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    Posted: Mar 26 2014 at 8:04am

Is The Black Bougie Wealthy Class has been just as detrimental to Black empowerment?

 
I say this because after taking consideration that it was not just the wealthy whites who went against The Honorable Marcus Garvey plan for Pan-Africanism but it was really the black elite who feared for their positions. They were the ones who fought the hardest to keep the empowerment of the lower class blacks from ever reaching such a unity. There has never been anytime in black history where we had a powerful movement since Garvey and yet it has been forgotten. We pay more attention to our entertainers and our wealthy black class than our own history and picking up from the pieces of our true emancipation. What strikes me is that Ho Chin Ming used what he learned from Garvey as a poor man and built up his nation and emancipated from colonization. Those same ideals could be our emancipation and to truly lift ourselves up, but you think our bougie class would be the ones to go against it?


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This is a totally real thread by the way. I been thinking about this for a while.
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Has been.
Is being.
Pick one.
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you believe black people are capable of being racist against whites though

...so anything you say is null and void
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OP I'm actually glad you're thinking about this because a lot of sh*t you say comes off as being out of touch with the actual struggle of poor disenfranchised brown people.   I think you should continue to explore the information and history because it might help keep me from cussing you out and calling you a coon on a regular basis. 

LOL Okay who cares what I think but I'm being somewhat serious.  

Its good to remember how Plymouth Rock landed on us and taught us how to treat our own people with disdain in order to convince ourselves that all we need to do is x,y and/or z in order for them to let those of us who are "not like a black person" win. 

And black celebrities aint nothing but niccahs when they fck up.  They go from "not like a normal black person" to a dirty niccah in the blink of an eye. 
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Originally posted by CherryBlossom CherryBlossom wrote:

you believe black people are capable of being racist against whites though

...so anything you say is null and void
 
No, if you have study Marcus Garvey history you would know it was the black elites who feared for their position being eradicated got the help of other white elites to stop Garvey's movement.
 
This is more of a black classism vs white racism(which is the cause) 
 
This is not separationist discussion, but to see if we are heading in the same wrong direction thinking the elite class of blacks will join with the lower classes to help ourselves gain more economical independence
 
 
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Originally posted by Sang Froid Sang Froid wrote:

Has been.
Is being.
Pick one.

Man when I read and say wtf you know its bad....I type like a sober BabyphatLOLLOL
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Originally posted by kfoxx1998 kfoxx1998 wrote:

OP I'm actually glad you're thinking about this because a lot of sh*t you say comes off as being out of touch with the actual struggle of poor disenfranchised brown people.   I think you should continue to explore the information and history because it might help keep me from cussing you out and calling you a coon on a regular basis. 

LOL Okay who cares what I think but I'm being somewhat serious.  

Its good to remember how Plymouth Rock landed on us and taught us how to treat our own people with disdain in order to convince ourselves that all we need to do is x,y and/or z in order for them to let those of us who are "not like a black person" win. 

And black celebrities aint nothing but niccahs when they fck up.  They go from "not like a normal black person" to a dirty niccah in the blink of an eye. 
 
Eh, I been trolling as of late......I haven't said anything really in a while, first real post/comment in a while.
 
But now being serious the causation is that of the European colonization and slavery as well as Jim Crow and other class issues. That is without needing to be said even though some of us don't really understand the history and nature of this. The mulatto class was pushed in the late 1800s and early 1900s to control the so called darker negro who was considered inferior and less intelligent. History proves that it was the melaninated people who were always considered the most spiritual, wisest, and most intelligent thanks to the surviving records of the Greeks in ancient history.
 
So now we need to look back in this time period and see what was truly going on and what halted our growth besides White Supremacy because it's going to exist until we realize how to stop it as a global front. But until then we need to learn how to correct our internal problems and think of a creative solution our problems. From all aspects to psychological to financial(which we think is the mother of all corrections Sleepy) to a moralistic approach and even if those who beliefs differ on how to work with each other to correct issues. We may not all believe in the same thing, but one thing that needs to be clear is that we really need to work together as a group to further the same problems and issues we face and voting/individualistic wealth/music/religious affiliations are not the answer to our problems, but merely an illusion of a quick fix.
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wow a decent thread
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (3) Thanks(3)   Quote CherryBlossom Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar 26 2014 at 8:56am
I'm well-versed on garvey thank you very much

..you knew exactly what I was saying ajax..you can't say coonish, trolling sh*t one minute and then turn around and give this black empowerment spiel

...makes you look flaky and irreverent 
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