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Originally posted by Diane (35) Diane (35) wrote:

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Diane...do u remember the incident with the gays taking over someone 's house in Kingston.Jflag thought it was unjust to evict(yeah the people who don't own the property)
Yes they striving for acceptance. But Level the playing field

No. you geting it wrong they are against that business

Executive Director of JFLAG, Dane Lewis, told the Jamaica Observer that while the forum is sympathetic to the plight of gays, it will under no circumstances condone any criminality in which they may be involved.

"JFLAG understands these young men have in some instances been disruptive, and acknowledges that the police operation sought to apprehend some who are persons of interest. The organisation condemns the unlawful actions of any person, including members of the LGBT community even if they are homeless, and supports appropriate actions by the police in this regard," Lewis said in a news release to the media recently.

The unruly behaviour by the group of homeless gays has also affected the operations of JFLAG, Lewis said.

"They broke into the building and they stoned the building and stoned us when they did not get what they desired," Lewis told the Sunday Observer.

However, he steered clear of declaring that the rowdy behaviour was the reason the owner of a premises they rented at Upper Musgrave Avenue, and which housed the JFLAG and Jamaica AIDS Support offices, sold the property in April this year and gave them notice.

"We are dissociating ourselves from criminal behaviour. Their orientation does not matter in this regard. If they are engaged in criminality, then those responsible need to step in and do what they need to do," he said.

Diane they say one thing an do the next. Give u a lady testimony weh mi personally know. Lady come from deep St Mary but she is bi curious. She sleep with man and woman. They are a group of young ladies from Kingston that go around recruiting. And she so happen to be in Quad one night an encountered them. She was raped by the women...she went to jflag for assistance. She was brushed off and told that situations like that happened. When she returned to St Mary mothers home she had a mental breakdown and just eventually told her mother. She is now having mental treatment on that side of the island. And there are more incidents that I know of. Jflag nuh level Diane.
This incident is not the first to happen. It has happened to men who don't report it as well as young ladies
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horrible but what would this have to do with j-flag?


Pardon?


Say for example, a man dressed as a woman were murdered, they wouldve been up and decrying attacks on gays already.
These men fvcked this man, so im going to have to assume they are gay. Crimminals first, yes. But gay as well. 
These rights we are always talking about - they extend to everybody.
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Originally posted by Katrenia Katrenia wrote:

Thats horrible.
I wonder how often this happens but goes unreported due to shame?


Im now hearing that this isnt an isolated incident. 
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Originally posted by Wildfire Wildfire wrote:

Originally posted by tatee tatee wrote:

horrible but what would this have to do with j-flag?


Pardon?


Say for example, a man dressed as a woman were murdered, they wouldve been up and decrying attacks on gays already.
These men fvcked this man, so im going to have to assume they are gay. Crimminals first, yes. But gay as well. 
These rights we are always talking about - they extend to everybody.
That's my point exactly
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Originally posted by Diane (35) Diane (35) wrote:

Why ppl always think JFLAG can do everything? They're strapped for cash. They cant even find housing for homeless gays, they themselves have been kicked out of their premises cause of rowdy gay men. JFLAG always denounces criminality, but what y'all want them to do? They arent the cops. They cant police gays and cant be everywhere at one




Well, I dont expect them to 'do' anything per se anything really except dissassociate themselves from crimminals such as these. But they can say something. Them and JFJ.
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Now I got to defend from women now?! Getting my taste gun and baton today!
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Originally posted by Samoneisthebest Samoneisthebest wrote:

Heterosexual men rape other men all the time.

Rape isn't about attraction nor sexuality.

Thats all good and well BUT when i say that we dont recognise it here meaning>>>> the offence of rape only covers penile penetration of vagina. nothing else. 
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Originally posted by Samoneisthebest Samoneisthebest wrote:

Heterosexual men rape other men all the time.

Rape isn't about attraction nor sexuality.


straight men dont go around laywaiting other men to rape them. I dont know these people, but im willing to wager, they were homosexual rapists. I have other info on this. cannot post.
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Originally posted by Brjasuga51 Brjasuga51 wrote:

Diane...do u remember the incident with the gays taking over someone 's house in Kingston.Jflag thought it was unjust to evict(yeah the people who don't own the property)


yeah, there was a thread on here. People were crying foul, yet homeless people are evicted all the time, for squatting. They are a marginalised group too. Nobody defends their squatting. Rights are rights. Yours are no more special than mine.
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Originally posted by Diane (35) Diane (35) wrote:


Ohhh and the fact that Perkin Boulvard is so much traffic it makes no sense (for a real criminal) to attack someone in that manner (sexually) there!

This incident has drawn so much ire and sh*t and jokes (Jamaicans will always make jokes) and rape jokes (sigh) but y'all aint so vexed wehn it's women and children. NOt downplaying the victim at all here. I hope he went and sought medical attention.

Thats no true J . C'mon.
and male on male rape isnt that common, so it would draw some amount of special attention


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