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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun 19 2008 at 7:30pm
Originally posted by coconutmilk coconutmilk wrote:

Originally posted by Star007 Star007 wrote:

so I'm at the sub shop across the street from my campus and these two older black men pull up in their Benz, they stand in line right behind me and immediately start trying to talk to me "Why you look so mean?" "What we did to you" then the other one says "That some nice hair on yo head" the other one says "that aint her hair that's a weave", I'm just trying to put my order in and get my food (I'm 15 weeks pregnant so I MUST eat, lol). then one of them asks me "where you from?" I respond "Dominican Republic" and then he says "I aint never seen a black dominican" I was like "REALLY? wow." I didnt know that dominicans were supposed to look a different way, last time I checked being dominican was a NATIONALITY, not a COLOR. If you've ever visited the DR you'll see people of all colors, from charcoal black to pasty white and everything in between. lol.

 
 
You  should  have  told  them  that  your  hair  is  none  of  their  business  or  their  preceived  license  to  discuss  it  in  front  of  you.  But  that's  besides  the  point.  At  my  last  job,  I  did  work  with  a  guy  who  is  Dominican;  but  by  birth  there;  he  wasn't  a  first-generation  American.   He  denied  being  black  as  well,  although  anyone  with  both  their  eyes  functioning  properly  could  tell   that  he  is.   He  is  darker  than  me  and  appears  to  have  the  same  afro-ish  textured  hair  like  mine;  the  only difference    is  that  he  has  finer  features  and  yet  he  still  denied  his  African  ancestry  and  just  only  mentioned  his  Spanish  or  Spaniard  ancestors. ConfusedConfusedConfusedConfused  That's  what  turned  me  off  about  this  person.   I'm  proud  of  being  black  and  wouldn't  want  to  trade  race  if  I  could  because  I  wouldn't  be  me.  So  naturally,  I  have  no  tolerance  with  someone  who  outright  denies  their  African  blood,  even  if  they're  bi-racial/ muti-racial.  If  I  were  to  date  a  Dominican,  Cuban,  Puerto  Rican,  Honduran,  Nicaraguan,  or  Colombian  or  whatever  who  was  clearly  black  and  yet  denied  it,  then  I  would  have  to  re-evaluate  our  relationship  because  I  embrace  my  blackness  and  I  don't  have  the  time  nor  the  energy  to  deal  with  self-hatred;  I  might  be  patient  up  to  a  point;  although,  I  wouldn't  know  how  much  longer.
 
 
 
 
If you were to call anyone in my Cuban family "Black" it would be like throwing a pot of hot grits on them.
 
My mother is the black sheep of the family because she isnt in denial like the rest of the family.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun 19 2008 at 7:31pm
^^^^that is so funny.....yrs ago I worked w/ a girl who was BLACK Guyanese .......she swear she is Indian but I look more Indian than her so I was likeErmm....I know she has Indian background but it's NOT as apparent as she liked to think it was.....she always wore her relaxed hair out and acted like it was so long and flowing.....it was bout shoulder length and not like really bouncy or anything, my hair was longer than hers  and I consider myself Black.....then she said she will not have a child w/ a black man.....that took the cakeLOL but I don't blame her considering she is from a nice area where there aren't many blacks and the black men that were at that job were nothing to write home about....but she had a complex for real

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun 19 2008 at 7:41pm
Originally posted by socophoenix socophoenix wrote:

soy dominicana*raises hand*

but only 1/2 of the way, if someone asks, i name all my ethnicities, but since dominican is the predominant one, i generally say that if im asked, but i include myself as black at every chance i get.
as far as looks, my dominican side of the fam ranges from red clay colored(my dad) to jennifer lopez(my aunts) to a beautiful caramel complexion(me, sis, cousins)

everything is a variety, and to think otherwise is so ignorant


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun 19 2008 at 7:45pm
Originally posted by Zupreme Zupreme wrote:

coconutmilk, unfortch that denial is passed on as part of the culture....its extremely hard to shake for most folks...no justification but when when you grow up in a world where EVERYONE shares that sentiment its harder to really understand how wrong it is...'

eta: unlike in the u.s., over there, there hasnt ever been a "black pride" movement. its completely absent...in fact the histroy books dont even mention slavery as if it never happened. its a totally different mindset...
 
 
It's  understandable.  Yet  I'm  sure  before  the  "black  pride"  movement  black  people  still  knew  who  they  were;  although,  they  probably  wished  they  could  erase  their  black  skin.  It's  interesting  about  the  history  books  though.   I  never  knew  that;   so  that's  why  Pedro (the  Dominican  guy  I  mentioned  earlier)  is  rejects  being  black;  then  that  makes  sense  if  all  you're  taught  and  told  about  is  the  European  and/or  Taino/Arawak  heritages.   I  saw  a  documentary  on  PBS  a  few  years  ago  about  the  Dominican  Republic.   I  saw  bits  and  pieces  of  it.   I  remember  they  had  this  one  man  saying  that  Dominicans  aren't  black;  and  also  mentioned  that  their  western  neighbor: Haiti  and  the  inhabitants:  the  Haitians  are  black  and  that  they  don't  want  to  be  assocaiated  with  them.  Inside  I  was  ConfusedConfusedConfused.  Especially  when  this  man  had  the  skin  tone  of  a  coffee  bean,  african  features,  and  kinky  hair.  He  looked  just  like  his  neighbors  to  the  west.   Also,  it  showed  a  fair-skinned,  European-looking  Dominican  woman  and  her  black,  dark-skinned  Dominican  husband  state  that  how  her  family  didn't  approve  of  their  relationship  because  of  how  dark  he  is;  and  yet  despite  the  fact  of  her  family's  disapproval,  she  married  the  man  that  she  fell  in  love  with.  They  had  a  beautiful  daughter  and  she  was  the  beautiful  combination  skin  hue  of  both  her  parents.   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun 19 2008 at 7:54pm
Originally posted by Roro Roro wrote:

i think it's based on media as well....bc 1/2 of Cuba is black nappy headed people(yes I said it LOL)...but all u see is white cubans etc......I saw a black nicaraguan and columbian working in the same pizza shop, i was surprised bc i never see the black ones even tho i know they exist..........people would be surprised to see DJ Waggy T who has the heaviest Jamaican accent [IMG]http://www.cautionatlanta.com/images/waggyt.jpg" />



Proud BLACK COLOMBIAN RAISES HAND. La tierra de mi corazon!!!

Yes, we exist and it amazes me that people are so ignorant, there is either Mexican, Mexican, or did I say Mexican....that all people can relate to here in Los Angeles. Hmmm, I think I forgot to mention, Mexican. When Los Angeles Latinos see me speaking Spanish they're like what the freak! Where do you learn....like duh, learn your history baby, we come in all shades/hues, heights, eye color, etc. There is a whole continent made up of 13 different countries - South America - that has a rich history of diversity!

It must be an LA thing, cuz' in New York, most people don't even bat an eye when I'm speaking Spanish......

Yup, lots of people were asleep during history and geography class.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun 19 2008 at 11:00pm
Originally posted by Brittini Brittini wrote:

Never seen a black dominican? Where was this sub shop, under a rock somewhereConfused???
 
lmao. Nope, North Miami. i think they live under a rock though
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun 20 2008 at 2:23am
Originally posted by Afrikana Afrikana wrote:

Originally posted by uppitynegroid uppitynegroid wrote:

That's funny because all the Dominicans I know are black. 
 
same most  i know either look black or part black, you know what though, ive never ran into a white looking dominican lol
 
Me either. I kinda always thought they were all black. Oops!Embarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun 20 2008 at 6:21am
Originally posted by coconutmilk coconutmilk wrote:

Originally posted by Zupreme Zupreme wrote:

coconutmilk, unfortch that denial is passed on as part of the culture....its extremely hard to shake for most folks...no justification but when when you grow up in a world where EVERYONE shares that sentiment its harder to really understand how wrong it is...'

eta: unlike in the u.s., over there, there hasnt ever been a "black pride" movement. its completely absent...in fact the histroy books dont even mention slavery as if it never happened. its a totally different mindset...
 
 
It's  understandable.  Yet  I'm  sure  before  the  "black  pride"  movement  black  people  still  knew  who  they  were;  although,  they  probably  wished  they  could  erase  their  black  skin.  It's  interesting  about  the  history  books  though.   I  never  knew  that;   so  that's  why  Pedro (the  Dominican  guy  I  mentioned  earlier)  is  rejects  being  black;  then  that  makes  sense  if  all  you're  taught  and  told  about  is  the  European  and/or  Taino/Arawak  heritages.   I  saw  a  documentary  on  PBS  a  few  years  ago  about  the  Dominican  Republic.   I  saw  bits  and  pieces  of  it.   I  remember  they  had  this  one  man  saying  that  Dominicans  aren't  black;  and  also  mentioned  that  their  western  neighbor: Haiti  and  the  inhabitants:  the  Haitians  are  black  and  that  they  don't  want  to  be  assocaiated  with  them.  Inside  I  was  ConfusedConfusedConfused.  Especially  when  this  man  had  the  skin  tone  of  a  coffee  bean,  african  features,  and  kinky  hair.  He  looked  just  like  his  neighbors  to  the  west.   Also,  it  showed  a  fair-skinned,  European-looking  Dominican  woman  and  her  black,  dark-skinned  Dominican  husband  state  that  how  her  family  didn't  approve  of  their  relationship  because  of  how  dark  he  is;  and  yet  despite  the  fact  of  her  family's  disapproval,  she  married  the  man  that  she  fell  in  love  with.  They  had  a  beautiful  daughter  and  she  was  the  beautiful  combination  skin  hue  of  both  her  parents.   


Yes, very sad indeed also reason of a lot of tensions between the 2 nations. Haiti is one of the (if not the) Caribbean country who is more near its African roots. Haitians (like almost all the other Caribbean nations - thanks to the slavery era.........) have a lot of color complex issues too but the celebration of our African roots is still something made on a daily basis (in the language, in the food, in the way of combing, dressing etc...). Now, imagine a Eurocentric Caribbean country neighbor of a Afrocentric Caribbean country... It makes sparkles, a lot of......Ouch

Usually when a Dominican is Black, they say he/she is Haitian (ans it is not a good thing.... I remember at my hairdresser, a Dominican woman (straight from the island) was telling the others how Haitian her daughter-in-law looked, she was calling her a Congo (and I know it is VERY bad to be called that by a Dominican), that she must have made some voodoo to have her son, which proves that she was of Haitian-descent, the girl was Dominican but dark with kinky hair and the mom disapproved her son's choice...And for the record, the woman was  also Black (imo) just loose-curly hair and a honey-colored skin.

My hairdresser was trying to cool everything down (because almost all of her clients are Haitians), I felt sad and sorry for the woman and her derogatory comments..... Ouch

In their head, they can't be Black. Like Z. said, if they never learned about slavery in their history books, it is normal that they can't add up why some of them are Black so they conclude by saying that it is because of some Haitian blood....

Very sad. Being Black is such NOT a bad thing and Black Dominicans are SOOOO PRETTY on the top of it, I can't believe they are not celebrated in their nation.

 *smh*
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun 20 2008 at 5:44pm
One of my co-workers is black dominican and her name is Sonja. She is such a sweetie she bought me lunch today.Big%20smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun 20 2008 at 5:56pm
They are something ignorant.
 
 
They shouldn't be pulling up to young ladies in cars like that anyways. Not  with all the crazies out there. That's dangerous.


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