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    Posted: Jan 17 2013 at 4:11pm

NEW YORK — With a new single about to drop, a solo album in the works and a starring role in a national tour of a Broadway musical, you'd be hard-pressed to tell that Michelle Williams once had difficulty just getting out of bed.

The singer-actress – one third of Destiny's Child alongside Beyonce and Kelly Rowland – said that in the past few months she has emerged from years of suffering from moderate depression. Her dark cloud lifted thanks to exercise, therapy and positive thinking.

"I've dealt with depression," the 32-year-old said during a break in rehearsals for a new touring production of "Fela!" that kicks off later this month. "I had to choose to get out of bed and do whatever I needed to do to be happy."

Williams says she suffered her first bout of depression at 15 or 16 and has managed to avoid medication. She is speaking out for the first time about her battle to encourage others to seek help.

"We're taught, `Just go to church and pray about it. The Lord is going to heal you.' Well, in the meantime, I believe God-gifted people, physicians, doctors, therapists – that's your healing. Take advantage of it," she said. "Go see a professional so that they can assess you. It's OK if you're going through something. Depression is not OK, but it is OK to go get help."

Williams on this day is bursting with energy, smiling and laughing, her body even leaner than normal as she dives into the frenetic biography of Nigerian musician and activist Fela Anikulapo Kuti, who died in 1997.

In the rehearsal room, Williams bounces in her chair with the other cast members as the show's hybrid of jazz and pop songs swells. Though she's a Grammy Award winner, she easily hugs her fellow performers and wears sweat pants and a tank top. Where's the diva? "Who has time for that?" she said. "That's just dumb. I come from Rockford, Ill. – there's no divas there."

Williams will be playing the role of Sandra Isadore, who was Fela's African-American lover. Maija Garcia, the tour director and choreographer, said the presence of a Destiny's Child member in the cast "empowers the musical."

"Sandra is our key for an American audience to look at Fela and understand a bit more where Fela may have been coming from," Garcia said. "And an American audience can very much identify with Michelle Williams because she's of our time. She really becomes a vehicle for people to learn about Fela and for people to understand why Fela is relevant in the United States."

The show, which made it to Broadway in 2009, is set for a 16-city tour starting at the Shakespeare Theatre Company in Washington, D.C., on Jan. 29. By the time summer rolls around, it will have visited Miami, Atlanta, Cleveland, Dallas, Los Angeles, Seattle and Nashville, Tenn.

Williams is looking forward to cheese steaks – extra provolone, please – and fabulous food on the road. "I know it doesn't look like I eat – I'm just blessed with a high metabolism right now," she said. "I'm having a time trying to gain weight."

The Jan. 29 date is important to Williams for another reason. That's when Destiny's Child releases "Love Songs," a collection of previously released songs as well as a new track co-written by Williams, "Nuclear," the group's first new recording since 2004.

The new song was recorded before Christmas in Los Angeles when all three members were recording their own solo projects. While Williams said the trio isn't ready to make a new full-length CD right now, the old magic that created songs including "Say My Name" and "Bootylicious" is still there.

"Stacking those harmonies on top (of) each other gave me goose bumps," she said of recording the new song. "We were like, `We still sound good together.' Duh! The bond will never die. We're always going to be close. We're always going to work together."

"It's amazing that people are still fascinated by the connection. It's been about eight years since we released original material and people still ask me, `Do you all talk?' We could take a picture together today and then tomorrow, people would say, `Do you all still talk?'"

But Williams was coy about whether she and Rowland will join Beyonce at the Super Bowl halftime show on Feb. 3. "Who knows?" she said with a smile. "We make sure not to go too long without doing something."

Williams has her own CD – her fourth – that she's putting the final touches on, an album of original Christian pop influenced by her own struggles, which includes being bullied. She laughs that she hopes listeners will be inspired, even if that sounds cliched.

"Sometimes you're going to wake up on the wrong side of the bed or some situation might have you down in the dumps, but you have to choose to be happy," she said. "I'm choosing life. And I'm hoping this album makes people want to choose life."

In the meantime, there's her fifth stage show to concentrate on. Williams adds the character of Sandra Isadore to a list that includes the title role of "Aida" on Broadway and Roxie Hart in "Chicago" on Broadway and in London.

"People might look at my resume and be confused. I'm not just one thing," she said. But switching genres and projects – she one day wants to record jazz and bluegrass albums – comes naturally.

"People I look up to did it all the time – Whitney Houston, Aretha Franklin, Sam Cooke, Marvin Gaye," she said. "Sometimes I'm like, `Man, I really should be more like my other peers and really stick to one thing,' but I love what I do."



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Breaking hip-hop’s silence: Kid Cudi speaks on mental health

Kid Cudi, also known as 28-year-old Scott Mescudi (who is described as “a hip-hop iconoclast”), discusses his battle with antidepressant medication in his “Life After Death” cover story for Complex Magazine’s February/March issue. The pills were prescribed by a therapist for an “emotional breakdown” that ensued after a bad relationship breakup.
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It’s rare for an artist to speak so candidly about these issues, but it is especially noteworthy within hip-hop. As a genre that reflects the black community’s long history of silence and stigmatization surrounding mental illness, mainstream hip-hop has a long way to go in mental health advocacy. Still, there has always been a rebellious strand within hip-hop, boldly telling stories of psychological warfare and ways to combat it. And that’s the strand that we need to pay the most attention to.

Cudi exists in a culture that will quickly sweep his story under a rug, branding him as an eccentric artist who stands out from the pack. He, like Lupe Fiasco, Kanye West and select others who are described as “hip-hop’s most cerebral artists,” are typically given a “pass” to be hyper-emotional.

West, for example, has remained under a media spotlight since the 2007 loss of his mother and the intense public backlash connected to the 2009 MTV Video Music Awards. West’s struggles haven’t always been seen as serious, but in the popular rap song “Clique” that also features rappers Big Sean and Jay-Z, West states, as he has in past interviews and public confessions, that he has suffered from depression and even considered suicide at one point.

Often viewed as a therapeutic medium, mainstream hip-hop has in many ways been detrimental to African American mental health wellness. The culture’s heavy reliance on sex, drugs, alcohol and material consumption glamorizes what are in fact unhealthy coping mechanisms. Nonetheless, we must acknowledge those times when hip-hop breaks its silences and depicts black men struggling to confront their pain, fear and anger rather than trying to mask or escape it.

Two artistic examples that immediately come to mind are Geto Boys’ “Mind Playing Tricks on Me” (1991) and Notorious B.I.G.’s “Suicidal Thoughts” (1994). The former tells a series of stories with reoccurring themes of paranoia, depression and delusion. The latter reflects a young B.I.G. grappling with his self-worth, constant desire to do evil andobsession with mortality.

Similarly, Scarface, one of the most iconic rappers of all time, has been outspoken about psychosis — even sharing details of his experiences in a psychiatric ward. In the 2011 book “Dirty South: OutKast, Lil Wayne, Soulja Boy, and the Southern Rappers Who Reinvented Hip Hop”, Ben Westhoff describes Scarface by saying that he is “obsessed with the thin line between sanity and craziness, between living and dying” and committed to “[capturing] the desperation of men at their wits’ end.”

In Cudi’s interview with Complex, he explains that “after the WZRD song ‘Dr. Pill’ everyone thought I was talking about molly or ecstasy.” But he was talking about prescription medication, which is obviously much more culturally taboo.

Last summer, after music industry executive Chris Lighty’s apparent suicide, hip-hop scholar and activist Rosa Clemente shared her own battle with bipolar disorder in a blog post. Clemente emphasized the isolation that depression often brings and called for an end to the shaming of those who suffer from mental illness. Describing the “hip-hop village” as a place where truth gets told and community gets built, Clemente charged the village to remember that it is in the business of saving lives.

Today, I charge us to think about how these songs give us rare glimpses into the darkness that haunts millions of people daily. It’s often too late by the time we know they’re suffering. But, like these artists, those plagued by emotional and psychological torment are often crying out for help and wondering if anyone cares enough to listen.

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I am glad they are talking about it. 

I just read the other day that 3 out of four people will experience depression in their life time. It's so common but people don't really talk about it. 
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"We're taught, `Just go to church and pray about it. The Lord is going to heal you.' Well, in the meantime, I believe God-gifted people, physicians, doctors, therapists – that's your healing. Take advantage of it," she said. "Go see a professional so that they can assess you. It's OK if you're going through something. Depression is not OK, but it is OK to go get help."
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so glad she said this.  

pastors are not medical professionals!
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Kid Cudi

Last time we spoke was in March. What’s been going on since then?
It’s been crazy for me. I took a trip on antidepressant lane for a little bit. After the WZRD song “Dr. Pill” everyone thought I was talking about molly or ecstasy. But I’m talking about prescription meds. I had just gotten a shrink. I was having an emotional breakdown with this breakup. I kept trying different pills for five months. It *&%^$#@Eed me up.

You addressed that on “Just What I Am.”
They weren’t working. It was every side effect on the bottle. I couldn’t . My body didn’t work. It was not good. I said, “Something’s wrong with me. What the ? Why do I feel like I want to punch an elephant?” [Laughs.] “Why am I so irritable?” I finally got off the pills and then I started feeling normal. My brain went back to where it needed to be. I was able to analyze things and get my sh*t together.

What about therapy? Was that helping you?
A year ago I wouldn’t even go to a therapist or psychiatrist. But I gave it a shot. It’s working for me but it’s not for everyone. I’ve got some problems. [Laughs.] It’s good for me to talk to someone who helps me see things. I had no other choice.

I was like, “Damn, I have to take a pill in order to be OK?” It bothered me. That was a real good moment after I got off the pills. I started to feel like myself again. I was happy and sh*t. I don’t need anything to make me feel good. I just need to get my mind in check and stop trippin’ on bullsh*t. I need to stop letting mothers break me down, and make me feel like sh*t. I got to be a little stronger for myself and for my family and my fans. I can’t be out here like some simp, letting something beat me down and make me feel like a peon. It was about reclaiming who I am. It’s like “All right, let’s go. It’s time. everyone.” [Laughs.]

Who’s everyone?
Anyone that’s ever said anything negative, anyone that’s ever doubted me. I was a nice guy early in my career, and people in the business still found a way to call me a dick. Now I’m just like, whatever man. it. I’m trying to be nice to you cocksuckers and you don’t even deserve all that. It’s war. People don’t know what cool is.



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Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

"We're taught, `Just go to church and pray about it. The Lord is going to heal you.' Well, in the meantime, I believe God-gifted people, physicians, doctors, therapists – that's your healing. Take advantage of it," she said. "Go see a professional so that they can assess you. It's OK if you're going through something. Depression is not OK, but it is OK to go get help."
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so glad she said this.  

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I agree with kid cudi. Pills for depression didnt resonate well with me either. Making life changes worked wonders.
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I think it is pretty brave for the both of them to come out like that. Yes, prayer can work sometimes and for some people but at times more is needed. I am glad more people are coming out and talking about this lately. 
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Please shine a light on Mental health~ Fame FREAKS! and more people than ever are going crazy
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I'm glad they spoke out. I probably would've been depressed if I was Michele too. You made millions not really doing much, u try to go solo and no one really cares. It's a shame
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