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Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:


do yall not know some mothers that were able to "do it all" so to speak?


I'm wondering because the way they speak women who are childless rule the workplace. At this stage in my career not having kids was actually a disadvantage because in mixed company with the males kids and what they're doing dominate the chit chat (men still revert to sports when there are no women around). While they are talking little league and soccer, I'm like ummmmm..that's cute, super awkward.
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I work two jobs by choice until i retire in the next few years . God bless me with a wonderful Husband and Father . We have our days that i want to quit both jobs , but i am bless to to work at the Hospital and my daughter school as the nurse PT . Nothing is easy rasing a child . I try to enjoy each moment no matter what . Children grow so fast . I only read the last page since last night. My husband never goes out or leaves our daughter to party like back in the day before India . Maybe that's the reason we are ok at our age with a young child .   



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I haven't had my nails done since high school, I rarely get my hair done just trying to figure out how to style my hair myself because I'd never place that over any of my childs needs, its crazy
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Originally posted by rickysrose rickysrose wrote:

Ok maysay I must have misunderstood because in other threads you spoke of actively working against parenting in poverty

And that you focus your attention/time/resources on "preventing" parenting in poverty because you care about that much more strongly than say fair wages for women




There are 2 types of parenting "in poverty". 1) I have no way to take care of my children but through government programs and community/family handouts and can't provide basics like safety and 2)my income is below or near the poverty line but I provide everything my children need without outside help.

I am totally against 1. And because I am against it I am FOR other things like: universal healthcare (and birth control), universal education, good public transportation, an automatic basic income for all adults, etc. Because by giving people these things automatically they are more likely to be well adjusted and successful and therefore less likely to be parenting in poverty.
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Originally posted by maysay1 maysay1 wrote:

Originally posted by rickysrose rickysrose wrote:

Ok maysay I must have misunderstood because in other threads you spoke of actively working against parenting in poverty

And that you focus your attention/time/resources on "preventing" parenting in poverty because you care about that much more strongly than say fair wages for women




There are 2 types of parenting "in poverty". 1) I have no way to take care of my children but through government programs and community/family handouts and can't provide basics like safety and 2)my income is below or near the poverty line but I provide everything my children need without outside help.

I am totally against 1. And because I am against it I am FOR other things like: universal healthcare (and birth control), universal education, good public transportation, an automatic basic income for all adults, etc. Because by giving people these things automatically they are more likely to be well adjusted and successful and therefore less likely to be parenting in poverty.

I just can't agree with anything you're saying.
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Originally posted by Bribby Bribby wrote:

Originally posted by maysay1 maysay1 wrote:

Originally posted by rickysrose rickysrose wrote:

Ok maysay I must have misunderstood because in other threads you spoke of actively working against parenting in poverty

And that you focus your attention/time/resources on "preventing" parenting in poverty because you care about that much more strongly than say fair wages for women




There are 2 types of parenting "in poverty". 1) I have no way to take care of my children but through government programs and community/family handouts and can't provide basics like safety and 2)my income is below or near the poverty line but I provide everything my children need without outside help.

I am totally against 1. And because I am against it I am FOR other things like: universal healthcare (and birth control), universal education, good public transportation, an automatic basic income for all adults, etc. Because by giving people these things automatically they are more likely to be well adjusted and successful and therefore less likely to be parenting in poverty.

I just can't agree with anything you're saying.


So you can't agree with universal healthcare and education and things like that? ok then.
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Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:


everything they need up to what point?  you are talking about the basic needs I am assuming


Yes, basic needs. Not wants/luxuries.

You have one family below the poverty line and they have to depend on WIC, daycare subsidies, free breakfast/lunch program, section 8, medicaid, and having family members provide things like diapers or whatever.

Then you have another family below the poverty line but they own their own home, feed their own kids, pay their own health insurance, etc.

I have a problem with people bringing children into a situation like number 1. I think there are societal changes we can make that makes that choice much less likely, or if it happens, much less detrimental to the child.
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Damn, now getting reduced lunch at school throws you into the bad parent category.

I smell a really false dichotomy.
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I am for things like that, they're just not in the US near future.

How is WIC, free breakfast, medicaid detrimental to a child?

Almost any pregnant woman can get on medicaid, that's awesome do you know how much it cost to have a child?
Do you know how it's detrimental for a family to NOT be able to take their child to the hospital because they just cant afford it, what if that child dies, when they could be on medicaid.

I think it depends on the people raising the child, not the HELP out there that IS needed.

WIC anybody can get that as well.. 

There are family below poverty line but above being able to get help, how about them..
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What if there is a family that sends their kids to daycare, has their kids get reduced lunch, gets hand-me-downs from family but also owns their own home, and pays for their own health insurance.

Which category do they fall in? 1 or 2?
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