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Originally posted by Wildfire Wildfire wrote:

Originally posted by MzCaliky MzCaliky wrote:


I disagree. South America is still America. His hair was nappier than mine and skin darker so why can't he be African American?  He is of African descent and living in America. And not to mention he was an Alpha. I have no problem with you pointing out you are from Belize but you had to raise your hand because it was that serious? I guess. I live in Kentucky but was not born here but I consider myself a Kentuckian because that is where I live at right now. If you have a convo with me and I need to be specific I will but other than that it really isn't worth correction.


He's Black. That doesnt make him AA. That would mean all blacks in the US are AA. Thats not the case.

And for some people, it is that serious. I would not want to be identified as AA if Im not.



Exactly. Technically even Jamaicans and other West Indians would be African American, but we all know the use of the term is used for Blacks residing in the US who are either descendants of slaves or second/third generation children of Black immigrants. And even in the case of second/third gen children, being referred to as an AA still might not be accurate.

The guy in your class never denied being black. He's acknowledging his lineage that is not bred from North America...
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i think MzCailiky's  reaction had a lot to do with her experience in Belize but everyone seems to be ignoring that part of her argument

Quote Go figure when I went to Belize they talked that "people from the states think they have a monopoly on being Americans" Make up your mind. 

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Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by Wildfire Wildfire wrote:

Originally posted by MzCaliky MzCaliky wrote:


I disagree. South America is still America. His hair was nappier than mine and skin darker so why can't he be African American?  He is of African descent and living in America. And not to mention he was an Alpha. I have no problem with you pointing out you are from Belize but you had to raise your hand because it was that serious? I guess. I live in Kentucky but was not born here but I consider myself a Kentuckian because that is where I live at right now. If you have a convo with me and I need to be specific I will but other than that it really isn't worth correction.


He's Black. That doesnt make him AA. That would mean all blacks in the US are AA. Thats not the case.

And for some people, it is that serious. I would not want to be identified as AA if Im not.



Most people identify with their country of origin first, though. Maybe he calls himself Belizean American? Which I can totally understand, as long as he doesn't deny being black, as that would be his race.


Perhaps....i know of Jamaicans who identify as JamericansLOL...no, seriously. So, i can understand.

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Originally posted by tatee tatee wrote:

i think MzCailiky's  reaction had a lot to do with her experience in Belize but everyone seems to be ignoring that part of her argument

Quote Go figure when I went to Belize they talked that "people from the states think they have a monopoly on being Americans" Make up your mind. 



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IA Jolie... depending on where you live dictates the acknowledgement. They didn't even act like it happened where I was...............
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Originally posted by Wildfire Wildfire wrote:

Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by Wildfire Wildfire wrote:

Originally posted by MzCaliky MzCaliky wrote:


I disagree. South America is still America. His hair was nappier than mine and skin darker so why can't he be African American?  He is of African descent and living in America. And not to mention he was an Alpha. I have no problem with you pointing out you are from Belize but you had to raise your hand because it was that serious? I guess. I live in Kentucky but was not born here but I consider myself a Kentuckian because that is where I live at right now. If you have a convo with me and I need to be specific I will but other than that it really isn't worth correction.

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He's Black. That doesnt make him AA. That would mean all blacks in the US are AA. Thats not the case.

And for some people, it is that serious. I would not want to be identified as AA if Im not.



Most people identify with their country of origin first, though. Maybe he calls himself Belizean American? Which I can totally understand, as long as he doesn't deny being black, as that would be his race.


Perhaps....i know of Jamaicans who identify as JamericansLOL...no, seriously. So, i can understand.



LOL, never heard the term Jamerican before.
My family in the States are Haitian-americans, not African americans. However everyone is crystal clear on being black

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Originally posted by Ming Ming wrote:

IA Jolie... depending on where you live dictates the acknowledgement. They didn't even act like it happened where I was...............


May I ask where that was? Just curious
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....I think the peoples of the americas tend to be especially proud of their ancestry and countries of origin and dont like being "lumped" so to speak...i guess that's where the Belizean was coming from....even Cubans make the distinction, yes?


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I know someone whose father is from Belize, mother from Honduras and she considers her self half Belizean/ half Honduran... both of her parents are black tho
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Originally posted by tatee tatee wrote:

i think MzCailiky's  reaction had a lot to do with her experience in Belize but everyone seems to be ignoring that part of her argument

Quote Go figure when I went to Belize they talked that "people from the states
think they have a monopoly on being Americans" Make up your mind. 



The connotation of being an African American changed after the Civil Rights movement. If being an AA only entailed being a black person of African descent in the Americas, everyone from Haiti to Long Island would fall under the belt. But it's understood by many that African Americans are those who are the descendants of North American slaves. It shouldn't be, but that's the perception.

And the people in Belize griping about the North American monopoly were most likely referring to North Americans thinking America=solely North America while forgetting that there are many other countries in the Americas.
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