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Originally posted by CherryBlossom CherryBlossom wrote:

I can see this happening..that's how whiteness as a construct operates

same thing happened with the irish, jews and italians 




i see someone readLOL

yeah it wasnt too far long ago that those groups werent considered white.
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I don't think it will be about black vs
White, it will be about European vs. Hispanics.
Black as an "issue" has been marginalized for quite some time. All you have to do is look at the speeches given by thought leaders at the LBJ summit on the civil rights acts.
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Originally posted by melikey melikey wrote:

A lot more Mexicans claim their native American Heritage vs. their European heritage.

I knew some Mexicans quick to claim whatever "Spanish Blood" they can. This type of stuff been happening. Yts wanna increase their numbers and some Latinos wanna rub elbow with the "Man" and shyt on the bottom barrel folks....Blacks.
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Originally posted by Az~Maverick Az~Maverick wrote:

Originally posted by melikey melikey wrote:

A lot more Mexicans claim their native American Heritage vs. their European heritage.


I knew some Mexicans quick to claim whatever "Spanish Blood" they can. This type of stuff been happening. Yts wanna increase their numbers and some Latinos wanna rub elbow with the "Man" and shyt on the bottom barrel folks....Blacks.


That's because they are in the minority. Hispanic culture is extremely strong in this country, in radio, tv, and certain sectors of industry. There are some whitewashed of course, but in my opinion most Hispanics in America have zero desire to assimilate with whites.
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yt folk aint never going to see it that way...
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"I don't think most of the Hispanics who will make up that 28% will consider themselves white at all. 
It's those south Americans who do that the most and their numbers aren't that large."


I agree with this. The vast majority of the Hispanics that come to this country are brown-skinned and look more obviously of Latin or Afro-Hispanic descent than European. And it's not just skin color, it's also their Native American features as well. Unlike so many European immigrants, it's not merely a matter of the next generation being born native American English speakers or simply learning to speak without an accent in order to assimilate into white culture. It would take generations of widespread interracial procreation before a big enough part of the majority would be able to credibly identify as white. Even then, with so many family members who would marry other brown skin folks or black folks, they wouldn't be able to escape their heritage the same way European immigrants did. Couple that with the current political climate, I think it's highly unlikely that Latinos are going to be aligning themselves with white folks. It's more likely that Latinos will continue describing themselves as such and will wind up aligning themselves with black folks both politically and socially. 
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Hispanics the ones I encounter already think they higher on the pole than black and are closer to white than we will ever be. 

I do not see them "aligning" with us they want their own identity , hell some of them want rights & SSI  even though they are here illegally and don't get me started on the anchor babies. 

Hell some of them are already passing for white if they pale enough and a non ethnic sounding name. 
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This is why I always say black people need to start getting married and having more kids...
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When I say "aligning", I'm talking politically. Since politics, and the resulting economic empowerment, is the only way to real power, that's really all that matters to me. Politically speaking, they've already aligned with us. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. 
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I live in a city that's 93% Hispanic. Mexican, that is. The poorest of the poor will vote Republican, even though The GOP usually opposes the causes that benefit them the most. I have had many Mexican Democrats tell me that their own relatives that benefit from Democrat supported programs are "sell outs" and want to be perceived as and accepted by Whites.
 
They are pawns. Plain and simple.
 
Reminds me of the Lyndon Johnson quote about poor and middle class Whites that vote Republican/against their own interests.
 
"If you can convince the lowest White (or Mexican) man he's better than the best colored/Black man , he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him someone to look down on and he'll empty his pockets for you."


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