High school Boys found guilty of rape

Harmonii wrote: Two girls are now being charged for making threats against the victim. Now I believe the state is looking into charging other people as well. Possibly for covering up the crime

Prazol60 wrote: I don't understand how people can defend this. Absolutely disgusting.

I don't either.

Cases like this are horrible for sure, but I do hope people hearing about the case are learning. I hope parents are teaching and kids are listening. When I have sons, this will be yet another thing I'll have to add to the list of things to teach them. It's not enough to see someone being violated and walk away because you're not the one violating them.

I know as a dude, the way we are schooled, and the peer pressure we're around makes us feel like we can't cockblock the homies or play captain save em to girls "that dont wanna be saved." Gotta instil in boys that they are not innocent or free of guilt if they simply walk away from others being violated.

This part really stood out to me.

Addicted19034 wrote: At one point of the night of the incident, Westlake, who was sober, determined that his friend Mark Cole was too drunk to make a 10-minute drive home. At first, Cole refused to turn over his keys, claiming he could operate his Volkswagen Jetta just fine. Westlake was undeterred, though, eventually "tricking" Cole by waiting for him to relax and then forcibly seizing the keys. Yet maybe a half-hour later, Westlake walked in on the girl, sprawled out naked in the middle of a basement floor. To her side was Mays, exposed and slapping his penis on the girl's hip. Behind her was Richmond, who, Westlake said, was violating her with two fingers. Westlake said goodbye to the guys and kept walking. A good friend with his eye on the safety of others just minutes before was suddenly unaware or unsure of what to do – or simply uncaring enough to do anything at all. "Something has gotten in there that said, 'OK, we need to prevent drinking and driving,' " Hanna said. "We need to take it to that level with preventing sexual assault."

Reminds me of the Kitty Genovese case a little bit. The bystander effect part of it.

Rape education needs to be better, because I do think a lot of teens/kids don't recognize non-violent rape as rape when they see it. I didn't have any talks about this kind of stuff when I started going to parties, and while you'd think basic human decency should prevail, I still think it's important to have parent to child talks about these kind of potential situations. 


Edited by Random Thoughts - Mar 19 2013 at 11:16am

journeytolong wrote: Ladybird0724 wrote: got to pg 2 and the victim blaming pissed me off. boys/men need to understand what consent is and what it is not. you cannot consent when you are drunk. period. end of story. doesn't matter what she was wearing, who she was around, she did not consent and that is rape. i give not one sh*t about them being labeled sex offenders. i'm tired of hearing how their lives are "ruined" now...they will still live out their lives fine. support needs to be given to the victim. i hope she moves the fvck out of that town and gets some intense therapy. i wish that the other bystanders was charged. I do not understand how people have taken what I said and turned it into defending the boys. All I was trying to say was she is not completely innocent. But you see and perceive what you want so idgaf, my opinion stays.

she isn't worth it