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SL...i didn't struggle
For many reasons.
But first off some come here illegal and that is their biggest problem. Talking about Jamaicans. So being illegal prohibits them acquiring good jobs... good insurance K...Medicaid(if u have a child in the us ...u will get wic.ebt...housing from the government). But the people I know come here for school(student visas)...(can't apply financial help because of their status). They are given limited grants and very few qualify for scholarships
they can get student loans but have to have someone to sign for them.
U have others who come and just interested in material things...so do whatever they must to acquire these things( use u all imagination). So yes some immigrants do compare especially if they can't get certain amenities from the state.
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being american born does not automatically equal wealth and being well educated
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thanks for the replies ladies
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Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:


being american born does not automatically equal wealth and being well educated

I know this...but many come with the idea that Americans have it easier than people in their homeland.
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No problem SL
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Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:


being american born does not automatically equal wealth and being well educated


true, but I guess its part of the American dream mindset... some foreigners will believe that Americans have better access to education and therefore eventually wealth...

My relatives, from the countryside in Jamaica would have to walk upwards of 6 miles back and forth to school daily... when taxis first started running, no lie you would have in excess of 10 people in a regular 5 seater car...

when they compare the conditions they went through, just to GET to school, and then see how easy it is for kids in the US to GET to school... their next comment is they can't understand why these kids would act up in school not taking advantage of the easy access to education etc...

I guess the short answer is, they don't understand the struggles of african americans to an extent, due in part to the lack of common experience...

I only speak for my family, i appreciate other peoples experiences are likely different...

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great insight

I wish we would all take time to learn more about each others' history and expectations

it could bridge the gap
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Originally posted by JamCaygirl JamCaygirl wrote:

Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:


do the ones that come over and struggle see any parallels between their struggle and the struggle of american blacks?

yes the history is different and obviously coming here was a choice american blacks did not have, but do they take any of what they are going through into consideration when they make comparisons


can't speak for all, but I know some of my relatives just expect the struggle as part and parcel of being a first generation immigrant...

They don't understand why american blacks who have had the "benefit" of being born and raised in the US and are documented citizens don't do better for themselves...

They certainly do not expect their American born children to struggle the way they did...

I can't answer SL, i dont ask them abut that. But i don't know any one who is really struggling. My coworker just land, my aunt who migrated this January is earning a decent salary.

Look oonu (y'all) send the people them the "farin things" and money and stop gwaan (acting) mean!!LOLLOL Y'all earning in USD!
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Originally posted by SamoneLenior SamoneLenior wrote:


great insight

I wish we would all take time to learn more about each others' history and expectations

it could bridge the gap

That's what BHM is forBig smile

IA with Jamcay. 
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I do SL, very much so

Immigrants understand the struggle even if they don't fully acknowledge it

Many are fleeing similar obstacles like nepotism, corruption (same effects as racism), lack of opportunity, high unemployment, stereotypes ... 

Brja is right about the helping hand not being there and that makes it harder on immigrants to get that start if needed


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