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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov 26 2013 at 11:55am

It's a lot.

 

I could write a book (I am trying) but in general:

 

I have worked in corporate America (IBM, Compact  ... you get the idea) and now in the same work environment in The Netherlands (Holland). Only I do a lot of business travel to Austria, Germany, France, Belgium and The UK.  I have been to other countries too ... just not so much.

 

Okay, people are not blind - they can see I am Black .. only somehow it is not held against me. It's pretty much a positive point in fact.

 

White people are not trying to over busy themselves with actions to demonstrate that they are NOT racist and Black folks are not as 'damaged' as  AA. No to be cruel but AA have the color/hair issue and now with the ‘baby daddy’ issue … well.

 

There is racism here just like it is in every Western country,. Only it is nowhere neaaaaar like what’s in The States. Nowhere near it and if anyone tells you any different .. they’ve got issues. You can see the boggy man everywhere you go .. it you go there looking for it.

 
Geesh if you look at the povery. drug use, babies in foster care, gangs, prison life etc in the Black community today .. MLK would roll over in his grave. But 90% of that crap does not exist over here. When I try to tell people here about the problems in the US .. they pretty much think I am making it up.

 

Of course, the history of Black people in each country is completely different - except for the obvious which is that we all descendants of slaves. No way to get around that .. but how ít's played itself out .. that is so different.

 

But what happened different and the outcome is different today. My point is .. there is a lot .. going on outside of America. More than I could tell you in a post ..,bottom line … you have to be OPEN and not so much blocked or everything you see will get morphed into a racial issue.

Travel and evolve.

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov 26 2013 at 3:29pm
I would live here or Brasil.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov 26 2013 at 3:45pm
Financially? Yes. Best place ever. You can be rich, you can make bank, and anything you do will be relevant and posted in several websites throughout the world.

Tell me how many blacks outside of US have as much money as Jay z or 50Cent?
How many black women out of the US are as richer as Oprah? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov 26 2013 at 3:50pm
Originally posted by Merin Merin wrote:

I would live here or Brasil.


Brasil is not good for black people; there is no black person in Brazil as rich as any black here; blacks are harassed by cops, and most of them live in the slums in the big cities. Watch a soap opera from there and you'll see that the black women are usually housekeepers or maids, they are never given a bigger role, except the girl who played a slave who married a white man (and turned out to be a total bitch). The name of that soap opera is Xica Da Silva, and that slave really existed; theactress was naked on tv at 18.

But on another hand, Zimmerman would have been found guilty over there, not because over 50% of the population is black, but because over there people would find it wrong to kill an unarmed kid.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov 26 2013 at 4:38pm
1. Jamaica

Being around people that look like me is something I really value, especially that are getting it. There are yardies suffering, but they're also driving up to their homes in red hills and beverly hills, diving in their private beaches, owning many (most) businesses. I can see myself doing anything because people that look like me are doing everything. Economy and the social ills that come of it (police culture, violent homophobia etc) aside I'd still be there.

2. Toronto

Just because the economy is better and access to prosperity seems more realistic here. In ja, when I was younger I use to fret over not making it anywhere in life because my moms couldn't afford my hs tuition/board. Here the only I worry about is how I'm going to start paying back OSAP in a 6 month window after school is over. And it's hard to internalize racism here as it's not as overt. There are anti-black/Jamaican sentiments shared here but mostly as a visible minority you just fall into the huger anti-immigrant flow here.

Even though I answered I agree with tatee. I think there are places I might prefer if I lived there for a min and got over the initial culture shock. I have my sights set on Atlanta, Kumasi and panama city after school but I'll see.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov 26 2013 at 4:40pm
Originally posted by OoDles O OoDles O wrote:

.. to be black ... In your opinion ... ?

I'll leave it vague 

*Black=Umbrella term that represents those with direct African Lineage

*America = United States Of America 

absolutely absolutely absolutely not
i actually think it's the worst place to be black...the sh*t y'all deal with on an everyday basis is just beyond me
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov 26 2013 at 4:40pm
The worst place though?

That's that crazy Canada talking.
No sense of context
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov 26 2013 at 5:07pm
Jones shut up

I was just answering the OP's question and it's not shade filled which you obviously feel

I say that because the environment of the US, black ppl are so marginalized....race relations are so deep there. All the threads on here about unfair treatment towards blacks, Trayvon Martin, Renisha McBride, Marissa Alexander, etc...the list goes on and on...I don't see those things happen on such a deep/serious level anywhere else (or I don't hear about them)...and my opinion is obviously biased because I've been on BHM for years and so obviously I'm more attune to what's happening in the US

I actually feel sorry for the black ppl in the US....the loss of your culture from slavery....forced to create a new culture (Black American culture/ down south culture, etc). And the loss of where you really came from

Again I don't say it from a place of shade but a place of I feel sorry for black americans...race relations are deep there

As a canadian, no I don't worry about those type of things (and I'm not proclaiming Canada as SO superior to the US) but race relations are very very different

there's your context (it's an opinion and not a fact sheet, keep that in mind)

and I'm done

eta: i've lived my whole life in canada, spent 4 months in Uganda, 6 months in England, 3 months in LA (and visited various US places), so while I can't say I've lived all over the world, my time spent in these places has opened me up to what it's like to be black there (i still recognize it's a limited perspective which I stated already).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov 26 2013 at 5:14pm
Lol you the one who must feel some type ah way.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov 26 2013 at 5:20pm
Originally posted by jonesable jonesable wrote:

Lol you the one who must feel some type ah way.

no, you were just a hit dog who hollered because you obviously thought I was dissing your precious US

get over yourself

shiit like that annoys me about you so yea I told you to shut up and gave you your "context"...happy?
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