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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 26 2013 at 9:06am
I believe in language re appropriation it's not really a belief it's a reality. Words in general hardly ever have a linear history. Few words retain their original meanings.

I have no issue when members of that particular group take back a word and flip it

Language re appropriation can fail though but that's another story

Edited by jonesable - Jul 26 2013 at 9:10am
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 26 2013 at 9:12am
Originally posted by tatee tatee wrote:


thanx Kfoxx but this really isnt about my hair.  ive never had hair issues.  this is more of a semantic issue and the use words designed to oppress.


Nappy used to be a bad word but now it is changing IMO, like every other negative connotation it is neutralized (from an internal damage prospective) by being embraced. 

Okay you're bringing up a broader point and you just made me realize that the only place this word could have originated from is white people.  I mean of course I had to know that internally but I never confirmed it in my own head.  FckLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 26 2013 at 9:18am
So some context.

Me and a least one person I know have had different yt hair stylists for a period of time in our hair history.  We both had the exact same story.  When talking to our sylist we used the word 'nappy' and in both cases we got very perplexed looks and they both said:

 'your hair is not nappy, its curly, what do you mean'Confused

Could be their training specifically but apparently there was no ingrained notion of the word nappy.  Probably an exception but it was interesting. 

Of course this was before we knew there was such a thing as hair typingDead
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 26 2013 at 9:20am
Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:

I believe in language re appropriation it's not really a belief it's a reality. Words in general hardly ever have a linear history. Few words retain their original meanings.

I have no issue when members of that particular group take back a word and flip it

Language re appropriation can fail though but that's another story


Yes indeed.  I think nappy is very tricky and now I completely understand the question and don't know the answer yetLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 26 2013 at 9:24am
I've had the the same experience white people have called my hair " really really curly" and I forgot my audience and used the word nappy.
They asked me what the word nappy meant in regards to hair and I just said nevermind.


They probably went searching on yahoo answers ...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 26 2013 at 9:32am
Originally posted by kfoxx1998 kfoxx1998 wrote:

Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:

I believe in language re appropriation it's not really a belief it's a reality. Words in general hardly ever have a linear history. Few words retain their original meanings.

I have no issue when members of that particular group take back a word and flip it

Language re appropriation can fail though but that's another story


Yes indeed.  I think nappy is very tricky and now I completely understand the question and don't know the answer yetLOL


you two got me over here building road block after road blockLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 26 2013 at 9:36am
Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:

I believe in language re appropriation it's not really a belief it's a reality. Words in general hardly ever have a linear history. Few words retain their original meanings.

I have no issue when members of that particular group take back a word and flip it

Language re appropriation can fail though but that's another story


ive always tried wrap my head around reapproriation of words but i always fail.  i understand it in terms of a word that was already positive (e.g gay) but  not really in the case of words that are deemed negative.

if you have any example throw them my way
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 26 2013 at 9:40am
tatee the first one that comes to mind is Brotha Man.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 26 2013 at 9:41am
See, we took it back, flipped it and still can't even use on BlackHMLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul 26 2013 at 9:47am
Ok this may not be the most clear cut answer but let's see here.

Take the word hector, its present meaning is negative , bully.
Of course it didnt start that way the original meaning was neutral and meant holder , stayer then it took on the meaning of meaning Valiant warrior after the Trojan hero.
But in the mid 1600s the word was used in reference to London street gangs and the negative connotation of the word remained unless used in direct reference to Greek mythology

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