| Printer_Ink wrote:|
| jonesable wrote:|
Printer I can understand some of your points but ?can you see that race wouldn't be a big deal there bc of the homogeneity?
You say the percentage of blacks there is 2.5 percent.
Let's draw some conclusions from that...
Well, I have tried to explain to you .. but there is more to a country that is older than America than I can document on this thread.
The Dutch do not have the SAME history as America .. so why should they have the same percentage of Blacks? Every country is different with their own legacy and problems and guess what? It's not always involving Black people.
I really think you try to make Black people the center of a universe around which ... everything else resolves.
I am out of this thread too.
What a waste.
I find your post interesting. I have a white Dutch friend who has told me about the ghettos where many Surinamese live. Surinam is a former Dutch slave colony- so the history is not that much different than America-albeit more akin to the UK.
Europe is not the holy grail for black folks. I live in one of the most prosperous and stable European countries and the longer I live here, the more I am convinced that there is no future here for my daughter. I find it a problem when I see a college educated black person working at the local pasticierre. I recently saw a Nigerian woman get hauled off by the cops because a white woman shoved her and she shoved her back. The argument was that the white had a baby-the fact that the Nigerian woman was heavily pregnant was lost on everyone.
Europe is not a racial utopia! Yes, there isn't the segregation to the degree as it is in the US but it exists. I just recently read about landlords requesting agents not rent their flats to blacks in the US.
The thing with Switzerland, is that initially all the blacks here were ex-pats so a pretty well-to do population. With the Schenang agreement, the borders have been opened and there are many African drug dealers. This has lead to a change in the attitude towards black people. I think the issue is not so much racial diversity bit racial coupled with economic diversity and criminal activity. I have seen a drastic change attitude in the six years I have lived here.
For the record, I've lived in two European countries and still feel overall America is the better place for a black person-looking at things such as rights and opportunities. I had a good and diverse social group in the US, so the segregation was not an issue for me there. The biggest selling point for Europe was the lack of poverty, but the EU expansion coupled with the flood of refugees from the south is starting to change that. I see racial intolerance rising in the future.