Police didn't know they were on tape.
Surveillance video disputes details in DPD shooting
by MATT GOODMAN & REBECCA LOPEZ
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Posted on October 17, 2013 at 5:53 PM
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DALLAS –– Footage from a surveillance camera pointed at the street where officers shot a mentally ill man in the abdomen earlier this week
shows the man never walked toward police nor raised a knife to them,
disputing a police officer’s narrative provided in a sworn affidavit.
On Oct. 14, the man’s mother called 911 to report that her
mentally ill son was sitting in a swivel chair in the middle of a cul
de sac with a knife and acting erratically. Joyce Jackson, the man’s
mother, said the dispatcher promised to send officers who were trained
on interacting with the mentally ill.
The surveillance video, given to News 8 by Jackson’s
neighbor Maurice Bunch, shows Bobby Gerald Bennett, 53, walk out of the
garage of his mother’s home at 9452 Crimnson Court at noon. He begins
pacing the street.
At 12:05 p.m., Bennett retrieves a swivel chair from the
garage and sits in the middle of the block. He gets up and talks to
Bunch and returns to the chair at 12:08 p.m. Bennett sits still in the
chair until a single police cruiser arrives at 12:19 p.m. It’s not clear
whether he is holding the knife at this point.
Ofc. Cardan Spencer and a witnessing officer exit the
police car and slowly walk toward Bennett, who pushes the chair backward
a few feet. He then stands up straight and the two officers draw their
weapons. The officers stop about 20 feet from him. Eight seconds after
pulling their guns, Spencer fires and Bennett crumples over and falls to
the ground. An affidavit says Spencer fired his weapon four times,
striking Bennett once in the abdomen.
Bennett was standing still during the entire incident,
both of his arms at his sides. The officers then approach him as he
writhes on the concrete. One stops and picks something off the ground.
The other officer kicks something away, turns Bennett onto his back and
“When the officers told him freeze, he complied,” said
Bunch, who witnessed the incident from his driveway across the street.
“He did not move an inch, in suspended animation; he just stood there,
you know? Bobby was conscious, he knew exactly what he was doing because
I had been talking to him prior.”
In an email, Dallas Police Chief David Brown said the
department is conducting a criminal investigation of the incident. After
that is complete, they will refer their findings to Dallas County
District Attorney Craig Watkins. Following that, Brown said the
department will internally investigate whether its deadly force policy
"We will be careful to make further comments given the
legal procedural due process issues involved with an investigation of
this nature," he wrote in the email.
Read the chief's entire statement here.
Spencer was placed on administrative leave after the shooting. Brown
extended the order indefinitely after News 8 asked about the
surveillance footage. The second officer has not been named.
Spencer's attorney, Robert Rogers, said his client had a reason to shoot Bennett.
"The facts and circumstances known to Officer Spencer at the time
completely justify his actions," Rogers said. "Obviously there is much
more to this situation than that video."
Rogers wouldn't elaborate further because of the investigation.
The video does not have sound. Bennett has been charged
with aggravated assault on a public servant and is in serious condition
at Baylor Medical Center.
“It took them no time to start shooting,” Jackson said.
“When you’re with a mentally ill person, you don’t just start shooting.
They had told me there would be someone special there to help him.”
Affidavit alleges he pointed knife at officers
At 5:35 p.m. the day of the shooting, Dallas police Sgt. Warren Mitchell sent media a press release detailing the events.
The email said the caller reported Bennett had “mental
health issues” and “was in crisis.” A police affidavit says his mother
told investigators after the incident that her son was diagnosed with
paranoid schizophrenia, bi-polar disorder, depression and was off his
medication. She told police he “had been drinking alcohol for some
In the press release, Mitchell wrote that Bennett was
“acting violent and had made statements that he wanted officers to shoot
him.” Bunch said he did not hear Bennett say that, nor was he acting
In his release, Mitchell said that the two officers gave verbal commands for Bennett to drop his weapon.
“The individual made statements indicating that he was not
going to cooperate with the officers,” he wrote, adding, “the incident
escalated which led an officer to fire his weapon upon the individual.”
The police affidavit says Bennett told officers, “You all
are gonna need more officers out here!” The document reports that
Bennett “took several steps toward them with the knife raised in an
The surveillance footage does not show Bennett approaching officers after standing up, nor does he ever raise the knife to them.
According to the police affidavit, Spencer was “in fear for his and Wit. Watson’s safety,” and “fired his duty weapon four times at (Bennett), striking him one time in the abdomen.”
Bunch also refutes this account. He said Bennett walked
over to him in his driveway and talked with him. Bunch said he gave
Bennett a cigarette and he walked back to his swivel chair. The knife
and a pouch of tobacco was sitting on the concrete next to the street,
“I believe he may have had the knife in his hand (when
police shot at him), I’m not 100 percent sure,” Bunch said. “I know when
they came, I saw the knife sitting on the ground with a pouch of
Jackson said she told the dispatcher her son was mentally
ill. She said the responding officers never approached her before firing
on her son, who stood at least 20 feet from them, according to the
affidavit. Each Dallas police officer is required to be trained to
handle incidents involving mentally ill individuals.
An officer is only supposed to discharge their service
weapon if they are in fear of their lives, the lives of their partners
or to protect members of the general public.
‘A very intelligent guy’
Bunch said he’s known Bobby Bennett for years. He’s
invited the 53-year-old into his home before. They’ve drank beer with
each other and the two have worked together before. Bennett has never
displayed any abnormal behavior in front of him, he said. He even
described him as “a very intelligent guy.”
“Now, you see him pacing and walking? I mean, that’s
normal to me,” Bunch said. “Somebody else that may see it, that may not
be normal. But he walks and paces, smokes a cigarette, that’s normal.”
As the video shows, Bunch spoke with Bennett prior to the
police arriving. He said he told Jackson not to call the police and that
he’d “take care of Bobby.” Jackson said she never heard his request.
The knife Bennett had, Bunch said, was no larger than a pocketknife.
But Bennett was upset, his mother said. He’d drawn his
grandmother a picture and wanted to take it to her. She said it was
pouring rain that day and she refused to let him take it; the rain would
have ruined the drawing. This agitated Bennett, his mother said, and
triggered the episode.
“That just upset him. It can be certain things he can upset about,” Jackson said. “And that’s all it was.”
Bunch said Bennett was not out to hurt himself or others.
His behavior never made Bunch fear for his safety; that’s why he told
Jackson he would help calm Bennett down. He was just upset, not out of
control, Bunch said.
“He hadn’t lost his mind, he was just pissed off about
something,” Bennett said. “And I’m like, ‘if you want attention, this
ain’t the way to get it!’”
‘They took my whole DVR’
Dallas police have seen the surveillance footage, Bunch said. Chief Brown confirmed that, as well.
After Bennett was shot, Bunch said investigators took him to Jack Evans Police Headquarters and questioned him.
“I told them exactly what happened, just as what I’m telling you right now,” he said.
Officers also asked for the footage and Bunch complied,
saying they took his entire DVR system. They’ve since returned it and
the footage was not manipulated, Bunch said.
Jackson said a homicide detective spoke with her at her
dinner table and informed her that her son would be charged with
aggravated assault against a public servant. Both Bunch and Jackson said
the police have not contacted them since.
Ofc. Cardan Spencer has discharged his service weapon
before. In Dec. 2009, he was one of 13 Dallas officers who, along with
two Mesquite officers, shot at a robbery suspect who refused demands to
drop his weapon.
Dallas Police Chief David Brown's full statement on the Bennett incident:
We are in the very early
stages of conducting a thorough criminal investigation of this incident.
Once we complete the criminal investigation we will refer our findings
to the Dallas County District Attorney's office...We will be careful to
make further comments given the legal procedural due process issues
involved with an investigation of this nature.
We will then begin the administrative investigation to determine whether our deadly force policy was violated.
We are aware of video taken by citizens of this incident
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