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ms_wonderland
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Posted: Feb 06 2013 at 9:41pm |
niecy wrote:
ms_wonderland wrote:
modelbusiness82 wrote:
So just so I
understand, AA's aren't allowed to get nose jobs, but breast implants or
taking supplements to get a bigger backside are ok? This falls under
that BS about "like yourself for who you are" but where do we draw the
line? Anything you put on yourself that isn't what you were born with
(exception being clothes) can be seen as a form of "selling out" to
please the masses. Didn't we just have a 50+ pg thread on makeup vs no
makeup??
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people who are against nose jobs are probably against breast implants and butt enhancements as well.
eta: getting the nose done is more motivated by fitting into the white standard of beauty vs pure vanity like boobs. if you want a larger butt it's probably b/c of pressure within blk communities.
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Not sure if I fully understood what you were trying to say but as far as boob jobs it seems like it's done more in the white community than in the black community. Either way all of this stuff is for vanity reasons anyway IMO. |
it seems like ppl opting for the nose job do it b/c a thinner nose is prized by the white standard of beauty...it's deeper to me than a boob job. i bet a ton of ppl want boob jobs just so they can fill out dresses. there is no standard boob size with white or black. your nose can be a definite ethnic marker that you're trying to erase. why do Jewish, Asian, and African American reporters and celebs always have to get nose jobs?
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Posted: Feb 06 2013 at 9:43pm |
5 women 1. Rihanna 2. Angela Basset (looks amaaaazing btw) 3. ... 4. ... 5. ... ... i'll be back with the rest cuz I gotta think about this som mo 
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Posted: Feb 06 2013 at 9:44pm |
niecy wrote:
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I think wanting long hair is a woman thing. |
Men play into that ish to an extent though too. Alot of times I've heard men say they don't want a woman with short hair because long hair is more feminine. Most of the time it's black men who I've heard say that though. | A lot of women look sexy with short hair though. I don't even get why long hair means "feminine". Youthful? Yeah. But take rih for example. She ooze sexy with that cut of hers.
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Posted: Feb 06 2013 at 9:44pm |
Alias_Avi wrote:
It's great that YOU, a self-realized grown Black woman, know yourself
and it's great that you're smart enough to choose your role models
wisely but this is not the case for everyone, particularly young
impressionable Black girls
No it's not Beyonce's "fault" that young people want to emulate her... actually that's complete BS It
is absoultely her fault that young people (Black girls in this case)
want to emulate her. Is that not her ultimate goal? To have that much
influence over young people? So yea, in that way she is responsible for
the message she sends to young Black girls
Your argument reminds me of the "teenagers don't need condoms because they shouldn't be having sex" argument. Yea, they shouldn't
but they do and that's why WE older, wiser ones have to hold ourselves
responsible for the message we send young people, ESPECIALLY when we are
in a position to affect the masses
modelbusiness82 wrote:
Because they have nothing better to do with their time.
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guarantee this, while we're sitting here debating how good or bad her
nose looks and whether or not it makes her an appropriate role model for
black women/girls, Ms Bey is still making her millions giving not an
eff about such things.
IMO only people who I know personally are
worthy of role model status. As, you can't admire someone 100% when you
don't know them personally and know what they're about when they're not
under the microscope.
All this drama over her nose. It looked
like a bad contouring job since clearly on the inauguration and her
press conference, her nose looked normal.
So just so I
understand, AA's aren't allowed to get nose jobs, but breast implants or
taking supplements to get a bigger backside are ok? This falls under
that BS about "like yourself for who you are" but where do we draw the
line? Anything you put on yourself that isn't what you were born with
(exception being clothes) can be seen as a form of "selling out" to
please the masses. Didn't we just have a 50+ pg thread on makeup vs no
makeup??
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OT: I totally disagree with that mindset. I am SOOOOO
for sex ed and providing condoms in HS, etc. I grew up in an evangelical
household and can speak from personal experience that repressive
regimes don't prevent things from happening, just makes them happen in
secret. Pretending their is no problem is not an effective remedy.
Education is the key to prevention or at least to doing things in an
informed and intelligent way. On topic: My point is
this: Celebrities by default are usually some of the most flawed people
on this earth. So, wanting to emulate them is ridiculous. Parents need
to present themselves as a role model rather than turning to television
entities, politicians, etc to do the child rearing/provide moral
compasses for them. At least that way, if a celeb/politico acts a fool,
you're child isn't basing their entire moral compass on people they'll
never meet most likely. If you're training your children to respect
themselves, and see themselves as beautiful regardless of whether
they're "high yellow" or darker than dark, then these celebs turning
themselves inside out for the almighty dollar won't have an adverse
effect.
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Posted: Feb 06 2013 at 9:45pm |
niecy wrote:
Finesseful wrote:
I think wanting long hair is a woman thing. |
Men play into that ish to an extent though too. Alot of times I've heard men say they don't want a woman with short hair because long hair is more feminine. Most of the time it's black men who I've heard say that though. |
I've heard a few white guys say that too though.
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5 women
1. Rihanna 2. Angela Basset (looks amaaaazing btw) 3. Viola Davis 4. Whoopi Goldberg 5. Oprah Winfrey
6. Taraji P. Henson (gorgeous) 7. Alfre Woodard
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Patti Stanger says men don't like curly hair or short hair.
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Posted: Feb 06 2013 at 9:47pm |
Alias_Avi wrote:
5 women
1. Rihanna 2. Angela Basset (looks amaaaazing btw) 3. Viola Davis 4. Whoopi Goldberg 5. Oprah Winfrey
6. Taraji P. Henson (gorgeous) 7. Alfre Woodard
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this is your list of black women who are considered sex symbols?
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My hair isn't short right now per se, but I think my lil fro becomes me.
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Posted: Feb 06 2013 at 9:48pm |
Alias_Avi wrote:
5 women
1. Rihanna bwahahahha girl that is not contouring she has definitely got a nose job . 2. Angela Basset (looks amaaaazing btw) 3. ... 4. ... 5. ...
... i'll be back with the rest cuz I gotta think about this som mo  
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