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Originally posted by BoutThatLife BoutThatLife wrote:

She actually does look like she has indian in her blood. No offense, but those of you saying she doesnt are not AA and probably wouldnt know what an aa/indian mix look like. them black indians in the caribbean arent even mixed with the same kind of indian that tina is so of course they gone look different.

the indian people i am speaking of are mixed with Indians from India and BLACK from Africa

the other black person i know mixed w/Indian [has his lil NA card from his tribe] is also from a family heavily mixed with white so idk if he counts but he just looks like a regular high yella man. he;s shown me other pics of his family members and they look white or black.

legit the 2 black girls mixed who are 1/2 indian don't have a "look." one has a sister who looks regular black...the brother looks KINDA mixed.


i think coolies have more of a LOOK bc it's generations of mixing

oh wait--i know one girl who looks like Vashtie but it's strange bc she has a twin who does not look mixed with a dayum thing.

in conclusion: indian genes are kinda weak

and NA didnt really really fvcks w/the number of AAs as blacks like to claim in order to have "indian" in their family. i was speaking to someone about this recently and we concluded that a lot of what blacks claim as Indian is likely white ancestry.  It might have been less painful to admit that the mixed child was Indian as opposed to a product of rape.  This is what happened in that girls family. It's not until generations later they learned great grandma wasn't Indian but the massa's child.


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Originally posted by BoutThatLife BoutThatLife wrote:

She actually does look like she has indian in her blood. No offense, but those of you saying she doesnt are not AA and probably wouldnt know what an aa/indian mix look like. them black indians in the caribbean arent even mixed with the same kind of indian that tina is so of course they gone look different.


<<-----Central American background so I know what Native Americans, and mestizo's look like...


Native American = indigenous, NA is just the American name for them...


Indigenous ppl weren't only in North America, they were in south and central america too


   There are/were multiple tribes of Indigenous ppl in America that dont/didnt even look alike and blacks don't even seem to realize that hence the same typical descriptions them...Everybody somehow got that great great great gramma/granpa that was small, with high cheekbones and super long hair... Basically a picture description
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Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

LOL. I know I'm going to offend some people by what I'm about to say but some AAs are incredibly delusional on this topic, thinking that they have this specific phenotype that is unique to them and that sets them apart from just about every other black ethnic group on the planet. I actually believe this is part of the indoctrination of self-hatred and some of the most aware people in other aspects continue to carry that with them...
 
Tina looks like a black woman with some white ancestry, as is the case for many other black ethnic groups that have been significantly impacted by colonialism and slavery. But if one wants to continue to think that this indian blood of which she possesses, what 1%, defines her appearance, then go on right ahead. Lol

Some AAs actually happen to have other admixture than besides plain ol white. Why are some people so invested in stamping out this fact? Indians used to inhabit this entire country, their genetics didnt just disappear into thin air. they got absorbed into mainstream society, some of which include black folks
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Originally posted by BoutThatLife BoutThatLife wrote:

Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

LOL. I know I'm going to offend some people by what I'm about to say but some AAs are incredibly delusional on this topic, thinking that they have this specific phenotype that is unique to them and that sets them apart from just about every other black ethnic group on the planet. I actually believe this is part of the indoctrination of self-hatred and some of the most aware people in other aspects continue to carry that with them...
 
Tina looks like a black woman with some white ancestry, as is the case for many other black ethnic groups that have been significantly impacted by colonialism and slavery. But if one wants to continue to think that this indian blood of which she possesses, what 1%, defines her appearance, then go on right ahead. Lol

Some AAs actually happen to have other admixture than besides plain ol white. Why are some people so invested in stamping out this fact? Indians used to inhabit this entire country, their genetics didnt just disappear into thin air. they got absorbed into mainstream society, some of which include black folks
 
LOL, we've had this conversation so many times before on BHM and it always end up the same. I can assure you that if one were to dress Miss Tina a certain way and give her a specific accent, that she could easily pass as say, jamaican, haitian, dominican, cuban, or half camerounese, half white. You just don't want to hear that though because you have been raised to think of certain groups in stereotypical ways. I go to the States often and have AA relatives by marriage. I can assure you that a lot of the blacks that I see in the street can easily look like another culture if you change the wrapping and the verbiage. But some people have an internal resistance to that context. * Shrug*
 
Even all these shows on DNA and ancestry show you that the % of indian blood in the AA population is grossly overestimated most of the time. It's the same phenomenon as in say, the DR, where people are convinced that they have all this taino blood, when the % is in reality minimal because most of the tainos where wiped out before slavery was in full effect. A lot of this is psychological


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Originally posted by BoutThatLife BoutThatLife wrote:

Originally posted by Limalady Limalady wrote:

Originally posted by BoutThatLife BoutThatLife wrote:

She actually does look like she has indian in her blood. No offense, but those of you saying she doesnt are not AA and probably wouldnt know what an aa/indian mix look like. them black indians in the caribbean arent even mixed with the same kind of indian that tina is so of course they gone look different.
 
Who do you know with Indian in their bloodline? Prof. Gates stated that only 5% of the Black population have it. All of the people they tested on the special had minimal Indian in their bloodline, so what does a person with Indian in their bloodline look like?

How can he test every single black person?

How is it that blacks have all this white blood, and whites have all this indian blood, but the 2 arent connected? 

Some people just have a "look". For example, Lloyd, Royce Reed of BBW MIA, Omarion, Snoop Dogg, TI, Redd Foxx
 
I see. Royce Reed and Snoop Dogg have a look. Ok.

Well they didn't test all the Black people. His hypothesis was based on the number of slaves and the number of Native Americans at their peek population density. Then he looked at the number of AAs that lived on reservations, and made a hypothesis (taking into account a margin of error) that accounted for the access that slaves had to Native Americans. Based on that data, he made a projection of likelihood of Native American ancestry in most AAs. 

Now Whites on the other hand, had extensive access to slaves, and actually benefited from procreating with them. Hence, the suggestion that AAs are likely to have a large amount of White ancestry and the minimal amount of Native American ancestry.
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oh wait--i know one girl who looks like Vashtie but it's strange bc she has a twin who does not look mixed with a dayum thing.

in conclusion: indian genes are kinda weak



  I dont think they are weak....I think they just mesh well....Sheit Indians and African look alike if you really pay attention to their features...
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Originally posted by Lilnicka4u2nv Lilnicka4u2nv wrote:

Originally posted by BoutThatLife BoutThatLife wrote:

She actually does look like she has indian in her blood. No offense, but those of you saying she doesnt are not AA and probably wouldnt know what an aa/indian mix look like. them black indians in the caribbean arent even mixed with the same kind of indian that tina is so of course they gone look different.


<<-----Central American background so I know what Native Americans, and mestizo's look like...


Native American = indigenous, NA is just the American name for them...


Indigenous ppl weren't only in North America, they were in south and central america too


   There are/were multiple tribes of Indigenous ppl in America that dont/didnt even look alike and blacks don't even seem to realize that hence the same typical descriptions them...Everybody somehow got that great great great gramma/granpa that was small, with high cheekbones and super long hair... Basically a picture description

How you gone tell people what they're mixed with? You cant DNA test every person who makes that claim.  I think the whole resistance to this is just based on feelings.  Nobody bats an eye at the pale skinned mixed almost white looking person claiming just black, but let an AA mention looking like an indian anything and here come the discreditors.  Not all indians look alike but certain tribes intermingled with black folk more in certain areas of the US.  Early america was mainly whites, blacks, and indians in the same area. how are people saying they did not mix?
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are we discrediting her mixedness? i didn't think that's what was happening. isn't she a 1/3 white?
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My girl Makeda is NA and black (papers and all)

why she no look like Tina?



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Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

Originally posted by BoutThatLife BoutThatLife wrote:

Originally posted by JoliePoufiasse JoliePoufiasse wrote:

LOL. I know I'm going to offend some people by what I'm about to say but some AAs are incredibly delusional on this topic, thinking that they have this specific phenotype that is unique to them and that sets them apart from just about every other black ethnic group on the planet. I actually believe this is part of the indoctrination of self-hatred and some of the most aware people in other aspects continue to carry that with them...
 
Tina looks like a black woman with some white ancestry, as is the case for many other black ethnic groups that have been significantly impacted by colonialism and slavery. But if one wants to continue to think that this indian blood of which she possesses, what 1%, defines her appearance, then go on right ahead. Lol

Some AAs actually happen to have other admixture than besides plain ol white. Why are some people so invested in stamping out this fact? Indians used to inhabit this entire country, their genetics didnt just disappear into thin air. they got absorbed into mainstream society, some of which include black folks
 
LOL, we've had this conversation so many times before on BHM and it always end up the same. I can assure you that if one were to dress Miss Tina a certain way and give her a specific accent, that she could easily pass as say, jamaican, haitian, dominican, cuban, or half camerounese, half white. You just don't want to hear that though because you have been raised to think of certain groups in stereotypical ways. I go to the States often and have AA relatives by marriage. I can assure you that a lot of the blacks that I see in the street can easily look like another culture if you change the wrapping and the verbiage. But some people have an internal resistance to that context. * Shrug*
 
Even all these shows on DNA and ancestry show you that the % of indian blood in the AA population is grossly overestimated most of the time. It's the same phenomenon as in say, the DR, where people are convinced that they have all this taino blood, when the % is in reality minimal because most of the tainos where wiped out before slavery was in full effect. A lot of this is psychological

I think its psychological how people like to always beat AAs and dominicans over the head about what they are mixed with. Not everyone in those groups look alike. some look more african than others, and others you can see the mixture.  i have seen some dominican people who look like they are mixed with some type of indian so i wouldnt just say "oh you're just wishing you did" if one said so.  I sho dont wanna offend nobody either but i think some people feel resentment to blacks with admixture and them admitting it.
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