happens. I don't think I'll stop PM unless it starts to become a real problem. :/ I'm already getting tingles in my breasts and butt, so I know I'm going to get great results!

I don't think maca with PM should be a problem. Since if you're already making a lot of estrogen, it won't tell your body to create even more. I was taking it, and will continue to take it again next month when I can afford to buy another bottle. I also don't think Saw Palmetto is bad to take with it. I'm taking high amounts of saw palmetto extract (I need to for my PCOS), and so far it hasn't had any negative side effects. I don't think SP is estrogenic enough to clog up your estrogen receptors. Maybe some women who produce normal amounts of estrogen on their own will see negative results if they consume too many other phytoestrogens or xenoestrogens (such as in milk), but for someone like myself who naturally produces almost no estrogen/progesterone, I know it shouldn't affect me negatively.

I just upped my PM dose today to 1,000mg, and started on PC for the month. I tried on a 36D bra (would be the same as my goal size of 32E), and it fit perfectly. That's how I knew it was made half a size too small. LOL. BUT. That means I'm only half a cup away from my goal for sure! I'm so excited!

@natty, have you read anywhere that  someone had good results while taking sp and maca? from my research it just seemed like you are supposed to take PM by itself. SP has a low amount of phytoestroges, but still enough to be interrupting the PM i think. And b/c maca is a hormone stabilizer it didnt seem right to take it while im trying to up my estrogen.

Edited by Babygurl2012 - Nov 01 2012 at 4:26pm

Hold up, she said bleached pus in milk?



Let me research.

Babygurl2012 wrote: @natty, have you read anywhere that  someone had good results while taking sp and maca? from my research it just seemed like you are supposed to take PM by itself. SP has a low amount of phytoestroges, but still enough to be interrupting the PM i think. And b/c maca is a hormone stabilizer it didnt seem right to take it while im trying to up my estrogen.     How do you feel comfortable taking PM while having a blood clot  i would be going crazy. Do you know how serious a stroke is girl?  :( and you said you are low in estrogen, but blood cots are a sign of estrogen dominance. Im just wondering why you think you have a blood clot in the first place i bet you are fine <33333  please be careful

I HOPE SP isn't estrogenic enough to interrupt my PM. :/ I'm very low in estrogen, so it's possible that even at 1,000mg PM, SP still won't be enough to steal away my estrogen receptors. But this is all trial and error, so we'll see. :) I personally like maca because it won't prevent estrogen from rising, it will merely increase other hormones in response to the rise in estrogen, to keep things level. Although, again, this is all trial and error.

I've had so many health problems for so long, I just pretty much grew up with a habit of ignoring them and seeing what happens. :/ Not a good habit by any means, but whatever. I'm not CERTAIN it's a blood clot, but I'm not sure what else it could be...I've had this problem on and off for YEARS, and it definitely FEELS like what a blood clot would be. Sometimes the pain gets pretty bad and I have to pull over while driving (it's in my right leg). So I dunno. Other things can cause blood clots as well, not just estro dominance, otherwise men wouldn't get them, so I'm assuming it's just one of my many health problems causing it. But it does seem to get worse with all my NBE herbs. =_=

IF I EVER STOP POSTING HERE, YOU GUYS WILL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.

I didn't think my PM was really working, but the past two days when I adjust the cups on my 36D bra (stupid large bands!!!), my nipples pop out...so I guess there's something going on in there making them slightly fuller. When I cup my breasts with my hands from side-to-side, there's just a little bit more growth now (since measuring is no longer an option, this is how I check for growth now lol).