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We're talking before they dusted the dried blood off
themselves and came out those caves girl. We had already explored the world by the time they were thinking about learning to count.
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^^oooh, yes, of course.

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Originally posted by newdiva1 newdiva1 wrote:

Originally posted by Wildfire Wildfire wrote:

Originally posted by newdiva1 newdiva1 wrote:

Her first tweet was not wrong.  it's been established that African people's were in the America's (among other places) before the slave trade.  Not all black people's here come from slaves.


what? There were no Blacks here. Natives, and I'm sure many dark-skinned (tainos,ciboney,  mayans, etc), but not peoples of African ancestry
 
 
 
from what I understood black folks were superior navigators and had traveled the planet before white folks came out the caves.  But hey...*shrugs* 


Yup such as in the area now known as Florida there was a settlement of Africans prior to slavery.


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Originally posted by MzCaliky MzCaliky wrote:

The funniest thing happened in grad school. We had a guest speaker who was talking about demographics and made a statement about there being two African Americans in the classroom (myself and another guy) He raised his hand to correct the speaker and told him he is not African American, he is from Belize. Okay I get it but really you had to raise your hand? Ninja you been here since you were five. Then he kept asking why I wouldn't speak when I saw him. Raising your hand to correct somebody was going too far in the middle of class. The speaker gave him a blank stare and moved on just like the rest of the white people. Once you are here you are an African American. Go figure when I went to Belize they talked that "people from the states think they have a monopoly on being Americans" Make up your mind. 


Well if the speaker referred to a Swedish-American as Italian-American would it be wrong for the person to correct him? I really don't see the difference. The fact that we share the same race does not make us the same. Me correcting someone because they inaccurately describe my cultural identity isn't a slam on everyone else from that race.

The bottom line is the term African-American assumes that your ancestors were slaves and that a significant portion of your lineage is rooted in the United States. This doesn't apply to most blacks in the world, so naturally many of them reject it.
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I will say this though, I know that Africans aren't all kumbaya with each other JUST because we're all black.
In my perfect world my African-African brothers and sisters wash my back and lick my wounds of slavery with me, but it's not always the reality.

We're just kids of slaves holding onto what we have left of our ancient (important and necessary) identity.

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sibling rivalry
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Originally posted by Wildfire Wildfire wrote:

Originally posted by newdiva1 newdiva1 wrote:

Her first tweet was not wrong.  it's been established that African people's were in the America's (among other places) before the slave trade.  Not all black people's here come from slaves.


what? There were no Blacks here. Natives, and I'm sure many dark-skinned (tainos,ciboney,  mayans, etc), but not peoples of African ancestry

Please learn your history. Have you ever heard of Pangea?
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Originally posted by Wildfire Wildfire wrote:



hmmm...

question, how are Indians referred to in the US? (not natives)

Some people would call them muslims.

People with sense call them Indian. 
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this doesn't surprise me at all

a lot of people don't want to be african american...yall Brothas anyway


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Originally posted by MzCaliky MzCaliky wrote:

The funniest thing happened in grad school. We had a guest speaker who was talking about demographics and made a statement about there being two African Americans in the classroom (myself and another guy) He raised his hand to correct the speaker and told him he is not African American, he is from Belize. Okay I get it but really you had to raise your hand? Ninja you been here since you were five. Then he kept asking why I wouldn't speak when I saw him. Raising your hand to correct somebody was going too far in the middle of class. The speaker gave him a blank stare and moved on just like the rest of the white people. Once you are here you are an African American. Go figure when I went to Belize they talked that "people from the states think they have a monopoly on being Americans" Make up your mind. 

Assuming he is a US citizen he essentially is African American, "unfortunately" for him. I had a huge thread on this once. They want to have their cake and eat it too.


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