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    Posted: Mar 22 2013 at 1:03pm
Is it a child protection issue? I was reading this on another forum and just think the father has NO sense.

Just to explain, the father has access via the courts so the mother can't just remove her child from the situation without breaking the court order. Also the child in the thread has selective mutism, so would not be able to communicate with Social workers etc. The mother legally cannot stop her daughter sleeping over at the father's house. The father does not see a problem with the current arrangement and has refused to change the sleeping arrangements.  

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My Daughter is only just 5. She sees her father every other weekend. He has a girlfriend who has a ten year old brother who often sleeps over when DD is there. Her father bought a bunk bed for her room with a double bed on the bottom, which she says they usually share. There is another spare room in the house so no need for them to share rooms let alone beds IMO. She spoke about his 'bits pointing up' when he woke last week and I feel very uncomfortable about them sharing a bed/room. What to do? 
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So the father sees nothing wrong with his little daughter sleeping in the bed with a 10 year old that gets erections? WTF
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She needs to try to talk to the father about this, and the mother of the boy.
this is ridiculous. 

WTF, the father won't change the sleeping arrangements? Go to the courts, file a complaint then. 


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Children's services period point blank.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote laceyfront Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar 22 2013 at 1:17pm
Also she is going to be getting finngad very soon if something is not done, that little boy's hormones are about to be ragging.
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I wish this was someone OP knew and not just on another forum. I have so many things to say and ask.
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More from the mother:

I've told him I'm not happy before, he insists that as he knows the boy and I don't it's up to him to judge.

AIBU to say they should sleep in separate rooms altogether? Although they'd still watch films in bed together which also worries me as ex lets her watch the boys choice of film - usually transformers - which is a bit sexy ( not to mention scary!)

But surely if I stopped contact and it went to court he could just lie and say they have separate rooms and make me out to be a contact blocker? DD has selective mutism and would never in a million years speak to CAFCASS or anyone.

That's the thing - she has selective mutism so doesn't talk at school which makes it easy for him to say I'm lying.

I completely agree that it must stop but I do feel he'll just lie and continue doing as he pleases. In which case what do I do when DD won't confirm what I've said and may even deny it if dad tells her she'd be stopped from seeing the boy.

I will speak to children's services, thank you. 
DD has always had an issue with who she speaks to - there's only 5 people she speaks to. She went her entire time at nursery without talking to an adult once and now at primary will read words to teacher but doesn't speak to any adults or children. It's only this past fortnight the teacher has acknowledged there's an issue and the SENCO has become involved.
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contact the father, the mother, the courts (that decided the custody arrangement)

make sure the daughter is aware of her autonomy over her body and what bad touches are and that no matter who the abuser is or what he/she says, she should tell her mother ... even if the mother has to seek the help of a professional to communicate this


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if they know she has selective mutism then that should not be a problem
she needs to go to court or at least threaten the father with it
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Why not just videotape the child.
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