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Originally posted by HaitianDiva64 HaitianDiva64 wrote:

Why can't I be a black Haitian-American?

I feel weird when ppl call me african american because the haitian part of me is like 70% of me so for ppl not to know or to leave that out does get me upset.


i'd just leave out the black part i think they'll figure it outLOL
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Haitian African American. Smile
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Originally posted by eanaj5 eanaj5 wrote:

Originally posted by tatee tatee wrote:

Originally posted by Wildfire Wildfire wrote:

I know for sure if i was in T&T for example, got mistaken for Trinidadian, and i had the opportunity to say Im not, i would....
so it doesnt matter if its US, Europe, etc...i dont want to be mistaken for what im not....
i dont think the Belizean was being extra or wanted to offend anyone.



when i was in europe this guy asked me where i was from and i said america and he so no your not american youre  from afrique.  i smiled and took it. hell i was proud.  no ones ever said that to me before.

i would have been annoyed that he had the nerve to ask me then correct me as if he knew me. Also, he probably has the idea that "only whites can be american".<----- I hate that sht Sleepy
SN: not to sht on ur proud moment that is Embarrassed



What's funny about that, though, is that he wasn't trying to compliment you. Lots of Europeans (especially France) think of AAs in more flattering terms than Africans or West Indians. That is definitely the case in France. By telling you that no you're from Afrique, he was actually trying to knock you down a peg.
The French think of AA's as westernized blacks, as more white than black, actually.

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Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by femmemichelle femmemichelle wrote:

Originally posted by Wildfire Wildfire wrote:

Originally posted by MzCaliky MzCaliky wrote:


I disagree. South America is still America. His hair was nappier than mine and skin darker so why can't he be African American?  He is of African descent and living in America. And not to mention he was an Alpha. I have no problem with you pointing out you are from Belize but you had to raise your hand because it was that serious? I guess. I live in Kentucky but was not born here but I consider myself a Kentuckian because that is where I live at right now. If you have a convo with me and I need to be specific I will but other than that it really isn't worth correction.


He's Black. That doesnt make him AA. That would mean all blacks in the US are AA. Thats not the case.

And for some people, it is that serious. I would not want to be identified as AA if Im not.



Exactly. Technically even Jamaicans and other West Indians would be African American, but we all know the use of the term is used for Blacks residing in the US who are either descendants of slaves or second/third generation children of Black immigrants. And even in the case of second/third gen children, being referred to as an AA still might not be accurate.

The guy in your class never denied being black. He's acknowledging his lineage that is not bred from North America...


That's what I always understood the AA designation to be, meaning blacks of American nationality who have been there for generations. Wasn't that intended as the original meaning?


I think people in here want the literal meaning for some reason when the term is more cultural to me.


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probably would be more weird if someone called you an African American in Haiti .... lol
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Originally posted by Sang Froid Sang Froid wrote:

Haitian African American. Smile


If we're gonna go that route, I'd say more like African Haitian American, though? Motherland first, than specific country of ancestry, then current nationality
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Originally posted by OoDles O OoDles O wrote:

probably would be more weird if someone called you an African American in Haiti .... lol


Honestly, for the man on the corner, AAs might as well be white. Hell, even Haitians raised abroad are considered blanc when they go home. We're considered foreigners

To be precise, they will know a black person when they see one but because of the westernized mannerisms, they'll call you blanc. It's not meant to be literal.

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She said Caribbeans are proud of their bodies... is she aware that MANY African American women are too?
I get her point of view, she was trying to say that since her ancestors are from the Caribbean she is NOT African American because her ancestors were not born here (and by ancestors she meant the ones from hundreds of years ago) but at the same time she tried to say that her black people are better than the black people here.

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Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by eanaj5 eanaj5 wrote:

Originally posted by tatee tatee wrote:

Originally posted by Wildfire Wildfire wrote:

I know for sure if i was in T&T for example, got mistaken for Trinidadian, and i had the opportunity to say Im not, i would....
so it doesnt matter if its US, Europe, etc...i dont want to be mistaken for what im not....
i dont think the Belizean was being extra or wanted to offend anyone.



when i was in europe this guy asked me where i was from and i said america and he so no your not american youre  from afrique.  i smiled and took it. hell i was proud.  no ones ever said that to me before.

i would have been annoyed that he had the nerve to ask me then correct me as if he knew me. Also, he probably has the idea that "only whites can be american".<----- I hate that sht Sleepy
SN: not to sht on ur proud moment that is Embarrassed


What's funny about that, though, is that he wasn't trying to compliment you. Lots of Europeans (especially France) think of AAs in more flattering terms than Africans or West Indians. That is definitely the case in France. By telling you that no you're from Afrique, he was actually trying to knock you down a peg.
The French think of AA's as westernized blacks, as more white than black, actually.


girl i get it but you cant knock me by calling me african...ever
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