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Brain death?

What is that 20000 brain cells dying each minute? Nooo within a week her brain matter will be mush. :(

Best to let her go and donate her organs to people who would die without her organs.

They need to grieve yes, but at some point ... they will have to snap out of this. The child is gone.
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Originally posted by Prtybrwneye_z Prtybrwneye_z wrote:

I'm sure it is a difficulty decision for parents to make, especially when one day their healthy child with so much promise was waking around fine and the next doctors are telling them there is no hope

The right to die debate has always been controversial. They kept Terri Schiavo alive via feeding tubes etc for years...


Yes, but the Terri Schiavo case was different. THEY did not keep her alive for years ... it was a conflict between the husband and the parents.

The husband petitioned to have the feeding tubes removed and just let her die as she has severe brain damage but the parents fought ... so they went back and forth with the courts always overturning the last decision.

In this case - it's the parents alone that say they want her on life support indefinitely. I think that is cruel.
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CryCry Very sad
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Relatives seek extended care for brain-dead California girl

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This undated photo provided by the McMath family and Omari Sealey shows Jahi McMath. McMath remains on life support at Children's Hospital in Oakland, Calif. nearly a week after doctors declared her brain dead, following a supposedly routine tonsillectomy.

By Laila Kearney, Reuters

SAN FRANCISCO — Relatives of a California girl declared brain dead after complications from a tonsillectomy want her moved to a long-term care facility, but face resistance from the hospital where she is due to be disconnected from a breathing machine on Monday.

The family of 13-year-old Jahi McMath, who has been without brain function and on a ventilator for two weeks at Children's Hospital in Oakland, Calif., said they had found an extended-care center willing to take the girl on an indefinite basis, hospital officials said on Friday.

But the center will not accept Jahi unless she has surgically implanted ports for breathing and feeding tubes placed in her body before the transfer, family attorney Christopher Dolan said on Thursday. He declined to name the facility.

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Children's Hospital has agreed to allow Jahi to be moved, but has declined to perform additional procedures on her, hospital spokesman Sam Singer said on Friday.


The family would be required to find an outside physician to implant tracheotomy and gastric tubes in the girl and supply lawful transportation services for her, Singer said. Hospital officials also would need to know the name of the facility taking Jahi, but that information had not been provided, he added.

Children's Hospital's chief of pediatric medicine, Dr. David Durand, said in a statement that the hospital "does not believe that performing surgical procedures on the body of a deceased person is an appropriate medical practice."

Dolan could not be reached for comment on Friday, but was quoted in local media as saying the family was looking at various legal options, including seeking federal court intervention in the case.

"They (Children's Hospital) don't want the attention that's going on over there, so just help us to get her out of there," Jahi's mother, Nailah Winkfield, told CNN on Friday.

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Nailah Winkfield, mother of Jahi McMath, sits with her husband, Martin Winkfield, while attending a court hearing on Dec. 23, to discuss the treatment of 13-year-old daughter Jahi McMath. Jahi remains on a ventilator at Children's Hospital Oakland, Calif. after suffering tragic complications during surgery.

"I would probably need my child's heart to stop to show me that she was dead," Winkfield said. "Her heart was still beating, so there's still life there."

According to medical experts, Jahi's lungs and heart are only continuing to function artificially because of air being forced in and out of her body by the ventilator, without which her breathing and heartbeat would cease. Unlike an individual in a coma or a vegetative state, Jahi lacks any brain activity whatsoever, rendering her unable to breathe on her own, doctors said.

Jahi was admitted to the hospital on Dec. 9 for surgery to remove her tonsils as a means of treating her sleep apnea. Shortly after the procedure, she began to bleed severely, suffered a heart attack and brain swelling, Dolan said. Hospital officials declared her brain dead on Dec. 12.

The girl's family, who has expressed hope that Jahi might recover despite her diagnosis, won a restraining order on Monday barring the hospital from removing her from a ventilator.

On Tuesday, following court testimony by two pediatric neurologists that Jahi was beyond recovery, Alameda County Superior Court Judge Evelio Grillo denied a request by relatives to extend his restraining order, which prohibits the hospital from taking her off the breathing machine without the family's consent before Monday at 5 p.m. local time.

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i understand them not wanting to let her go and hoping for a miracle.
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i wonder  how much it costs to keep her alive forever.. seems like insurance would only pay for it for so long. 

i think they should just let her go.. have miracles happened to ppl brain dead (not a coma) for 2 weeks? 
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Originally posted by coconess coconess wrote:

have miracles happened to ppl brain dead (not a coma) for 2 weeks? 


No. But a few people I know make me believe it may be possible.

Prayers for her family.
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Originally posted by coconess coconess wrote:

i wonder  how much it costs to keep her alive forever.. seems like insurance would only pay for it for so long. 

i think they should just let her go.. have miracles happened to ppl brain dead (not a coma) for 2 weeks? 


i just read this article on a guy that woke up after a day or two of the doctors saying there was no brain activity and no blood flowing to the brain:

http://www.today.com/id/23775873#.Ur8TcbSRKg1


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Originally posted by tatee tatee wrote:

i just read this article on a guy that woke up after a day or two of the doctors saying there was no brain activity and no blood flowing to the brain:

http://www.today.com/id/23775873#.Ur8TcbSRKg1




I hope that happens for this child.
but I think the doctors misdiagnosed the young man in the video.
thank god for nurses!
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they need the surgeon and the anaesthetist investigated

my gut instinct is that someone fuccked up and gave her the wrong meds
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