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Truly heart breaking.
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The constant reference of jahi as "treatment of dead body" bothers me.   


Thanks for updates 510queen

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So the child's death would be preferable to an "unlawful transfer"? Ermm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bekah Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec 30 2013 at 2:41pm
Originally posted by Printer_Ink Printer_Ink wrote:

Brain death?

What is that 20000 brain cells dying each minute? Nooo within a week her brain matter will be mush. :(

Best to let her go and donate her organs to people who would die without her organs.

They need to grieve yes, but at some point ... they will have to snap out of this. The child is gone.
I have to agree with you on this one..  The family just does not want to come to terms with the fact she's gone.
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Hospital won't aid transfer of girl on ventilator

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A California hospital will not let an outside doctor fit a teen declared brain dead with breathing and feeding tubes so she can be safely transferred elsewhere.

OAKLAND, Calif.A California hospital is unwilling to allow an outside doctor to fit a 13-year-old declared brain dead after tonsil surgery with the breathing and feeding tubes that would allow her to be safely transferred to another facility, its lawyer said Tuesday.

Children's Hospital Oakland will not permit the procedures to be performed on its premises because Jahi McMath is legally dead in the view of doctors who have examined her, lawyer Douglas Straus wrote in a letter to the girl's family.

Teen declared brain dead: Jahi McMath

AP Photo: McMath Family and Omari Sealey

Jahi McMath

"Performing medical procedures on the body of a deceased human being is simply not something Children's Hospital can do or ask its staff to assist in doing," he said.

The refusal reversed the position articulated on Monday by a hospital spokesman. He said the hospital would allow a doctor retained by the family to insert a feeding tube and to replace the oral ventilator keeping Jahi's heart beating with a tracheal tube — surgical procedures that would stabilize Jahi if she is moved to a facility willing to keep caring for her.

Christopher Dolan, the lawyer for Jahi's mother, Nailah Winkfield, said he received the news as he tried to confirm the conditions under which the hospital would have allowed a visiting doctor and nail down the long-term care facility that might accept the girl as a patient. Dolan said he has been talking with the New Beginnings Community Center in Medford, N.Y., an outpatient client for people with traumatic brain injuries, and with an unnamed facility in Arizona.

Related: Q&A: Girl's brain death ignites difficult debate

The New York facility didn't immediately return calls seeking comment.

"They're speaking out of both sides of their mouths. They say one thing and we go down that road, and then they say something else," Dolan said of hospital officials. "The hospital said, 'Bring us a doctor' and we said, 'Tell us the conditions' and now, they've wasted a half a day of our time. We don't have much time."

Meanwhile, a state appeals court on Tuesday refused to order the hospital to insert the tubes, saying the issue has to go first to the lower court judge who has ordered the hospital to keep the girl on a ventilator until Jan. 7 pending the family's appeal. The 1st District Court of Appeal said it would consider the issue at a later date, if necessary.

Straus, the hospital's lawyer, reiterated in his letter that the hospital would release the girl's body as soon as her family provided a detailed plan outlining how the move would be accomplished and written permission from the coroner. But he said neither has been submitted.

"No facility has stated, unconditionally or otherwise, that it is prepared to immediately accept Jahi's body," he wrote.

Jahi underwent a tonsillectomy and related procedures at Children's Hospital on Dec. 9 to treat sleep apnea. Her family said she went into cardiac arrest after she started coughing up blood in the recovery room. She was declared brain dead three days later. The hospital then moved to take her off the machines that are keeping her heart and lungs going a few days before Christmas.

Doctors at Children's Hospital and an independent pediatric neurologist from Stanford University have concluded Jahi is brain dead.

Her family, citing religious beliefs and the hope that she will pull through, wants to continue life support. Alameda County Superior Court Judge Evelio Grillo initially ruled that doctors could remove her from the ventilator at 5 p.m. Monday, but two hours before the deadline gave the family another week to find a place to move her.

Straus filed papers on Monday in both the state appeals court and in a federal court where Jahi's mother also has sued. He is opposing the family's request for an emergency order to keep Jahi on a ventilator indefinitely.

"The Superior Court correctly concluded, after three days of hearings and based on uncontroverted evidence, that Ms. McMath is, sadly, deceased," the papers state. "Turning off a ventilator that assists in delivery of oxygen of a dead person causes no irreparable harm — regardless of the parental or religious beliefs of the decedent's family."

The federal court has said it does not plan to act on the request until the case has worked its way through the state courts.

Associated Press writer Channing Joseph contributed to this report.

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Originally posted by liesnalibis liesnalibis wrote:

So the child's death would be preferable to an "unlawful transfer"? Ermm

She's already dead.
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some ppl need to just come to grips with reality & stop all this bullsh*t hope & prayer.
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If I was her mother I would need to pay the person who made this decision a personal visit and place them paws on him.

So what if they feel she is dead, do they then get the right to decide what is best for her as opposed to her own family? Has she now become their personal property?
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Yeah, the child is technically deceased,but why are they putting the family through this? One minute you can transfer her if this...then they turn around and say "nawww, j/k"?? They are really trying to push them into a corner to where they'll have no other choice but to pull. I hope they go on to file a lawsuit against them
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Brain dead girl Jahi McMath released to coroner, mother: hospital

Courtesy Of Mcmath Family / Omari Sealey - AP

Jahi McMath, seen in this undated photo provided by the McMath family and Omari Sealey.

By Henry Austin, NBC News contributor

The body of Jahi McMath, the 13-year-old California girl declared brain dead after suffering complications from routine tonsil surgery, has been released to her mother by coroners, the hospital that had been treating her said in a statement Sunday.

The Eighth-grader was released to the coroner who then released her into the custody of her mother Latasha Winkfield as per court order, Dr. David Durand, Chief of Pediatrics at the Children's Hospital & Research Center Oakland said in a statement. He added that her destination is unknown. 

“Our hearts go out to the family as they grieve for this sad situation and we wish them closure and peace,” he said.

McMath left the hospital in a private ambulance shortly before 8 p.m. on Sunday, Christopher Dolan, her family's attorney, told the Associated Press, although he did not disclose her destination.

She was taken by a critical care team while attached to a ventilator but without a feeding tube, Dolan added.

"It was a very tense situation," Dolan told the AP. "Everybody played by the rules."

McMath underwent a tonsillectomy and other operations to alleviate her sleep apnea on Dec. 9. She began bleeding profusely and went into cardiac arrest shortly after.

The young girl’s family has been in a legal battle with the hospital since doctors declared her brain dead three days after the operation.

The hospital refused to fit her with a feeding tube or a breathing tube that would help stabilize her during a move, saying it was unethical to perform medical procedures on a dead person and she should be disconnected from her ventilator.

Winkfield went to court to stop the machine from being disconnected.

On Friday, a judge ruled that McMath could be transferred under an agreement with Children's Hospital and the girl's mother will be held accountable for developments that could include Jahi going into cardiac arrest.

The Alameda County coroner's office issued a death certificate for the girl Friday but said the document is incomplete because no cause of death has been determined pending an autopsy.

Dolan wouldn't specify where the girl was taken but he said "they are going to care for her, respect her and love her. And they're going to call her Jahi, not 'the body.'"

The Associated Press contributed to this report. 

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