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Honestly, it all depends on the type of music you're trying to do, and what age group you're trying to appeal to (sometimes).
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Originally posted by modelbusiness82 modelbusiness82 wrote:

Originally posted by princesshoneybee princesshoneybee wrote:

Originally posted by modelbusiness82 modelbusiness82 wrote:

What kind of music are you trying to do? Sorry I didn't read all 9 pages.

I would say you're fine...unless you're going for the Bieber/Mindless Behavior demo...
 

I want to be an entertainer, I am not necessarily going for having the best vocals. I've been dancing since 13 and I think I'm pretty good. My voice is decent but I have a little way to go.


It's good that you're honest. But you need to be more than decent to do well in this industry. It's not about being the best dancer or singer, but having the passion for it. Whether you're infront of the screen or behind the scenes like me, if you don't have the drive, you won't make it.

IMO, figure out what genre you want to be in. Because not all genres get the same love from labels...but some can mean more money in the long run (i.e. dance/house - true house not just David Geutta style - can give you more money & more performance opportunities overall vs being a traditional r&b/pop artist) or give you more staying power.

Until you lock down the style you're going for, you're chasing rainbows with this.
 

Can I ask you about music production? What is a reasonable price for a producer? Do they produce per song or do I need a whole ablum to get the songs produced?
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Altho I will also add...it's ok to be versatile as it can work out for you as well. But in the beginning, ppl need to know exactly what it is you're trying to be. Open format works for DJs lol...not for singers. ;-)
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Originally posted by wuts-rly-good wuts-rly-good wrote:

Originally posted by Jewelsnyc Jewelsnyc wrote:

Understand..

...I like that you have a plan and have created a niche for yourself...you will definitely get to where you want to be if you can provide a service.

Have you worked at all with people from the A? If so have you heard of Verse, Rock City or Sham AKA Sak Pase? Verse is now an artist, but he and Sak Pase used to produce. Rock City are writers for any major artist you can name...and Sak Pase produced Man Down on Rihanna last album...The industry is a crazy place, but with perseverance & talent..you can get in...



i heard of them,havent worked with them yet.i connected and deal with a few ppl from the A but i havent been out there since last year on business.a couple of my ppls up here that i worked with in nyc went down there to work at other music companies and they are doing their thing.I plan on going down there 2013 and stay for a minute to do business
Well I wish you success my Brother. I haven't been in music since I left Atlanta. I love those guys, they're like my family...but I can't sacrifice my children for a dream...ya feel me? I miss it, but I gotta look out for my family, and it takes too much of my personal time.


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are you good looking?
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princess...what major city are you from or nearest?
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Originally posted by princesshoneybee princesshoneybee wrote:

Originally posted by modelbusiness82 modelbusiness82 wrote:

Originally posted by princesshoneybee princesshoneybee wrote:

Originally posted by modelbusiness82 modelbusiness82 wrote:

What kind of music are you trying to do? Sorry I didn't read all 9 pages.

I would say you're fine...unless you're going for the Bieber/Mindless Behavior demo...
 

I want to be an entertainer, I am not necessarily going for having the best vocals. I've been dancing since 13 and I think I'm pretty good. My voice is decent but I have a little way to go.


It's good that you're honest. But you need to be more than decent to do well in this industry. It's not about being the best dancer or singer, but having the passion for it. Whether you're infront of the screen or behind the scenes like me, if you don't have the drive, you won't make it.

IMO, figure out what genre you want to be in. Because not all genres get the same love from labels...but some can mean more money in the long run (i.e. dance/house - true house not just David Geutta style - can give you more money & more performance opportunities overall vs being a traditional r&b/pop artist) or give you more staying power.

Until you lock down the style you're going for, you're chasing rainbows with this.
 

Can I ask you about music production? What is a reasonable price for a producer? Do they produce per song or do I need a whole ablum to get the songs produced?


Well producers can work on a per track basis. And honestly cost varies by quality of production team as well as what you negotiate. Some will agree to work on spec in return for a share of the profits earned - even if that includes you getting a signing bonus etc. Some will require upfront payment only.

One isn't necessarily better than the other, but keep in mind that if you split profits with someone, then they're going to be splitting those profits with you for the life of the song. So, you'll have this "silent" partner with you forever. Sometimes, it's best to pay up front and maintain 100% ownership of the song. But again, certain circumstances may require you to deal with things in different ways.

Also keep in mind, you need at least 4 - 5 songs for most outlets to take you seriously. Even if you're releasing them one at a time, no one wants you to come to them with only 1 track under your belt.
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Music production depends on the producer and studio...no one can you give you an exact price. I would say tho your best bet is to get someone who is doing it from home, just starting out. They'll be waay more lenient on the cost, production of course won't be the same, but it is the cheaper route.

Also,  if you've never been in a studio, it takes time to just get comfortable and it's an hourly rate typically...that cost will run up very quickly. 
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Originally posted by Babydoll9163 Babydoll9163 wrote:

It's difficult at any age but once you hit 35+ it's very difficult to break into mainstream.

I think there should always be a plan b/"real job" on a person's radar. You can go to school/work while practicing your craft.
What about Tamar is 35, and she has number 1 hit on itunes!
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Originally posted by Jr1127 Jr1127 wrote:

Originally posted by Babydoll9163 Babydoll9163 wrote:

It's difficult at any age but once you hit 35+ it's very difficult to break into mainstream.

I think there should always be a plan b/"real job" on a person's radar. You can go to school/work while practicing your craft.
What about Tamar is 35, and she has number 1 hit on itunes!


Tamar's hubby is a record producer. And she got that hit song AFTER being on Braxton Family Values & having her own show.

Kim Z of RHOA also had a hit track - AFTER being on a big show. Anyone can have a hit after laying the ground work with PR etc.
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