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yup, IA that blks run to the church instead of a therapist
 
yup we self medicate with sex, shopping, food, drugs & alcohol.  This is a good inerview
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I'm surprised that more black men don't want to just bust into an establishment full of yt ppl and fire. Some would say that there's plenty of motive but it's just not engrained in the psyche of Black men...They're going to kill as a means to an end.
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Originally posted by zolloh zolloh wrote:

^^^I'd like to watch that Bunnyahh, my ABC station is not showing it.

Let it out, i think we need to talk about it, politically correct or not. 

channel 7 in NY
 
That lady wants to save her son, but at what sacrifice??  The sacrifie of dozens of others just cuz she thinks jail isn't good for him??  well death isn't good for the innocent ppl he may kill.  I say get rid of him & spare the innocent lives.   Not everyone can be treated or rehabilitated.   Some ppl are just PROBLEMS, no way around it
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Originally posted by _ConcreteRose_ _ConcreteRose_ wrote:


IDK but I read a debate about if Sociopaths should be locked away forever (whether they did something or not) so they do not jeopardize people's safety. Or if we should focus on treatment and rehab. Some people believe that we should change from locking people up for punishment, to locking people up for others safety. I disagree however.

(and by lock people up, I can also mean put in a mental hospital forever)

ETA: Good thread.



Thank you. I just read an article yesterday that said that not all sociopaths are killers and not all killers are sociopaths so how would they distinguish between the ones that should be locked up and the ones that shouldn't?
The article was saying that a lot of these mass murderers have other reasons they kill, bring a sociopath is no the only reason b/c there are tons of sociopaths that never kill.
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Sociopaths dont just kill.... some of them live ordinary lives and makes everyone's lives around them miserable...


interesting list....

10 signs for spotting a sociopath

#1) Sociopaths are charming. Sociopaths have high charisma and tend to attract a following just because people want to be around them. They have a "glow" about them that attracts people who typically seek guidance or direction. They often appear to be sexy or have a strong sexual attraction. Not all sexy people are sociopaths, obviously, but watch out for over-the-top sexual appetites and weird fetishes.

#2) Sociopaths are more spontaneous and intense than other people. They tend to do bizarre, sometimes erratic things that most regular people wouldn't do. They are unbound by normal social contracts. Their behavior often seems irrational or extremely risky.

#3) Sociopaths are incapable of feeling shame, guilt or remorse. Their brains simply lack the circuitry to process such emotions. This allows them to betray people, threaten people or harm people without giving it a second thought. They pursue any action that serves their own self interest even if it seriously harms others. This is why you will find many very "successful" sociopaths in high levels of government, in any nation.

#4) Sociopaths invent outrageous lies about their experiences. They wildly exaggerate things to the point of absurdity, but when they describe it to you in a storytelling format, for some reason it sounds believable at the time.

#5) Sociopaths seek to dominate others and "win" at all costs. They hate to lose any argument or fight and will viciously defend their web of lies, even to the point of logical absurdity.

#6) Sociopaths tend to be highly intelligent, but they use their brainpower to deceive others rather than empower them. Their high IQs often makes them dangerous. This is why many of the best-known serial killers who successfully evaded law enforcement were sociopaths.

#7) Sociopaths are incapable of love and are entirely self-serving. They may feign love or compassion in order to get what they want, but they don't actually FEEL love in the way that you or I do.

#8) Sociopaths speak poetically. They are master wordsmiths, able to deliver a running "stream of consciousness" monologue that is both intriguing and hypnotic. They are expert storytellers and even poets. As a great example of this in action, watch this interview of Charles Manson on YouTube.

#9) Sociopaths never apologize. They are never wrong. They never feel guilt. They can never apologize. Even if shown proof that they were wrong, they will refuse to apologize and instead go on the attack.

#10) Sociopaths are delusional and literally believe that what they say becomes truth merely because they say it! Charles Manson, the sociopathic murderer, is famous for saying, "I've never killed anyone! I don't need to kill anyone! I THINK it! I have it HERE! (Pointing to his temple.) I don't need to live in this physical realm..."
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Originally posted by Positive K Positive K wrote:

u can't compare a crazy murdering 20 kindergartens for no reason to a
drug dealer killing 20 other drug dealers to gain territory over 10
years..not saying the latter is a good thing but there is an economical
reason for what he is doing..most murders in the hood are over money...so
I think these mass killings in America are unique to socially awkward white men



I think i should also mention that this happens in Europe as well and it is always a white male...so what do you think it is about white men? I have heard some excellent ideas in this thread, including that their own success is the chase for their problems... I have to say that I agree.
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Originally posted by Bunnyahh Bunnyahh wrote:

Originally posted by zolloh zolloh wrote:


^^^I'd like to watch that Bunnyahh, my ABC station is not showing it.


Let it out, i think we need to talk about it, politically correct or not. 

channel 7 in NY
 

That lady wants to save her son, but at what sacrifice??  The sacrifie of dozens of others just cuz she thinks jail isn't good for him??  well death isn't good for the innocent ppl he may kill.  I say get rid of him & spare the innocent lives.   Not everyone can be treated or rehabilitated.   Some ppl are just PROBLEMS, no way around it


You're a mother...how would you go about makin that choice? Would it be cut and dry?
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Originally posted by ms_wonderland ms_wonderland wrote:

Originally posted by Bunnyahh Bunnyahh wrote:

Originally posted by zolloh zolloh wrote:


^^^I'd like to watch that Bunnyahh, my ABC station is not showing it.


Let it out, i think we need to talk about it, politically correct or not. 

channel 7 in NY
 

That lady wants to save her son, but at what sacrifice??  The sacrifie of dozens of others just cuz she thinks jail isn't good for him??  well death isn't good for the innocent ppl he may kill.  I say get rid of him & spare the innocent lives.   Not everyone can be treated or rehabilitated.   Some ppl are just PROBLEMS, no way around it


You're a mother...how would you go about makin that choice? Would it be cut and dry?


just what I was thinking
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the difference between i think most of these white guys and other murderers is that they are suicidal. you can't categorize all sociopaths/psychopathic killers to be "like them". 
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